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Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol
    #11962735 - 02/04/10 03:54 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I have a fairly large foam cooler, holds about 12 .5 pint jars next to eachother, my question is if i can spawn to h poo instead of doing cakes but from the same cooler meaning it wont be cased from a tray but rather the cooler would be the tray. would i need to use perlite I will be opening holes for FAE< will the spawn sub create enough hum so perlite wont be needed or will this just be a waste of time? my last attempt of casing resulted in 5 cased cakes producing about 5 dry gram.. PATHETIC RESULTS.. hopefully someone with exp. will give me thebest advice, thanks all. 

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11962755 - 02/04/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

No perlite needed. You may want to pollyfill some holes in the sides for FAE and put a trash bag down on the bottom before you dump the HP in...



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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11962791 - 02/04/10 04:02 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Might as well upgrade to a rubber maid tub... The deeper the substrate the bigger the mushrooms... Usually, if all other variables are accounted for...



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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11962805 - 02/04/10 04:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

yes that will work
you are basically making a monotub from a cooler

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #11962875 - 02/04/10 04:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I have a tupper BUT not stealthy enough>> so why the trash bag whats the purpose?


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11962948 - 02/04/10 04:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Get a plastic tub that fits inside, don't ruin your cooler.
Then mist and fan as needed.


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11962957 - 02/04/10 04:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

It keeps the water in the air that is inevitably going to condensate and run down the sides of your FC from touching your substrate. So curl the ends so that all water rolling down will fall behind the plastic and not pool in the plastic making your substrate soggy and overly water logged.


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Doc_T]
    #11962968 - 02/04/10 04:31 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

i can get 100's of coolers that wont be a problem, a tray will just take up space, why the need to use a black garbage bag? and what would be the best H poo tek for this idea?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11962984 - 02/04/10 04:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ohh ok gotcha, will spawning totally kick cakes ass? because i will be spawning with 11 cakes.. ans will i still be opening small holes around the cooler for FAE?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11962999 - 02/04/10 04:36 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Black trash bags also block ling witch can cause "fat asses". Its when your shroomies just kinda go blah.. They grow but all f'd up and fat or knotty and they stay pretty small in this state of blah... Just not an aesthetically pleasing mushroom atall.



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Veruca Salt: Snozzberries? Who ever heard of a snozzberry?

Willy Wonka: *We* are the music makers... and *we* are the dreamers of dreams


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11963016 - 02/04/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The bags block light, sorry...


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11963048 - 02/04/10 04:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

so what should I do? \i dont think it would be blocking too much light if its just on the sides... whata you think?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11963085 - 02/04/10 04:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

The point of the black bag is to keep light off the sides of the substrate so it focuses its energy in fruiting up, the best way. I cant "tell" you what to do... See how long i've been a member on the shroomery, no offense but do some research. There is a great post search engine that can direct to whatever it is you may need to find out...



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Veruca Salt: Snozzberries? Who ever heard of a snozzberry?

Willy Wonka: *We* are the music makers... and *we* are the dreamers of dreams


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11963100 - 02/04/10 04:53 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

he doesnt' have to have a black trashbag since his foam cooler is not transparent he wont have to worry about sidepinning really....

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: biologys]
    #11963116 - 02/04/10 04:55 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yep your right. I was just trying to nudge him in the Rubbermaid direction... :grin:


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Veruca Salt: Snozzberries? Who ever heard of a snozzberry?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11963178 - 02/04/10 05:06 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

definitely use a bag. it helps moderate moisture a lot. That cooler will work fine as a monotub. With 11 cakes, you should probably go with 6 quarts of sub.


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11963191 - 02/04/10 05:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

so no bags, ok.. trust  me no offence taken over but iv done over 6 months of research, so how about the codensation running down the sides of the cooler?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: ShroomFoot]
    #11963196 - 02/04/10 05:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

so 6 qts of H poo?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #11963609 - 02/04/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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so 6 qts of H poo?





Yup yup.

Try it out ahead of time and see how thick of a sub that gives you (obviously the cakes will add some).

If it seems too thin, add more accordingly until you have 4 inches or so.

Btw the way i got 6 was 11 pints=2.75 quarts * 2 for a 1:2 ratio = roughly 6. You can go higher than 1:2, but when you're first starting out u want a guaranteed success.


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: anonjon]
    #11963637 - 02/04/10 06:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

that tub looks tiny, 6 quarts of sub and 11 half pints would probably fill it halfway up.

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definitely use a bag. it helps moderate moisture a lot. That cooler will work fine as a monotub. With 11 cakes, you should probably go with 6 quarts of sub.




how does a bag help "moderate moisture"

to moderate is to "reduce in excess of"

last time i checked, if anything, a bag would hold in moisture.

what a bag DOES do is cling to your substrate, keeping your pins forming on top of your substrate and not on the sides where it can be hard to reach. also, if you fold down your bags, when your done with it, you can just pull them up, tie them off, and throw them away.

besides that, bin liners/trashbags don't do much at all.

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: SenorGrande]
    #11963685 - 02/04/10 06:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I can't judge that cooler very well. Just don't exceed 6 inches.


it moderates moisture because water evaporates from the sub and condensates on the sides.

When you have a liner the water pools under the plastic, making a small humidity reservoir, but not drenching the bottom of the sub. The sub dries out at a nice steady rate and pins from the top. Sub stays healthy longer. Having tried both ways I don't see why anyone would want to go without a liner.

Without the liner, the water runs down to the bottom and saturates the bottom of the sub. Not only does this make the bottom of the sub kinda funky, it makes it pin down there.

I realize if your moisture level is just perfect, you'll be fine because you won't get too much condensation building up. I strive for pragmatism tho, not perfectionism.


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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: anonjon]
    #11963723 - 02/04/10 06:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

ah i see what you are saying.

i agree.

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: SenorGrande]
    #12046184 - 02/17/10 10:53 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Should I do 2 coolers like that or will I get better results doing it all in one (11 .5 cakes to 6 qts of h poo) my jars are about 90 percent so far no contams. Thanks a lot guys. This helps a lot.

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #12046242 - 02/17/10 11:03 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Also, after colonization should I case it with verm, verm/peat or just let it from straight up?

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Re: Can this be possible? All opinions are appriciated! take a look. foam cooler tek? lol [Re: Bentley]
    #12048262 - 02/17/10 04:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

do 2 if u have enuff to do each at least 3 inches.


Case it if your ambient humidity is low. Like low to mid 40's? Otherwise its just an un-necessary step.


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