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Offline3eyedgod
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Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness
    #1197088 - 01/07/03 09:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Think of all of existance for a moment as an eternally burning point of light in a black sea of nothingness that extends for infinity. All the light can see is darkness, and all the darkness can see is light.

Duality: There is a small point of light in the nothingness. One day the light decides that it will find the end of the darkness and it begins to grow. While at the same time the darkness decides it will find the core of the light and it begins creeping in between the rays of light. This goes on for all of eternity, the light piercing through the darkness with it's forceful rays, and the darkness creeping close to the core of the light with each opening between the rays.

Oneness: One day the light realizes that it is the end of the darkness, and the darkness realizes that it is the core of the light. They both realize that they need each other. That in a sense they are each other.

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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1197594 - 01/07/03 12:37 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

There are many colors in the spectrum, but it is all the same light.  :smile: 


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: Adamist]
    #1197614 - 01/07/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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There are many colors in the spectrum, but it is all the same light.  :smile: 




Conversely..... all colors of the spectrum arise from the void, it is all the same darkness


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1197843 - 01/07/03 01:47 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

maybe the spectrum is the scattering of light within darkness and vice versa....


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198319 - 01/07/03 04:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

bump....because my thread deserves to be higher on the list than anything with Benny Hinn or david icke in the name.


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198365 - 01/07/03 05:19 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Duality is the nature of our nature. There is no avoiding it. Check out "The Web That Has No Weaver". It is about chinease medicine and will ROCK your world and make sense out of the duality.....the only explanation that does.....


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: upupup]
    #1198433 - 01/07/03 05:48 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Duality and oneness both make sense to me. They coexist, one cannot be without the other.


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198460 - 01/07/03 05:59 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

yeah duality and oneness exist.. but you're forgetting about this place we're in.. where duality and oneness meet, it creates halfwayilityness!! which is made up by shades of grey


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1198486 - 01/07/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

personally, i believe in a universal trinity/oness, not in the christain sense of father/son/holyspirit, although that is one example that set me thinkin', i believe there is a common ground, a neutral point that has neither the pros nor cons of either of the other to points, e.g. good/evil, and not having the characteristics of either of the other two sides, it is its own. a third part, that connects the others.

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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: deep_umbra]
    #1200034 - 01/08/03 09:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The universe sure is crazy :grin:


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: trippinlizard]
    #1200036 - 01/08/03 09:35 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

But of course!  How could dualism or oneness exist without trinity :cool:


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: upupup]
    #1200081 - 01/08/03 09:47 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Duality is the nature of our nature. There is no avoiding it.




Sure duality exists but what happens when you realise head and tails are part of one coin.


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: phreakyzen]
    #1338335 - 02/26/03 05:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

good catch :wink: . this is my theory about the nature of duality and oness... I think duality is not what is really good for us at all and this is maybe how we come to it when we cross the subject of yin and yang. I think duality and conflict is created when you start looking at it by its seperate sides, only focusing on oneside, thus resulting in a duality with its opposite. when you start to seperate it thats when it becomes a downward spiral. One night i found this to be the answer to everything, all my questions, i dont know what i learned then because ive been tossed so far by the ill side of seeing yin and yang (duality). In the center of these two forces I saw what i would like to think now of or as God. imagine what exists between black and white... the rainbow eh(nm)? when i lookked through the seperation i saw an infinite web, or tree, linking itself back together and through everything. there was something i saw that one night that completely changed me for the rest of my life. the only true realization, the only definate thing ive seen in my life. whatever skeptic there was, i was shot down, all that could be awaited me. you can doubt anything in your life or existance or anything, but that, because once you come to it it folds over itself and proves its own existance by the nature of two opposing forces coming together, seperated only by your perception. and in this place all possibility lies, all of life and death and existance wrapped in the smallest most simple thing imaginable.

thats why i love reading the tao.
just my take i guess.


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1338382 - 02/26/03 05:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

thats a wonderful description


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1338925 - 02/26/03 10:29 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

With out light, there can be no darkness. for darkness can only be without light. But if there was never any light, then darkness doesn't seem to exsist. Good and Evil..Yin and Yang.....there are nuetral parts...aka different colors


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: GrowingVines]
    #1338939 - 02/26/03 10:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

happy, sad.
male, female.
up, down.
yesterday, tomorrow....


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1339111 - 02/27/03 01:21 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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The universe sure is crazy :grin: 


crazy/beautiful  :grin:


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1339158 - 02/27/03 02:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

i like your description 3eyedgod, metaphors are a great way to express such ideas. Human consciousness is inherently dualistic; all of our knowledge and experience in this physical plane of existence is dualistic. There is always the self and other, the knower and the known, thinker and the thought. Of course that doesn't mean that we can't have knowledge of true oneness, but this is different to experiencing it, just as we can imagine what it is like to run when we are standing still.
We can talk about transcending the duality of human consciousness but so long as we are talking or thinking about it we are not doing it, for to attain this transcendence of duality is to extinguish the self that is doing all the thinking.

To have an experience of oneness with all that is is to erase the boundary between the observer and the observed, the self is no longer in existence to bear witness to what is going on, the self is now dissolved without a trace into the undifferentiated all.

I am currently reading up on the ideas of Arthur Schopenhauer in Bryan Magee's 'Confessions of a philosopher', Schopenhauer was incredibly insightful with this sort of thing, definitely worth checking out. as is T.S. Eliot's 'Burnt Norton' a very fine poem on being and nothingness.


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: 3eyedgod]
    #1339973 - 02/27/03 10:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

have you listened to that song yet?  :grin:


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Re: Thoughts on the nature of duality and oneness [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1340025 - 02/27/03 10:18 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanx for all the replys everyone. Posted this a month or so ago, I didn't expect to see this thread again.


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