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mongo lloyd
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: ZenClarity]
#11912332 - 01/27/10 11:49 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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Don't take any other drugs for a week before and don't eat on the day. Easy. I think Syrian rue is supposed to be safer than a pharmaceutical MAOI.
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albien5
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i did it yesterday and the day before. Syrian Rue and mimosa as a tea. The experience was intense lasts 3 - 4 hours , the second time 5 seven hours i had a drink and my head was near to make crash a lot of pain ... I suggest after taking MAOI eat not cheese and meat dont drink alcohol and never take medicines . Dedicate the day to ayahuasca . Before some years i made the mistake to take xanax after 3 hours , i had headache for a month, be very careful . The meat is ok but no alcohol or other psychoactive plus never try to take dopaminergic such as cocaine or MDMA .
The ayahuasca with Syrian Rue is cleaner, with some lemon it has no much nausea and it needs much less DMT 15 g of mimosa into the tea is fine.
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Moo456
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: albien5]
#11912805 - 01/28/10 01:15 AM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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I wouldnt think that xanax would be bad with an MAOI. Arnt hypertensive crises' treated with benzodiazapines?
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jw2234
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Registered: 08/18/09
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! *DELETED* [Re: Dr. Seuss]
#11914345 - 01/28/10 05:13 AM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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rsinatra13
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: jw2234]
#11914527 - 01/28/10 05:35 AM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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jw2234 said:
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Dr. Seuss said: The result is a 3-5 hour, DMT-driven trip without any violent vomiting.
IMO, doing this is a mistake. I personally would choose to do ayahuasca the traditional way (with the purging) because it supposedly clears the bad energy in your body/mind, and helps banish the darkness from you spirit. it has been used by shamans this way for thousands of years. i mean obviously it isnt the end of the world if you didnt purge but i feel like that part of the experience is one of the things that makes ayahuasca so special, and above all, the plant healer that it is, and is used as.
.... what if you just wanna trip and have a good time
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13.step
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: rsinatra13]
#11916526 - 01/28/10 05:13 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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I don't really think you can trip and have a good time on ayahuasca,on low doses maybe,but the deeper you go in the more introspective and weird it gets,I don't have that much experience with it so it would be nice if someone could prove me wrong,but that's how it's been for me.
Oh and I don't doubt that you can get a bad interaction with food and Syrian rue,just not if you eat normally,only if you overdo it.Tyramine can in high enough dosage cause a reaction by itself,i'm sure that syrian rue lowers that threshold somewhat.
I respect that people might want take the diet for spiritual purposes or believe that purging is part of the healing and i don't doubt that for them it is,but combining something that makes you're psyche susceptible to suggestion with a drug that has a lower safety profile then most can sometimes leave you with a month-long headache.
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Moo456
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: 13.step]
#11916537 - 01/28/10 05:18 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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The headache isnt placebo, but I do wonder why anyone would get a month long headache from an interaction. I only get a headache for the duration of the MAOI effects (up to 12 hours).
Oral DMT can certainly be fun at a medium dose. Its one of my favorite drugs.
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rsinatra13
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: Moo456]
#11916828 - 01/28/10 06:48 PM (13 years, 11 days ago) |
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i have fun on my medium doses of aya  the visuals are much better than most of my shroom trips
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13.step
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Re: Oh no, it's an MAOI! [Re: rsinatra13]
#11922459 - 01/29/10 02:22 PM (13 years, 10 days ago) |
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Man,you guys make me miss oral DMT now that I can't have it(st. johns wort).I didn't mean to say that the headaches are placebo,just that a lot of the side-effects that some people notice are,like the month long headache.
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