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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: dblaney]
    #4134951 - 05/04/05 11:32 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

pretty interesting thread. glad it was brought back so i could give it a read.


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: 33L]
    #4134982 - 05/04/05 11:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

great timing, just read all 7 pages of the thread, what was the outcome of this research?


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: randomdude123456]
    #4146356 - 05/07/05 02:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I tried staring at that animation, and it would only spin in one direction. then I stared harder at it and I saw two designs on one sphere spinning in opposite directions...

This was a cool thread, but unfortunately the best trip reports never get finished, like the "A very long walk through nature" thread.

I'm actually thinking about getting a Ph.D in neuroscience and do studies of brainwaves and consciousness. My dream would be to perform psychedelic studies, probably hook up with MAPS or something. Hopefully I could be allowed to grow my own mushrooms legally in an attempt to make a potent strain of shrooms that could be used as a standard way to manufacture psilocybin for studies.

I guess I gotta get done with my general education requirements first.. LOL! A boy can dream can't he?


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: ykk]
    #4146595 - 05/07/05 03:20 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

I think if you keep letting yourself feel nervous about it you might have an upsetting trip. I have always had partially-bad trips when there's something on my mind I feel uncomfortable about.

Maybe let the overseers of the experiment know that you are somewhat nervous and see if they can maybe let you get used to the surroundings of the place a bit before you even take the pill. Or get there an hour early to just hang around and try to calm yourself, talk to the people that will be helping you through this, i think that will help you become most comfortable with this. Getting to know them a little better and making sure you feel they can take care of you is very important for you to stay happy.

You did say you'd post the dosages later, but if they are low enough, you might not have to worry about such loss of reality or bodily control that you would start to panic. The higher the dose, the more reality falters, your body becomes less comfortable and out of your control, etc. Though maybe these effects will be less with the pure psilocybin pills.

Valium is also a viable option. I've heard many a trip has needed a downer (my friend had to knock herself out with trazedone) to stop some impending freak-out.

Basically, I highly advise to know EXACTLY what is going on, educate yourself as much as possible on what you will be doing, who's going to be there, what dosage etc., ANYTHING you can learn will help you feel more in control when you actually start to lose control. It will help to get yourself out of a bad trip or a cycle in which you feel uncomfortable if you can remind yourself of things you know you know and have learned before because of researching and finding out exactly what is happening at all times during your test period.

Enjoy!


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: ykk]
    #4147052 - 05/07/05 04:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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ykk said:

oh, funnily enough some think this is all made up, i dunno, maybe a link to the guys website who was involved in this study will make it more believable?





The published study would suffice for me. Ask the investigator to provide you with the reference when the study is finally published.


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: ykk]
    #4147362 - 05/07/05 05:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Wow man, being a psychedelic test subject is my dream job, congrats!  :thumbup: :laugh: :tripping:


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4149741 - 05/08/05 12:05 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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This was a cool thread, but unfortunately the best trip reports never get finished, like the "A very long walk through nature" thread.




well, i did finish the main trip on day one. the mild version truly was mild. an interesting thing to note might be that my soul felt just as rejuvinated after the mild "trip" as opposed to the more strenuous first trip. makes you think about the usefulness of really small doses for therapeutic purposes. as in: gentle rewiring, instead of brute-force with prozac or whatever it may be. anywho:

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I'm actually thinking about getting a Ph.D in neuroscience and do studies of brainwaves and consciousness. My dream would be to perform psychedelic studies, probably hook up with MAPS or something. Hopefully I could be allowed to grow my own mushrooms legally in an attempt to make a potent strain of shrooms that could be used as a standard way to manufacture psilocybin for studies.





right on, i'm studying psychology right now and will specialize in neuroscience/neuropsychology as well. that stuff can be so damn interesting that it blows your mind, which is irony as far as i'm concerned.
it's also mindblowing how little we know about the brain, eventhough to me, it seems like it would be the very fundamental base of knowledge about the world/everything/nothing.

mbassi: thanks for the concerns and tips, but the experiment happened last year. i just felt like making amends by kinda rounding the thread up, answering questions and just generally poking around the shroomery more often.

badchad: i'm emailing her right now. curious as well.

cheers


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: ykk]
    #4166081 - 05/12/05 01:10 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Great reports!

Is this research still going on? Are you just waiting for another session?


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! *DELETED* [Re: mecreateme]
    #4166523 - 05/12/05 03:39 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: KahSol]
    #4168682 - 05/13/05 12:11 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

they'll do THC studies if they're aimed at finding the harmful effects of cannabis use, but if they bill them as research for the benefits, they are much less likely to receive grant funding.  there was an article on this once about a doctor who did a study who was rejected at first, then he just reworded the title and a made a few minor adjustments to the overview and it was given the OK.


go figure  :rolleyes:

sweet report ykk, glad someone decided to bump this thread up, had me reading for a good hour!  very cool, interesting stuff.  I hope they made some discoveries too.


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: KahSol]
    #4169925 - 05/13/05 09:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

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KahSol said:

Do they even do studys in the U.S. with THC or other drugs anymore?
Or has that all been pretty much outlawed?




Yes, there is still ample research going on, although it's not always aimed at studying the effects of a drug in humans. Go to pubmed and search with the keyword: "hallucinogens". Then click the tab that says "limits" and click the drop down menu under "publication types" to where it says: "clinical trial" and you'll get a load of hits.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

Osmond, H.  Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436


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Re: I'm gonna be test-subject in psilocybin-research! [Re: badchad]
    #4298547 - 06/15/05 11:27 AM (16 years, 9 days ago)

Im just interested, have you used many psychedelics since the test? i remember you mentioning that you had used mushies before the test, but not for a while...


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