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Hacking wireless networks
    #11974253 - 02/06/10 09:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

How could this be done?

I'm a university IT student who studies networks and protocols but have always wondered how to access/hack a WPA secure network. I know it can be done but the methods i have found require Linux and specific wireless cards.

If anyone could help me with this the please feel free to IM, I'm not out to hack a network, just a thirst for knowledge.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11974377 - 02/06/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

There are other programs and tools to help you do something like that on almost any OS, but Linux is the best way. If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems. I mess with those on a near daily basis among many others that are less known.

To start learning about anything related to network security you should be playing with "Backtrack 3" or something similar. It's a free linux distro designed and built with several apps all geared toward breaking or "Testing" security. Including WiFi, which I found it did work well. Backtrack 4 came out about a month ago but I haven't checked it out yet. The nice thing is you can boot it as a live OS from a DVD/CD/USB device and not mess with your PC's actual OS.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: redsreboot]
    #11974596 - 02/06/10 10:55 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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redsreboot said:
If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems.




:thumbup:

someone that knows both windows and linux really well is a pretty good asset to a company. ive been using linux pretty much exclusively for about 6 years. i forget a lot of things about windows. :shrug:

i havent tried Backtrack but if you can install whatever packages they use onto RedHat youd be ahead of the game when looking for work. a lot of places that use linux will be using RedHat.

a buddy of mine passed the RHCE test. he gets calls for job offers all the time now and he never applys for them. its def a good thing to have.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11975898 - 02/06/10 02:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I dont think you can hack a WPA network, at least I am personally unaware of any exploits.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11978608 - 02/06/10 10:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's possible but I honestly don't recall how.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11978708 - 02/06/10 10:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: frith]
    #11980434 - 02/07/10 07:56 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

frith said:
Quote:

redsreboot said:
If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems.




:thumbup:

someone that knows both windows and linux really well is a pretty good asset to a company. ive been using linux pretty much exclusively for about 6 years. i forget a lot of things about windows. :shrug:

i havent tried Backtrack but if you can install whatever packages they use onto RedHat youd be ahead of the game when looking for work. a lot of places that use linux will be using RedHat.

a buddy of mine passed the RHCE test. he gets calls for job offers all the time now and he never applys for them. its def a good thing to have.




In my experience the best IT guys know all the platforms while the IT guys that only know windows are the worst and most impossible people to deal with regarding compatibility and efficiency.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11980801 - 02/07/10 10:23 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

aircrack is a suite of wireless cracking utilities

cracking WEP is very easy with it

cracking WPA isnt hard either, but requires a dictionary based attack

check out the backtrack livecd if you dont have a full linux installation


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: insectvhore]
    #11980937 - 02/07/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hi there Mushie_Man,
Glad to see you're interested in this stuff. Wireless cracking isn't too difficult but it's not a 5 minute job either, it's more like a weekend project and can be a lot of fun! You can set up your own wireless network to use WEP and practice on that. :wink: Once you've done it a few times, you'll begin to see how easy it is.

WEP and WPA can both be cracked. insectvhore is correct in saying WEP is easiest. The whole job is much, much easier using a linux distribution. If you're new to linux try a Debian based distribution such as Ubuntu. The program[s] I recommend are the Aircrack-ng suite, you can find tutorials on how to use it online. It has support for many different wireless cards. Kismet is also VERY useful - it's the best wireless network discovery tool (for linux only I think)

Alternatively, you could try a BackTrack distribution as they come with these tools pre-installed. However, I've tried both and found Ubuntu to be more agreeable with my hardware. I have some obscure and awkward wireless card but I still managed to get the aircrack-ng suite working with it.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Libertin]
    #11984488 - 02/07/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So is the only exploit a dictionary based attack?  Thats not really considered an exploit, though it might work on some networks.  Personally I have a 16-24 character sequence of random letters, numbers and punctuation.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11984536 - 02/07/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i use a generated password from here:
https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

its pretty much impossible to crack these.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11984809 - 02/07/10 09:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

to crack wpa, you first capture the authentication packet of a legitimate user, that packet will have the encryption key, then you need to crack the key from that packet via a bruteforce type method.

