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OfflinePasqual
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straw/dung question
    #1194026 - 01/05/03 08:08 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hi !
I grew cubensis without problems, never had contamination problems or anything else.
I believe in my techniques and did this a lot of times.
But ...
The last weeks i made various attempts to grow pan. cyan.
I have two good strains. One from mushmush, the other one from Baerbel.
The rye jars were completely colonized in two weeks.

pan. cyan. needs dung or straw to fruit, therefor i prepared a lot of
sterilized bags to put the rye in them.
The bags are filled with straw or straw/dung, once with horse poo, once more
with cow manure and vermiculite and so on ...
After bringing the rye in the bags, i shaked a little bit an put them at 70F or 27C
in a dark growing box.
Now it happens : nothing ...
The mycelium stops growing, it didn't take over the straw or dung.
After one week most of the mycelium is getting dry or dissapears.
I dont have any clue what i'm doing wrong.
There are a lot of pan. cyan. teks, i tried them without success.
Does somebody made the same experience or could give me some hints ?
I will post some pictures today evening.
greets
Pasqual

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Re: straw/dung question [Re: Pasqual]
    #1194231 - 01/05/03 10:26 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

What was the spawn ratio?
What was the moisture level in the dung/straw?
Did you paturise or streilize the dung/straw?

peace...

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OfflinePasqual
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Re: straw/dung question [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #1194256 - 01/05/03 10:56 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

>What was the moisture level in the dung/straw?
the straw was soaked for 24 hours.
probably right. Not too wet. I will add a picture ...

>What was the spawn ratio?
hmm.. i used different teks.
1 part of colonized rye and 4 parts straw/dung ....
sometimes dried cow dung/vermiculite or straw/cow manure or horse poo.
always about 1:4
I followed Una's tek from www.mushmush.nl

Did you paturise or streilize the dung/straw?
Always sterilized in a steam pressure pot for 1 or 2 hours.


:crazy: 

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Re: straw/dung question [Re: Pasqual]
    #1194513 - 01/06/03 02:40 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

You want a bag of my vegan poo? :laugh:

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pictures .... [Re: Mr Wobblehead]
    #1194580 - 01/06/03 03:19 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

vegan poo tek  :grin:
... no, never !  disqusting ...

two pictures from my straw/rye bags.
Three days after mixing straw and rye.
Too dry ?? I dont thinks so, but i can't know. :crazy:
Is it the end ?





 

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Re: pictures .... [Re: Pasqual]
    #1194826 - 01/06/03 12:16 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Do those bags have a filter patch for air exchange??



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Re: straw/dung question [Re: Pasqual]
    #1194840 - 01/06/03 12:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Pan Cyan requires a casing layer, I didn't notice you saying there was one added. That could be your problem, also pan cyan requires a LOT of air exchanged, compared to cubensis, to fruit.


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OfflinePasqual
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Re: straw/dung question [Re: Raadt]
    #1196183 - 01/06/03 08:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hi !

> Do those bags have a filter patch for air exchange??No. There is some air in the bags. Should be sufficient for a few days.
Don't you think so?

> Pan Cyan requires a casing layer, I didn't notice you saying there was one added. That could be your >problem, also pan cyan requires a LOT of air exchanged, compared to cubensis, to fruit.
First i want to make some substrate. After that i would case it.

I will do another try with Ralphster's tek ...
greets
Pasqual


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