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InvisibleChronic7
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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: circastes]
    #13750836 - 01/08/11 05:15 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Chronic7] * 1
    #13750873 - 01/08/11 05:54 AM (13 years, 23 days ago)

"True sanity entails in one way or another the dissolution of the normal ego, that false self competently adjusted to our alienated social reality: the emergence of the 'inner' archetypal mediators of divine power, and through this death a rebirth, and the eventual reestablishment of a new kind of ego-functioning, the ego now being the servant of the Divine, no longer its betrayer."
R. D. Laing


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: circastes] * 1
    #13751012 - 01/08/11 07:30 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

hahaa, nice!...but, whats so great about Rolls Royces?


God does not exist. He is being-itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore, to argue that God exists is to deny him.  --- Paul Tillich


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? *DELETED* [Re: random_wanderer]
    #13751144 - 01/08/11 08:35 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Chronic7]
    #13751365 - 01/08/11 09:45 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

The Chronic said:
Quote:

random_wanderer said:
hahaa, nice!...but, whats so great about Rolls Royces?





True, i want my devotees to buy me a Ferrari not a Roller, Osho got it twisetd



:lol: 
...you like your ferrari's aye!

Happiness is your nature. It is not wrong to desire it. What is wrong is seeking it outside when it is inside. --- Sri Ramana Maharshi


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: random_wanderer]
    #13755318 - 01/08/11 10:43 PM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

random_wanderer said:
hahaa, nice!...but, whats so great about Rolls Royces?


God does not exist. He is being-itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore, to argue that God exists is to deny him.  --- Paul Tillich



I like that one.

I don't know what Osho was doing with all those cars but he seemed to believe life should be exploited of its potential experiences. I agree with that. I live impulsively some of the time, taking opportunities to just delight myself with pleasures, then I stop when I think it's enough. Like they say, everything in moderation, including moderation...


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: circastes]
    #13756436 - 01/09/11 06:59 AM (13 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

circastes said:
Quote:

random_wanderer said:
hahaa, nice!...but, whats so great about Rolls Royces?


God does not exist. He is being-itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore, to argue that God exists is to deny him.  --- Paul Tillich



I like that one.

I don't know what Osho was doing with all those cars but he seemed to believe life should be exploited of its potential experiences. I agree with that. I live impulsively some of the time, taking opportunities to just delight myself with pleasures, then I stop when I think it's enough. Like they say, everything in moderation, including moderation...




Aye, I think that taking it easy, living peacefully and enjoying life (and or exploiting its potential) are definitely good messages to send out to the world. Sounds like you have things very sussed, i am not yet able to stop myself when i think it is enough, kudos to you xxx.

And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! Or, Lo there! For behold, the kingdom of God is within you. --- Luke 17:20-21


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: random_wanderer] * 1
    #13769199 - 01/11/11 02:15 PM (13 years, 19 days ago)

"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and Demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, Beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and Its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide. Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, Even a stranger, when in a lonely place. Show respect to all people and Bow to none. When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the food and For the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, The fault lies only in yourself. Abuse no one and nothing, For abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision. When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts Are filled with fear of death, so that when their time comes They weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again In a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home." Tecumseh


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: HappyTrippin]
    #13777642 - 01/12/11 09:59 PM (13 years, 18 days ago)

Quote:

HappyTrippin said:
"So live your life that the fear of death can never enter your heart. Trouble no one about their religion; respect others in their view, and Demand that they respect yours. Love your life, perfect your life, Beautify all things in your life. Seek to make your life long and Its purpose in the service of your people. Prepare a noble death song for the day when you go over the great divide. Always give a word or a sign of salute when meeting or passing a friend, Even a stranger, when in a lonely place. Show respect to all people and Bow to none. When you arise in the morning, give thanks for the food and For the joy of living. If you see no reason for giving thanks, The fault lies only in yourself. Abuse no one and nothing, For abuse turns the wise ones to fools and robs the spirit of its vision. When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts Are filled with fear of death, so that when their time comes They weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again In a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home." Tecumseh





Nice...good share.


