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OfflineChubbSubb
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Political books.
    #1195118 - 01/06/03 03:44 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Not 1984 or Animal Farm, and stuff like that. What are some good conspiracy, radical, liberal, 'new world order' type books?

Thanks, Trevor :laugh:


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1195348 - 01/06/03 04:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1196411 - 01/07/03 01:26 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: Political books. [Re: ]
    #1196429 - 01/07/03 01:54 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Or the anarchist cookbook...




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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1196431 - 01/07/03 01:57 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Well, i don't know if you will dig, but try to find "Cyberia- life in the trenches of cyberspace" (can't remind who the author is though, sorry. I had it in a .pdf file)



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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1198110 - 01/07/03 03:25 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks people! :grin:


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1198799 - 01/07/03 07:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry, I'm late. I'd like to recommend 'From Freedom to Slavery' by Gerry Spence.


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1200671 - 01/08/03 01:10 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Anything by Noam Chomsky will give you a new look at the world...


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    #1201338 - 01/08/03 04:26 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Political books. [Re: Rono]
    #1207413 - 01/10/03 04:59 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Chomsky, hhahahaha, aint nothin like anarchy


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1207453 - 01/10/03 05:16 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

FIRE by Sebastian Junger. Has a whole bunch of essays of different countries like Turkey, Pakistan, Kosovo, Greece, Rome, some groups of those and other countries and the way their governments worked as well of what was going on at the time. Interesting book. Its not really as much political but it shows how different countries felt toward SHIt... Its hard to explain. If you're interested, go read it.


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Re: Political books. [Re: Dilauded]
    #1227860 - 01/17/03 11:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Chomsky, hhahahaha, aint nothin like anarchy

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As much as i dislike such useless labels Chomsky is certainly an anarchist.


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    #1228075 - 01/18/03 05:36 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #1229801 - 01/18/03 08:18 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Off the top of my head I can think of a man by the name of John Loftus who's authored several books about the Bush (and other American elite) family's business relationships in Europe before WWII and how they, not exculusively but knowingly did business with the "right" people during the rise of the Nazis and profited heartily from their fateful efforts.

These articles and specifically this one - How the Bush family made it's fortune from the Nazi's - make for good reading.. I have yet to read any of his books, which are:


The Secret War Against the Jews


Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, The Nazis, and the Swiss Banks

and also "The Belarus Secret"


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #3583600 - 01/05/05 12:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

By Karl Marx:
* Communist Manifesto
* 18th Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte
* Misery of Phillosophy
* Das Kapital (maybe too technical for newcomers)

By Friedrich Engels:
* Anti-D?hring
* Feuerbach & the end of Classic German Phillosophy
* The origin of family, state & private property

By Vladimir Illych Lenin:
* State & Revolution
* Imperialism, superior phase in capitalism

By Antonio Gramsci:
* Anthology

You can?t be wrong with this guys.


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Re: Political books. [Re: FeliusAndromeda]
    #3583835 - 01/05/05 01:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

You can?t be wrong with this guys.




Actually, you can.

I recommend The Society of the Spectacle and The Revolution of Everyday Life


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Re: Political books. [Re: Vvellum]
    #3584363 - 01/05/05 04:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, the Situationists are cool. what I've seen/read by Debord and Vienet I enjoyed but need to do a little more research and really get a sense of what they're really saying.

Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States is a good look at a more factual account of the history of the U.S. it's a hell of a lot more informative than any U.S. history class I ever took in high school or college. if your only knowledge of the history of this country comes from your upbringing (unless your parents were socialists or something :wink:), then it's worth a read.

for "conspiracy theorist" type stuff Alex Jones is pretty relevant. http://www.prisonplanet.com and http://www.infowars.com are his sites that have many articles on the Bush family ties to Hitler, the relationship of every U.S. president, etc. and you can get some of his books and films from the IW site. I don't take everything he says to heart but do look at things from a different angle than what the U.S. media/government portrays.

I have a few gigs of political video clips on my computer from Jones regarding Bohemian Grove, 9-11, and some other shit by Guerilla News Network http://www.guerrillanews.com (you can d/l vids there) on the "War on Drugs", 9-11, and other misc. clips from various sources. I can host them on my FTP if there's interest.

there's a lot of information out there. some shitty and not very well researched. some relevant and mindboggling.


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #3585231 - 01/05/05 06:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

the prince by machevilli


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Re: Political books. [Re: ChubbSubb]
    #3586185 - 01/05/05 10:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

prince isnt radical or anything about new world order .its just machiavelli telling the prince what he wants to hear on how he should act. a classic for realism.


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