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OfflineALHOFF177A17
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Stools!!!
    #1193245 - 01/05/03 06:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I went for a walk today and came across these.


The above two are different from the rest although they may just be in a different part of their life.



The above baby one has the little cup at the base, and if my memory serves me correctly that is a characteristic of the death cap.

I believe they were growing off of rotting grass and dead mustard sticks, although the area used to be a nursery which may or may not have used organic fertilizers.
Area is southern california and it has been dry and moderatly warm for about a week. Night time temperature is probably within the 40-50 range.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1193606 - 01/05/03 07:48 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Interesting specimens. We need spore prints to be sure of genus.

If they were growing from the ground, then your second group are Amanitas (which includes the Death Caps) and they will have white spore prints, but if they were growing from wood (or straw) and have pinkish spore prints then they would be Volvariellas (which also have a volva - a cup on the base of the stem). Although the gills in the last photo are suggestively pinkish, some Amanitas have gills which darken with age (and I tend not to trust the color balance in photos).

If they are Amanitas, then we will need to see details of the base of the stem (with volva) to have a chance at a good ID. Some Amanitas have stems which go down into the soil a bit like a taproot, and we need to see that if there is one.

Other things which might help us would be a description of the odor of the mushrooms, cutting one in half and letting us know about any bruising or discoloration, and describing any trees which might be near where the mushrooms were growing.

Let us know.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1194145 - 01/05/03 11:20 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

not death cap or destroying angel .
amaneias have a definite vail .
it is more likely a common Agaricus medoew muffin, Agaricus safewayus,wihch also have pink gills .
still, i wouldn't eat it without a positive id .


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: deanofmean]
    #1194249 - 01/06/03 12:53 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Agaricus don't have volva.
It must be Volvariella.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1194723 - 01/06/03 01:40 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

I believe what you've got there are mushrooms. You can find stools at ratemypoo.com


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: zeronio]
    #1195391 - 01/06/03 05:30 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Agaricus don't have volva.
It must be Volvariella.




you are correct, i didn't see the volva.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1195631 - 01/06/03 06:56 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Im gonna say off hand they are probably some kind of Lepiota, or possibly even an Agaricus. Further measures need to be taken before any of us can be sure.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1195916 - 01/06/03 08:50 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

not amanita at all... lack of "ring"


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1196149 - 01/06/03 10:28 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Thank all of you for your replies, sorry for not having enough details... I will return to that spot tomarrow and see if the white ones turn to the brown ones, and also to get more details. :wink:
The second to last picture has the volva as you say it. 


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ALHOFF177A17]
    #1197135 - 01/07/03 09:25 AM (14 years, 11 months ago)

is there not a ringless amanita?
.....or a few?


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: viscid]
    #1198359 - 01/07/03 05:15 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, there are several ringless Amanitas. For that matter, many Amanitas don't even have a real volva (though they will have a conspicuous basal bulb on the stem instead).

There is also the possibility that the ring could have fallen off. Most Amanita rings are fragile.


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Re: Stools!!! [Re: ToxicMan]
    #1198423 - 01/07/03 05:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago)

they would to have had to fallen off all specimens with no sign of it's previous presance.


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