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: SteezeMonkey] * 1
    #13798827 - 01/16/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 14 days ago)

"Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, The 2002 Olympic Winter Games, professional wrestling and Mormons baptizing dead Jews. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the résumé of a Supreme Being. This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say "this guy", because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a God, it has to be a man." - George Carlin

"Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth." - John F. Kennedy

"The way I see it - when the desire for wealth becomes the sole purpose of existence (which is the case of corporate person-hood) great harm will befall the common man. It is compassion for each other and being morally responsible that makes for a good society while greed makes society a living hell." - Philip Pease

"Everything pertaining to what's happening has never come to the surface. The world will never know the true facts of what occurred, my motives. The people who had so much to gain, and had such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position I'm in, will never let the true facts come above board to the world." - Jack Ruby

"In a free society, we are supposed to know the truth. In a society where truth becomes treason, we are in big trouble." - Ron Paul

“I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money-power of the country will endeavor to prolong it's reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed.” - Abraham Lincoln

"Religious suffering is, at the same time, the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people." - Karl Marx

"You don't need a formal conspiracy when interests converge." - George Carlin

"The ideals of Aldoph... took somewhere between 68-72 million lives to remove him from office. What will the cost be today?" - Michael Morris

"Be the change you want to see in this world" - Gandi
"Don’t damage computer systems you break into (including crashing them); don’t change the information in those systems (except for altering logs to cover your tracks); and share information" - Julian Assange

"I can only hope that one day man will rise against this oppression and truly make the mark he was meant to make on this earth, the statement that we are freethinking individuals, not throwaway slaves destined to rot a figurative eternity in the hell hole that we honestly try to call a democratically run country that is America." - DefectiveProduct
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"The purpose of life is a life of purpose." - Robert Byrne

"Life is all about self indulgence and prosperity. Your life is about YOU, not anyone else. There is no proof that there is after life. There is no proof that there will be a heavenly gate or roasting fire awaiting you after death. Christians, aside from their own biblical reference, has no support that their God is all forgiving, loving, and will grant a peaceful life after death. The writings done by the Christians were written to support THEIR claim, nothing more. Moreover there are hundreds of different Christian interpretations of their God. Which claim should I believe? Life is all about you. The objective of your life is to achieve the greatest pleasure you can possibly obtain from this world. Once we are dead, we are nothing but dirt. You achieve those pleasures through education, status quo, fame, and any thing that might quench your thirst. Life is all about you in the sense that you want to make yourself stand out among others. Laugh at others. You are the best in the world once you believe that you have accomplished the ultimate happiness in your life. The purpose of your life is to make yourself admire yourself. Open your eyes, my friend. There is no afterlife, thus you must enjoy your life during your sojourn. If others hurt you, hurt them back. Life is a fair game. Welcome to the real world." - Megan T.
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"It is what you do with the gift of life that determines who you are." - pokémon the first movie

"whatever. management wants you gone by the end of the day." - american beauty

"look, you can spend your whole life trying to win your parents acceptance, believe me. but at the end of the day, you've just got do it for yourself, baby!" - austin powers

"so cal is where my mind states, but it's not my state of mind" - eve6

"fuck da corporate world, biatch" - afroman

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace" - jimi hendrix

"you can do more damage from within the system, then ever out." - slc punk

"you decide your level of involvement" - tyler durden

"and then I remember ... to relax, and not try to hold on to it. And then it flows through me like rain. And I can't feel anything but gratitude for every single moment of my stupid little life. You have no idea what I'm talking about, I'm sure. Don't worry ... you will someday." - american beauty
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"Knowledge is power, options are power, options are choices. People make up society. Social stimulation maintains welfare within society, it supplies the demand of the people (both from man-made, and natural resources). To make it more generally possible and manageable, currency is used. Currency is money. Money is created by the (pre)established government. Government regulates and standardizes general life of society. But within people, lays variations, due to choice. People are all different because of unique disposition and choice. Standardization is imperfect due to disposition and choice, but within choice, is the meaning of life itself. Government is all powerful, but is still created of people. People chosen to lead. People bear unprofessional tendencies (selfishness, stupidity, insecurities, naivety, generalization and ignorance) which can put our government's accountability into question. Fuck the status quo. But somehow, everyday is different, humans look forward, evolution prevails."

"Why we all subjected to learn what's so conveniently teachable in public schools? We learned alot of things in life, why should it be appropriated to the government to teach the future generations what we truly need to know? We usually forget a lot of the pointless things learned in high school, but in life, we remember our consistent character to yield as pride, and our variating philosophies that are rather constantly then consistent in such a "progressive" American life considering on how relativity should always be the factor. In that context, slowly perceiving this structure of how American life is perpetuated and elaborated in concurrent society shows major signs of fundamental corruption. Things could change for the better, but would things change for good? Look into this world and take it as example on what should/shouldn't be done/replicated/perpetuated in the future."

"once something out of nothingness is universally understood, the important things become acknowledged once more and cherished indefinitely."

"sharing information, replicating and elaborating intellectuality invokes evolution which perpetuates onto infinity"

"the answer to life is within yourself, and make you make of during your experience here. you are apart of the human race, the most predominate species on the planet. don't waste your gift of life."

