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Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads)
    #11936764 - 01/31/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

They can't stop the drug trade, so lock up the musicians who sing about it :rolleyes: ...

Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads)
January 28, 2010 - Drug War Chronicle

Los Tucanes de Tijuana performing "The People's Doctor." The good doctor who has the medicine to cure his patients' ills sends his "Greetings to all my patients in Texas and Colorado, and also Salt Lake City, Albuquerque, and Chicago, and California and Arizona, and Nevada, my biggest market."

Under a bill presented to Mexico's congress last week by the ruling National Action Party (PAN), musicians could be sent to prison for playing songs that glorify the drug trade. People who produce or perform songs or films that glamorize criminality could be imprisoned for up to three years, according to the proposed legislation.

The bill is aimed squarely at narcocorridos, the norteño musical form typically featuring men in cowboy hats playing guitars, accordions, and drums, and singing about the exploits, trials, and tribulations of people in the drug trade. Corridos have been a border musical form for more than a century, but in the past, their themes tended to romance, revolution, and banditry.

These days, narcocorridos are popular on both sides of the border, with groups like Los Tigres del Norte or Los Tucanes de Tijuana pulling in crowds of tens of thousands in Tucson and Torreon, Austin and Aguascalientes. But as with gangsta rap in the US, politicians, law enforcement officials, and moral entrepreneurs have denounced the form for glorifying Mexico's wealthy, violent drug trade.

Traffickers have been known to pipe taunting or threatening messages accompanied by narcocorridos into police radio networks after some killings. And while narcocorridos often lament personal disasters in the drug trade, they also extol successes, lionize leading traffickers, and ridicule security forces.

And now the government of President Felipe Calderon, who has presided over an explosion of prohibition-related violence since taking office in December 2006 and calling out the army to take on the traffickers, is going after the singers. "Society sees drug ballads as nice, pleasant, inconsequential and harmless -- but they are the opposite," Oscar Martin Arce, a PAN MP, told the Associated Press.

The bill was also aimed at low-budget films glorifying traffickers, Martin said. "We cannot accept it as normal. We cannot exalt these people because they themselves are distributing these materials among youths to lead them into a lifestyle where the bad guy wins," Martin said. The intent was not to limit free speech, but to prevent the incitement to crime, he said.

That didn't sit well with Elijah Wald, author of "Narcocorrido: A Journey into the Music of Drugs, Guns, and Guerrillas." Wald told the AP politicians were trying to censor artists instead of addressing Mexico's real problems. "It is very hard to stop the drug trafficking," he added. "It is very easy to get your name in the papers by attacking famous musicians."

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #11937043 - 01/31/10 05:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:facepalm:

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: gnarfbuckle]
    #11937393 - 01/31/10 06:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

woah that's some bull

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: PreparationH]
    #11937549 - 01/31/10 07:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

"Willie Nelson's not a criminal, busted with some shrooms and with some weed...
oooh
Willie Nelson's not a crim-in-all, so let, old willie, be free."
*Kottonmouth Kings - Free Willy

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Ahh hell here's the whole song

This songs going out to an american hero
And anybody else who has ever been harrassed or arrested for smoking the beautiful plant
Marijuana

[Chorus]
Ohhh willie nelsons not a criminal
He was busted with some shrooms and with some weed
(outlaw deperado)
Ohhh willie nelsons not a criminal
So wont you let old willie be free
(drinking whiskey out the bottle)

He was just average man with the plan of freedom thinking
Good times and good vibes yo was what he was bringing
But still the goverment thought Willie was a threat
So they picked on old Willie and put him in serious debt
Took his house and his cars but couldn't take his guitar
Tried to push a good man on his face in the yard
But Willie stood strong and he came correct
Paid off the taxman with the flag around his head
A true patriot the one to start a farm aid
And made sure the farmers of today are getting fairly paid
A rebel in his hay still a rebel to this day
A true inspiration for the youth of today
So I say to everybody come and pay your respect
To Willie Nelson and think where a third of your check goes
Cause its going down the drain to fight wars over seas and enemies on scene

Yo Willie nelson, hes a legend, hes smokes buds like the bubba cloud brethrend you know the
Government, they don't like him, cause he smoked a joint on the roof of the white house
He puffs clouds, he gets high, hes a rebel for the cause you know he feels the vibes, oh
Willie Willie you're a friend of mine, wore the red bandanna like the game when he rhymes, he got
The guitar pick, you know he drinks wine, got things in common like boozin in kind, music for
The mind, freedom of speech, blue jeans rocker flannel with the long sleeves, green trees this
And that, the simple things in life like barbecuing in the back, yard being free smoking weed
Writing books only god can judge me

Edited by Magick (01/31/10 07:23 PM)

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #11937568 - 01/31/10 07:20 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's fuckin' ridiculous...

