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InvisibleMushie_Man
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Hacking wireless networks
    #11974253 - 02/06/10 09:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

How could this be done?

I'm a university IT student who studies networks and protocols but have always wondered how to access/hack a WPA secure network. I know it can be done but the methods i have found require Linux and specific wireless cards.

If anyone could help me with this the please feel free to IM, I'm not out to hack a network, just a thirst for knowledge.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11974377 - 02/06/10 10:05 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

There are other programs and tools to help you do something like that on almost any OS, but Linux is the best way. If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems. I mess with those on a near daily basis among many others that are less known.

To start learning about anything related to network security you should be playing with "Backtrack 3" or something similar. It's a free linux distro designed and built with several apps all geared toward breaking or "Testing" security. Including WiFi, which I found it did work well. Backtrack 4 came out about a month ago but I haven't checked it out yet. The nice thing is you can boot it as a live OS from a DVD/CD/USB device and not mess with your PC's actual OS.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: redsreboot]
    #11974596 - 02/06/10 10:55 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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redsreboot said:
If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems.




:thumbup:

someone that knows both windows and linux really well is a pretty good asset to a company. ive been using linux pretty much exclusively for about 6 years. i forget a lot of things about windows. :shrug:

i havent tried Backtrack but if you can install whatever packages they use onto RedHat youd be ahead of the game when looking for work. a lot of places that use linux will be using RedHat.

a buddy of mine passed the RHCE test. he gets calls for job offers all the time now and he never applys for them. its def a good thing to have.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11975898 - 02/06/10 02:53 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I dont think you can hack a WPA network, at least I am personally unaware of any exploits.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11978608 - 02/06/10 10:09 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's possible but I honestly don't recall how.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11978708 - 02/06/10 10:26 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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How could this be done?







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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: frith]
    #11980434 - 02/07/10 07:56 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

frith said:
Quote:

redsreboot said:
If you are seriously getting into networking then you had better get used to linux, unix, solaris, and cisco operating systems.




:thumbup:

someone that knows both windows and linux really well is a pretty good asset to a company. ive been using linux pretty much exclusively for about 6 years. i forget a lot of things about windows. :shrug:

i havent tried Backtrack but if you can install whatever packages they use onto RedHat youd be ahead of the game when looking for work. a lot of places that use linux will be using RedHat.

a buddy of mine passed the RHCE test. he gets calls for job offers all the time now and he never applys for them. its def a good thing to have.




In my experience the best IT guys know all the platforms while the IT guys that only know windows are the worst and most impossible people to deal with regarding compatibility and efficiency.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11980801 - 02/07/10 10:23 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

aircrack is a suite of wireless cracking utilities

cracking WEP is very easy with it

cracking WPA isnt hard either, but requires a dictionary based attack

check out the backtrack livecd if you dont have a full linux installation


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: insectvhore]
    #11980937 - 02/07/10 10:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hi there Mushie_Man,
Glad to see you're interested in this stuff. Wireless cracking isn't too difficult but it's not a 5 minute job either, it's more like a weekend project and can be a lot of fun! You can set up your own wireless network to use WEP and practice on that. :wink: Once you've done it a few times, you'll begin to see how easy it is.

WEP and WPA can both be cracked. insectvhore is correct in saying WEP is easiest. The whole job is much, much easier using a linux distribution. If you're new to linux try a Debian based distribution such as Ubuntu. The program[s] I recommend are the Aircrack-ng suite, you can find tutorials on how to use it online. It has support for many different wireless cards. Kismet is also VERY useful - it's the best wireless network discovery tool (for linux only I think)

Alternatively, you could try a BackTrack distribution as they come with these tools pre-installed. However, I've tried both and found Ubuntu to be more agreeable with my hardware. I have some obscure and awkward wireless card but I still managed to get the aircrack-ng suite working with it.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Libertin]
    #11984488 - 02/07/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

So is the only exploit a dictionary based attack?  Thats not really considered an exploit, though it might work on some networks.  Personally I have a 16-24 character sequence of random letters, numbers and punctuation.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11984536 - 02/07/10 08:33 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i use a generated password from here:
https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm

its pretty much impossible to crack these.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Chespirito]
    #11984809 - 02/07/10 09:25 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

to crack wpa, you first capture the authentication packet of a legitimate user, that packet will have the encryption key, then you need to crack the key from that packet via a bruteforce type method.

so yes if you have a very long unusual key, then it is unlikely to get cracked


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: insectvhore]
    #11988553 - 02/08/10 03:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

insectvhore said:
aircrack is a suite of wireless cracking utilities

cracking WEP is very easy with it

cracking WPA isnt hard either, but requires a dictionary based attack

check out the backtrack livecd if you dont have a full linux installation




4 Final is out now!


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InvisibleMushie_Man
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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #11994238 - 02/09/10 09:46 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

OK, thanks for the help. I think I'm going to get a Backtrack live CD and have a play with that, iv used Linux before which is why i know I'm going to have to get my head around that before i even begin start to figure the cracking stage.

Although i was under the impression that when using air-crack or similar software u require a certain type of network card, one which has a certain mode. I have read alot into this in the past, so i know the basics of what may be involved.

It may be easy to crack a WEP network, but that's when you know how lol. I might try find some Ebooks because i know there a few good ones out there, but my little knowledge of Linux puts things back.

If anyone has the time to IM a simple walkthough, that would be MUCH appreciated. I feel this is a project that is worth putting in the time, i could learn alot from this.

I'm off to find some e-books and download Backtrack anyways, if nothing, its still worth a play with.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Mushie_Man]
    #11997524 - 02/09/10 06:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Wifi Box Network Unlocker for 802.11G (USB)

hxxp://www.ipmart.com/main/product/Wifi,Box,Network,Unlocker,for,802,11G,USB,,143169.php?prod=143169


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: 5150]
    #11999045 - 02/09/10 10:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

5150 said:
Wifi Box Network Unlocker for 802.11G (USB)

http://www.ipmart.com/main/product/Wifi,Box,Network,Unlocker,for,802,11G,USB,,143169.php?prod=143169




^^ $70


http://www.ubuntu.com

^^ FREE



tough choice...


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: frith]
    #12016709 - 02/12/10 03:45 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Plus, nothing compares to watching data fly across the terminal.
It's so purrty.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12019043 - 02/12/10 10:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

airdump requires others to be using the network, someone needs to be using the wireless network in order for you to get it to work.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: snoot]
    #12029873 - 02/14/10 07:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

:confused:
I thought that was only for WPA so you can get the handshake.


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Re: Hacking wireless networks [Re: Tripp420]
    #12031755 - 02/15/10 01:02 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

hardware permitting, you can inject packets to speed things along when the network is not in use.


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