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A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity
    #1192701 - 01/05/03 03:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)



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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: xnevermore]
    #1193916 - 01/05/03 09:12 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

"Fuck pascal" is just one of my many mantras.

I vow to eventually check out that entire site... but it looks pretty good.


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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: xnevermore]
    #1194064 - 01/05/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Very detailed. Thanks for the link.


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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: xnevermore]
    #1194142 - 01/05/03 11:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Great link! For those who didn't get a chance to check it out, here is a brief summary of Pascal's Wager:

"If there is a God, He is infinitely incomprehensible, since, having, neither parts nor limits, He has no affinity to us. We are then incapable of knowing either what He is or if He is ... you must wager. It is not optional. You are embarked. Which will you choose then? Let us weigh the gain and the loss in wagering that God is. Let us estimate these two chances. If you gain, you gain all; if you lose, you lose nothing. Wager then without hesitation that he is."

Sounds logical, right? Wrong. There is a flaw: Pascal assumed that there are only two alternative bets; become a Roman Catholic or not. But those are not the only two choices. There are an infinite number of beliefs to choose from, and so your odds of betting on the right one are very slim indeed, if not impossible.


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:smile:  Just stating my thoughts, not trying to offend  :smile:


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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: GoBlue!]
    #1194401 - 01/06/03 03:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

pascal's wager is almost the flip side of the sufi story about the 3 communities...
showing 3 groups... the first was all sketchy from wanting heaven; the second was all twitchy from fearing hell; the third was glowing, radiant, transformed not from wanting heaven, or fearing hell, but from loving god...
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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: xnevermore]
    #1195459 - 01/06/03 05:56 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yassss how dreary. Pick out a flaw in an argument for the existence of God and put the issue to rest.

Can anyone say, "Poisoning the well?"


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Re: A Skeptic's Guide To Christianity [Re: gnrm23]
    #1195473 - 01/06/03 06:00 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

showing 3 groups... the first was all sketchy from wanting heaven; the second was all twitchy from fearing hell; the third was glowing, radiant, transformed not from wanting heaven, or fearing hell, but from loving god...

OMG that is an awesome sentence!    :ooo: :laugh:  :grin:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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