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Does whole grain colonize faster then pf?
    #1192287 - 01/05/03 11:52 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have some pf cakes which are kept at good temperature 80+ ... but they don't colonize all that fast... i heard whole grain colonize faster 1week+ ... what is the nutritional difference between pf and it... and why are whole grains better for spawning the pf...


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: c0ma]
    #1192300 - 01/05/03 11:58 AM (14 years, 4 months ago)

well some people claim to have about 8 or 9 days for grains but otheres usually see around 2 weeks for full colonization. this is so because each grain becomes and innoculation point. real nice stuff but requires a 15psi pc.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: c0ma]
    #1192302 - 01/05/03 12:00 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

You can shake up grain so it's easier to distribute the mycelium around, and making growth a lot faster.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: c0ma]
    #1192654 - 01/05/03 02:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I have a few jars of cambodians on birdseed that are about 95% colonized after 6 days.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Skryllz]
    #1192680 - 01/05/03 03:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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I have a few jars of cambodians on birdseed that are about 95% colonized after 6 days.



That is nice but you could at least tell us what tek you use, or what you use for inoculation, or the temp in your incubator.....
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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Skryllz]
    #1192697 - 01/05/03 03:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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I have a few jars of cambodians on birdseed that are about 95% colonized after 6 days.


What sized jars? How did you inoculate, if multispore, how many cc did you inject, and was it a home made syringe, or vendor bought?

I'm just curious because those are great results.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: BC-Shroom]
    #1192775 - 01/05/03 03:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Read Anno's TEK man...


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: BC-Shroom]
    #1192809 - 01/05/03 03:53 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry about that. Soak birdseed for 12-36 hours, rinse and strain birdseed, load into 1 pint jars and pc for 80 minutes at 10psi(my pressure cooker is a 4qt mirro that only goes upto 10psi). I used multispore innoculation at 2cc's per jar of Cambodian from TLG. My incubator ranges from 84-88 degrees. I also have some B+ going from TLG, and some creeper from a print I won in a contest going that I used the same tek for. The B+ is 4 days old and going a lot slower and the creeper is 3 days old and starting to colonize pretty well. This is my first time using birdseed and all I have to say is I'll never go back to BRF/Verm cakes.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Skryllz]
    #1193020 - 01/05/03 05:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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This is my first time using birdseed and all I have to say is I'll never go back to BRF/Verm cakes.



Exactly!
I only use birdseed and Rye Grain.
Hella faster colonization times, more spawn, better inoculation points....etc. etc. etc.

Congrats on your first birdseed not going bad on you!


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1193042 - 01/05/03 05:16 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I made up so many jars because I figured my first batch of birdseed would go bad on me, but so far none have. I don't know what I'm going to do with them all. I think one of the reasons I've had good luck is the fact the I use lysol obsessively. I also scrub my hole work area down with alcohol then peroxide before doing any kind of work.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Skryllz]
    #1193055 - 01/05/03 05:20 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Well keeping things clean is important....but I think it came down to your birdseed tek that you used.
Water content and such makes a huge difference.

Just make large casings with your jars.

good luck!


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Roadkill]
    #1193324 - 01/05/03 06:32 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

im supose to get a creeper sirenge preaty soon, and i want to experiment with whole grans, but since i don't have a pc... im gonna do that fractional sterilization for 3 days... i heard it works well... probly gonna use half pint jars since im gonna have about 7 empty ones and i don't feel like buying pint jars right now... afterward... im gonna probly spawn them with some good compost and case with 50/50 ... i got big plans... i just need to get some big money now :smile:


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Skikid16]
    #1193352 - 01/05/03 06:42 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

I've had B+ in BRF 100% colonize in 4 days, and i've had the same strain in BRF colonize in 20 days, I've had Eqs colonize rye grass seed in 8 days, and I've had the same colonize rye in 18.


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: rommstein2001]
    #1193629 - 01/05/03 07:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

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I've had B+ in BRF 100% colonize in 4 days




Info, pics?


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: c0ma]
    #1193666 - 01/05/03 08:03 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

is it possible to use that birdseed tek without using a pc? i don`t have one.....so is there anyway i could maybe just boil it longer or something?


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Re: Does whole grain colonize faster then pf? [Re: Firepubes]
    #1193801 - 01/05/03 08:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago)

Check out the FAQ and look for fractional sterilization. I just recommend buying a PC though, you can usually get them pretty cheap. I got mine for $17 on sale at Meijer. Lots of big super stores like Wal-mart, K-mart, and Meijer will have small pressure cookers that cost about $20.


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