so yes if you have a very long unusual key, then it is unlikely to get cracked


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: insectvhore]
    #11988553 - 02/08/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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insectvhore said:
aircrack is a suite of wireless cracking utilities

cracking WEP is very easy with it

cracking WPA isnt hard either, but requires a dictionary based attack

check out the backtrack livecd if you dont have a full linux installation




4 Final is out now!


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #11994238 - 02/09/10 09:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OK, thanks for the help. I think I'm going to get a Backtrack live CD and have a play with that, iv used Linux before which is why i know I'm going to have to get my head around that before i even begin start to figure the cracking stage.

Although i was under the impression that when using air-crack or similar software u require a certain type of network card, one which has a certain mode. I have read alot into this in the past, so i know the basics of what may be involved.

It may be easy to crack a WEP network, but that's when you know how lol. I might try find some Ebooks because i know there a few good ones out there, but my little knowledge of Linux puts things back.

If anyone has the time to IM a simple walkthough, that would be MUCH appreciated. I feel this is a project that is worth putting in the time, i could learn alot from this.

I'm off to find some e-books and download Backtrack anyways, if nothing, its still worth a play with.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11997524 - 02/09/10 06:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wifi Box Network Unlocker for 802.11G (USB)

hxxp://www.ipmart.com/main/product/Wifi,Box,Network,Unlocker,for,802,11G,USB,,143169.php?prod=143169


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: 5150]
    #11999045 - 02/09/10 10:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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5150 said:
Wifi Box Network Unlocker for 802.11G (USB)

http://www.ipmart.com/main/product/Wifi,Box,Network,Unlocker,for,802,11G,USB,,143169.php?prod=143169




^^ $70


http://www.ubuntu.com

^^ FREE



tough choice...


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: frith]
    #12016709 - 02/12/10 03:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Plus, nothing compares to watching data fly across the terminal.
It's so purrty.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12019043 - 02/12/10 10:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

airdump requires others to be using the network, someone needs to be using the wireless network in order for you to get it to work.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: snoot]
    #12029873 - 02/14/10 07:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

:confused:
I thought that was only for WPA so you can get the handshake.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12031755 - 02/15/10 01:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

hardware permitting, you can inject packets to speed things along when the network is not in use.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: sherm]
    #12032186 - 02/15/10 05:06 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Agreed. Packet injection for WEP (no active clients necessary), client deauthentication for WPA (active client essential).


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Libertin]
    #12032730 - 02/15/10 09:27 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

That's what I thought.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12035054 - 02/15/10 04:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

ah your right I forgot about packet injection :boobs: for you sir


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: snoot]
    #12053825 - 02/18/10 12:52 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

snoot said:
airdump requires others to be using the network, someone needs to be using the wireless network in order for you to get it to work.




It certainly does not, you may want to take a look at aircrack-ng's fake authentication attack.  Once fake authenticated you can then inject packets into the network using one of the various attacks (Packetforge/Fragmentation).

BackTrack is an incredible suite of tools available to the those interested in Pentesting and Forensic Analysis.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: hoodieninja]
    #12116060 - 02/28/10 07:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Search for a tutorial on BackTrack 3.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: mirrors]
    #12123545 - 03/01/10 08:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

CUDA


nuff said


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: mycoprog]
    #12123850 - 03/01/10 09:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

:dudewtf:


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12126479 - 03/02/10 09:08 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I got BackTrack 3, the final relase and USB. The final would not boot on my laptop, so i tryed the USB, same problem, it hangs on the boot screen. So i figured i would try it on my desktop PC, booted fine.