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: BothHands]
    #11937648 - 01/31/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone got a Youtube link to a good Narcocorrido?


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: deCypher]
    #11937889 - 01/31/10 08:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Here is one that was in the original article


There are plenty more on youtube, but they are all in Spanish, of course.

Here’s one translated verse from Lupillo Rivera:
“A ballplayer, gentlemen, throws balls in the park. I am a ballplayer, but of a different sort. If you do not understand me, friends, allow me to explain. The little balls I throw are of pure white powder, It is a very good vitamin to get you stirred up, And a toke of marijuana will serve to relax you.”

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #11938125 - 01/31/10 08:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I can understand what they are doing. When you have drug gangs in Mexico enslaving (as in work or we shoot you) and killing people, you don't want anyone glorifying any part of it that might attract young people.

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: Rabid Jelly Bean]
    #11938131 - 01/31/10 08:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Censorship is not the way to solve this problem.


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: deCypher]
    #11944354 - 02/01/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Some real bad asses glorying their superiority over the law.


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #13028128 - 08/09/10 05:54 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

fyi narco corridos are still playing ON THE US AIRWAVES.. funny how they censor the crap out of english radio but when i go to the spanish radio songs come up about all sorts or narco related things.

one song they play on the radio talks about revenge on border patrol, and smuggling mota and crystal.. bwahah

you peeps in the US should learn spanish.. it really is an eye opener being bilingual (spanish- english) in the US.


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: nopalero]
    #13028151 - 08/09/10 05:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

this documentry from VBS TV talks about Narco Cinema..

http://www.vbs.tv/watch/the-vice-guide-to-film--2/mexican-narco-cinema-part-1-of-3


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Edited by nopalero (08/09/10 06:00 PM)

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: nopalero]
    #13029407 - 08/09/10 10:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)


y

narcocorridos son bueno


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #13371511 - 10/22/10 01:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

There is a a narcocorridos band on season 3 of Breaking Bad.

I thought it was cool, that they had a mexican band singing about heisenburg.    I had no idea, that this was an entire genre of music.


I tell ya that Breaking Bad show is so on point.        Theres nothing worse than watching all 3 seasons of breaking bad, and then realizing that you now have to wait a year and then week by week to see what happens next.

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: nopalero]
    #13371666 - 10/22/10 02:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

nopalero said:
you peeps in the US should learn spanish.. it really is an eye opener being bilingual (spanish- english) in the US.




I was going to say the stuff is played in Mexican establishments, in the US, at eardrum shattering volumes.

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: deCypher]
    #13371927 - 10/22/10 03:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

deCypher said:
Censorship is not the way to solve this problem.




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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: veggie]
    #13371983 - 10/22/10 03:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I thought they had freedom of speech in Mexico.

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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: Le_Canard]
    #13383294 - 10/25/10 12:34 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The Mexican government is literally on the verge of collapse. I mean when police are too afraid to go out on patrols, you have a serious problem. Or when you have a 20 year old girl working as chief of police. Or when an criminal organization kills 70 people by firing squad, something is seriously wrong.

The government is desperate. They have no options really. America trained a special force in Mexico (I believe specifically to combat gangs) anyway. They were called the Zeta. If you follow what's going on down there, the Zeta is what is doing the crazier violent shit. I've seen more Zeta beheadings then Terrorist beheadings. It's out of control.


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Re: Mexico Proposes Banning Narcocorridos (Drug Ballads) [Re: Darwin23]
    #13384107 - 10/25/10 08:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

They've also founded diplomatic proxies and will send them in, to help.

Good cop, bad cop.

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