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InvisibleShea25
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Re: Trich question [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11979624 - 02/07/10 01:25 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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noobieshroomie said:
that was after i washed my hands too
just goes to show you why its good to wear gloves when doing agar work:thumbup:

  -noobie-




Yep its true. After seeing your nail beds under a microscope after washing them you will want to ware gloves


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Re: Trich question [Re: Shea25]
    #11979630 - 02/07/10 01:26 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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Kysmoker said:
Since this questions been semi-answered, mind if I ask one? Its about trich and I dont feel like making another post.

I have one jar out of 45 that has shown a small green/bluish dot about 2cm in diameter. I took it away from the rest of my jars because im about 99% sure thats a contam. Is their any harm in letting it grow though? I wana see how this contam works, how quick it is, just study it a bit so I understand how they act a bit more.

Is this risky? Its still inside the jar, sealed up with a dry verm barrier. Its at the innoc point, so apparently it somehow got in when I inoculated (though its near the bottom of the jar).

Im just glad its one jar and not more, atleast for now >.>

P.S sorry for the thread jack, if you want me to delete my post just ask.




If you really want to study it then sure go a head its no prob. One tip thoe elastic band a coffee filter or 2 over the top of the jar. It will be contained and safe to study :thumbup:




No way.  Toss it.  Trying to stop contaminant spores with coffee filters is like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence.  Even with the best synthetic filter disks, I've accidentally missed contaminated jars, and all the surrounding jars come down with trich too.  Filters might stop 99.99% of the contaminant spores, but .001% of a few billion is a lot of spores to have floating around.
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Re: Trich question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11979664 - 02/07/10 01:34 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
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Shea25 said:
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Kysmoker said:
Since this questions been semi-answered, mind if I ask one? Its about trich and I dont feel like making another post.

I have one jar out of 45 that has shown a small green/bluish dot about 2cm in diameter. I took it away from the rest of my jars because im about 99% sure thats a contam. Is their any harm in letting it grow though? I wana see how this contam works, how quick it is, just study it a bit so I understand how they act a bit more.

Is this risky? Its still inside the jar, sealed up with a dry verm barrier. Its at the innoc point, so apparently it somehow got in when I inoculated (though its near the bottom of the jar).

Im just glad its one jar and not more, atleast for now >.>

P.S sorry for the thread jack, if you want me to delete my post just ask.




If you really want to study it then sure go a head its no prob. One tip thoe elastic band a coffee filter or 2 over the top of the jar. It will be contained and safe to study :thumbup:




No way.  Toss it.  Trying to stop contaminant spores with coffee filters is like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence.  Even with the best synthetic filter disks, I've accidentally missed contaminated jars, and all the surrounding jars come down with trich too.  Filters might stop 99.99% of the contaminant spores, but .001% of a few billion is a lot of spores to have floating around.
RR




No offense but I have had my fair share of contaminated jars in my grow areas. Most with filtered lids and or a dry verm barrier. I have left agar dishes out in the open and have fanned them into the open air into my grow area,I still maintain a low contam rate and mold spore count. I can see the fact that having a contamed vessel in the grow area can be bad if not contained right. But to want to study it is a viable option. I have seen no proof that keeping a jar around for a few extra days will greatly impact your chances of contams if one wants to study it in a safe manner Filtered/Sealed off. This is just based off my circumstances.

Thoe coffee filters are not the best option, when I first started to make lids with them for LC's I had a near flawless success ratio. Tyvek is much better suited thats for sure :thumbup:

Im not one to advocate keeping moldy or contamed shit around the house. But if you want to study it, keep it in a sealed container, that is what I should have said from the start. I would use coffee filter's or tyvek  and then put it in a baggie as well.

Not many people want to study contams and I can see why. But doing so can be beneficial in a safe manner. Personally I dont keep contamed things around long anymore. I have had my experiences with them

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Filters might stop 99.99% of the contaminant spores, but .001% of a few billion is a lot of spores to have floating around.




True there are also billions when you open your door to get into your house. or open a window or turn on the heat in your house 

Bottom line is that we should be accepting if people want to study contams its a good thing to know and study as long as its in a safe manner.:thumbup: Personally having a contamed jar here and there as long as there is a filtered and contained has not been detrimental to my grow area based off test's done with agar,

Opening a contamed jar and observing one in a filtered/sealed are two different scenarios.

As for petri dishes if one ones to study that way micropore tape around the dish and seal it off in a plastic baggie

Im not really looking for an argument I just think its perfectily fine for people to want to observe a contam. As long as its is in a safe manner .

Theres no need to discourage people from learning about contams look at noobieshroom he has some sweet pictures/pictures showing how dirty hands can be even after being washed. Should we scrutinize him for even having those plates around ? No it can be helpful.

Key words SEAL off the contam'd plate/jar something I should have been more clear on if you want to study it


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Re: Trich question [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11979671 - 02/07/10 01:36 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
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Shea25 said:
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Kysmoker said:
Since this questions been semi-answered, mind if I ask one? Its about trich and I dont feel like making another post.

I have one jar out of 45 that has shown a small green/bluish dot about 2cm in diameter. I took it away from the rest of my jars because im about 99% sure thats a contam. Is their any harm in letting it grow though? I wana see how this contam works, how quick it is, just study it a bit so I understand how they act a bit more.

Is this risky? Its still inside the jar, sealed up with a dry verm barrier. Its at the innoc point, so apparently it somehow got in when I inoculated (though its near the bottom of the jar).

Im just glad its one jar and not more, atleast for now >.>

P.S sorry for the thread jack, if you want me to delete my post just ask.




If you really want to study it then sure go a head its no prob. One tip thoe elastic band a coffee filter or 2 over the top of the jar. It will be contained and safe to study :thumbup:




No way.  Toss it.  Trying to stop contaminant spores with coffee filters is like trying to stop a mosquito with a chain link fence.  Even with the best synthetic filter disks, I've accidentally missed contaminated jars, and all the surrounding jars come down with trich too.  Filters might stop 99.99% of the contaminant spores, but .001% of a few billion is a lot of spores to have floating around.
RR




If it gets any bigger or shows progression I will, right now its just stayed that small spot for 24 hours or so. Really confusing me =P

EDIT: I covered it with foil ducktaped on about 30 minutes ago. If it gets through that ill be impressed.


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Re: Trich question [Re: Kysmoker]
    #11979714 - 02/07/10 01:50 AM (14 years, 12 days ago)

Yea what I should have said said is use coffee filters and seal it off:thumbup:


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