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OfflineHopanDubMan
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Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip
    #11957660 - 02/03/10 08:50 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Ok so recently I was having a discussion with a friend about what makes a bad trip and what makes a trip difficult. I think there IS a fine line between the two and here is why I think so.

A bad trip is just a very very evil and horrible experience. Everything is spiraling out of control and insanity has seemingly taken over your brain for the time being. Everything is negative, it is hard to get out of a supreme bad trip.

A difficult trip is a trip caused by mis-perception of something neutral (an object, something a friend said that was not meant to be negative or cause bad vibes, animals, etc.) that suddenly confuses your mind. You have trouble gathering your thoughts and you might even start questioning your sanity, at least thats what always happens to me when I get into difficult tripping situations.

Anyways. Lets discuss your opinions on the difference between bad trips and difficult ones, if you think there are any differences.


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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: HopanDubMan]
    #11957671 - 02/03/10 08:51 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

Bad trips are horrible, but its always darkest before the dawn.


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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: The Psychonaut]
    #11957914 - 02/03/10 09:28 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

For me a bad trip is a difficult trip.

I've had a handful of incredibly hellish experiences, mostly in my inexperienced days. But looking back they were in many ways just as valuable if not more than my positive or "good" trips.

The only way I would consider a trip truly bad is if someone died, got seriously injured, or arrested.

Loosing your mind and spending a night in uncontrolable fear and insanity can be very difficult at the time, but it eventually ends and your left with a truly unique experience that in many ways makes you stronger.

So unless you get arrest or someone dies, I personally wouldn't go throwing the term bad trip around.


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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: Subconscious]
    #11957920 - 02/03/10 09:29 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

^^ I get where you are coming from. I have yet to experience a completely horrible nightmare trip. But..it might happen soon. You never know.


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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: HopanDubMan]
    #11958069 - 02/03/10 09:51 PM (14 years, 15 days ago)

A bad trip is a totally hellish experience in which negative vibes are present (for me at least). While a difficult trip is one in which you question your sanity and other things of that nature but it isn't spent in fear. I recently had a difficult trip having to talk a friend down somewhat while on 2 and 1/2 of some very potent tabs. I sat there thinking about what was going on while time stood still and I had a friend who looked like death was staring him in the face. I would say it was a rather difficult trip with the weird thoughts going through my head but not a bad trip.


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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: xxkillmanjaro]
    #11975985 - 02/06/10 03:05 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

I was thinking of starting a new thread on this topic, but this one hits on some topics I wanted to discuss.

So, what is a bad trip for you all? I never thought I could have one until a few days ago - I now respect the state I am in before gulping down any hallucinogens. Reviewing this thread however has me believing I had a difficult trip rather than a bad one. This last trip was on morning glory seeds, but it was VERY similar to one I had on shrooms. Basically I had zero visuals (which I'll admit, for better or for worse, is why I adore shrooms) and almost every bad thought was brought forth. It wasn't scary per se, just very annoying and heartbreaking - thinking about losing family and how I wish I was with them and not at college, losing my sanity, etc. My thoughts were circuitous and I felt trapped within my own mind. I would have done anything to fall asleep, but LSA is a bitch when it comes to keeping the mind active. I would squirm around in bed, gnaw on my glasses..anything to keep me occupied through that shit.

I decided I wanted to try a full day trip yesterday, so I got up in the morning and downed the seeds. The effects (nausea, pupil dilation) where noticeable, but I mainly felt like crap and got worn out pretty fast. My difficult shroom trip happened late at night before going to bed. From this, I drew two conclusions for myself: don't trip right when I get up because the mind is perhaps too fresh and active, and don't trip before going to sleep because the mind is too tired to entertain the trip for long.

I guess bad trips bring you to your own hell, which is different for every person. I am not religious, so I didn't fear detachment from God or anything of the like. I think my deepest fears are being separated from humanity and my family, be that through death or losing my sanity. I would like to hear others' thoughts on this, and I wish everyone good trips for the rest of their time, because these bad trips absolutely fucking suck. :mad:


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    #11976267 - 02/06/10 03:54 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

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Re: Discussion : Bad Trip vs Difficult Trip [Re: jw2234]
    #11976339 - 02/06/10 04:04 PM (14 years, 12 days ago)

'Bad trip' and 'difficult trip' are just terms. There is no distinction, there are only varying degrees of difficulty. They are subjective terms, it's different for everyone. If I had to make a distinction I would say a bad trip is simply more difficulty than you can handle

I don't see the need to strictly categorise these experiences, it doesn't change anything.


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