Although now, for this is where my lack on linux really shoots me in the foot. My desktop PC only has a Belkin 54g USB wireless adapter (i dont even know if this will be capable of injecting packets or whatnot) but even so, i have no idea how to configure this, so i cant even connect to my own WiFi let alone anyone elses.

I suppose i should get reading.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #12128654 - 03/02/10 03:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

(try 4 on yur laptop)
((if it dont work, try a diff. window manager))


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12128904 - 03/02/10 04:32 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

different window manager shouldnt make a difference..

ive never used Backtrack. it looks like KDE to me. there is a thing in System Settings to manage wifi connections.. there is probably a little applet in the kicker panel at the bottom. cant be more specific.. never got into the 3.x versions.

if you open a terminal (aka Konsole) and run ifconfig or iwconfig it will show if your wifi card has been detected and working.

eth0 is your wired connection. the name for the wifi card could be a few different things, wlan0, ath0.. there are some more i cant remember..

if you dont see anything like that you can run lspci. it should say something in there about wifi.. might say belkin specifically.. might not. if you dont see or know what youre looking at then just post it in here.. someone will be able to dissect it.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #12222851 - 03/18/10 05:37 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

there's a miniweb series kevin rose came out with a few years back where he shows you how to do all this w/knoppix std (another linux distro from like 2004 though mebbe outdated at this point)

http://revision3.com/thebroken

believe it's episode 1 where they do the wireless network shit, there's also an amusing clip on building potato guns


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: ShiftedAbsurdity]
    #12227136 - 03/18/10 08:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

RTFM! :laugh:


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: retarrrd]
    #12301366 - 03/30/10 07:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

X is most likely configured wrong for you computer
(it's realy hard to reconfigure a USB based distro )
so you will need to work from the command line
this is how to do that
at the boot prompt type "linux single" this will boot in to the command line single user mode
once you log in type "init 3" this is a soft restart and will start multi user mode and bring up networking
in this mode you can use up to 6 command shells by hitting ctrl+F(2 to 6)and switch between them with crtl+F( 1 to 6 depending on witch shell you want to go back to )
or crtl+(left arrow or right arrow)
you may be able to copy and past in this mode by dragging with the left mouse button
and paste with a right click BUT not all distros have this 
there are 5 places to look for documentation
the command man (the command you want to look up)
the command info look for the command you want to look up in the menu
/usr/doc/Linux-HOWTOs
/usr/doc/Linux-FAQs 
/usr/doc/(the name of the software you want to know about )
the easiest way to explore the file system is with the command "mc"


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #12332432 - 04/04/10 10:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Mushie_Man said:
How could this be done?

I'm a university IT student who studies networks and protocols but have always wondered how to access/hack a WPA secure network. I know it can be done but the methods i have found require Linux and specific wireless cards.

If anyone could help me with this the please feel free to IM, I'm not out to hack a network, just a thirst for knowledge.




Well I can tell you, that not all cards or more like the wireless chips on all cards support Backtrack3's airmon functions. A USB netgear WG111v2 works very well. The version 3 does not work from what I've heard. You can find the version 2 on ebay.

The most popular method of cracking WPA is de-authenticating a user from a router or access point then capturing the handshake when the user re-authenticates. Backtrack3 then uses basically a text file with a list of words and tries every one till it matches.

The makers of Backtrack3 supposedly found a way to crack WPA without the dictionary list text file.This is useful when the network admin was smart enough to use combo of numbers and letters.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #12346491 - 04/07/10 01:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Mushie_Man said:
How could this be done?

I'm a university who studies networks and protocols but have always wondered how to access/hack a WPA secure network. I know it can be done but the methods i have found require Linux and specific wireless cards.

If anyone could help me with this the please feel free to IM, I'm not out to hack a network, just a thirst for knowledge.




how can you be an "IT student" with out already having linux installed

if your serous about this part "just a thirst for knowledge." install linux
then you can start quenching that thirst in ways you can't even dream of with windoze
nobody but bill gates could afford the tool set that comes with all non noob distros on windoze


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