"conformity is convenience, and so is money."

"unhappiness is contagious"
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"All philosophies are mental fabrications. There has never been a single doctrine by which one could enter the true essence of things." - LSD

"There's this great chemical called Lysergic acid diethylamide that helps you see and understand the science behind your own thought process and subconscious mind. LSD puts you in an introspective mentality that could possibly help you assort all the perceived complications and confusion in your own unique life. It's a great reminder to show how you aren't alone as you think you are. You have a solid understand of what is real and what isn't real. There's a counter-culture consisting of creativity and fundamental human compassion out there that you can finally call your own."

"How about a positive LSD story? Wouldn't that be news-worthy, just the once? To base your decision on information rather than scare tactics and superstition and lies? I think it would be news-worthy. 'Today, a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we're the imagination of ourselves' . . . 'Here's Tom with the weather.'" - Bill Hicks

"'Turn on' meant go within to activate your neural and genetic equipment. Become sensitive to the many and various levels of consciousness and the specific triggers that engage them. Drugs were one way to accomplish this end. 'Tune in' meant interact harmoniously with the world around you—externalize, materialize, express your new internal perspectives. Drop out suggested an elective, selective, graceful process of detachment from involuntary or unconscious commitments. 'Drop Out' meant self-reliance, a discovery of one's singularity, a commitment to mobility, choice, and change. Unhappily my explanations of this sequence of personal development were often misinterpreted to mean 'Get stoned and abandon all constructive activity.'" - Timothy Leary

"That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary’s trip. He crashed around America selling ‘consicousness expansion’ without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him too seriously . . . All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours, too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped to create . . . a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody—or at least some force—is tending the Light at the end of the tunnel." - Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

"Of greatest significance to me has been the insight that I attained as a fundamental understanding from all of my LSD experiments: what one commonly takes as 'the reality,' including the reality of one's own individual person, by no means signifies something fixed, but rather something that is ambiguous—that there is not only one, but that there are many realities, each comprising also a different consciousness of the ego. One can also arrive at this insight through scientific reflections. The problem of reality is and has been from time immemorial a central concern of philosophy. It is, however, a fundamental distinction, whether one approaches the problem of reality rationally, with the logical methods of philosophy, or if one obtrudes upon this problem emotionally, through an existential experience. The first planned LSD experiment was therefore so deeply moving and alarming, because everyday reality and the ego experiencing it, which I had until then considered to be the only reality, dissolved, and an unfamiliar ego experienced another, unfamiliar reality. The problem concerning the innermost self also appeared, which, itself unmoved, was able to record these external and internal transformations. Reality is inconceivable without an experiencing subject, without an ego. It is the product of the exterior world, of the sender and of a receiver, an ego in whose deepest self the emanations of the exterior world, registered by the antennae of the sense organs, become conscious. If one of the two is lacking, no reality happens, no radio music plays, the picture screen remains blank." - Albert Hofmann

"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." - P.J. O'Rourke

"Internet is the LSD of the 90's" - Timothy Leary
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"Inclination of direction, walk the turned and twisted rift
With the children of creation futuristic dreams we sift
Clutching violently we whisper with a liquefying cry
Any deadly final answers that are surely doomed to die
Won't you help me Mr. Jesus, won't you tell me if you can?
When you see this world we live in, do you still believe in Man?
If my songs become my freedom, and my freedom turns to gold
Then I'll ask the final question, if the answer could be sold" Black Sabbath - Thrill of it All

"So crucify the ego, before it’s far too late
To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical
And you will come to find that we are all one mind
Capable of all that’s imagined and all conceivable.
Just let the light touch you
And let the words spill through
And let them pass right through
Bringing out our hope and reason." Tool - Reflection


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: lysergicasians] * 1
    #13809239 - 01/18/11 04:42 PM (13 years, 12 days ago)

And an old priest said, Speak to us of Religion.

And he said:

Have I spoken this day of aught else?

Is not religion all deeds and all reflection,

And that which is neither deed nor reflection, but a wonder and a surprise ever springing in the soul, even while the hands hew the stone or tend the loom?

Who can separate his faith from his actions, or his belief from his occupations?

Who can spread his hours before him, saying, "This for God and this for myself; This for my soul and this other for my body"?

All your hours are wings that beat through space from self to self.

He who wears his morality but as his best garment were better naked.

The wind and the sun will tear no holes in his skin.

And he who defines his conduct by ethics imprisons his song-bird in a cage.

The freest song comes not through bars and wires.

And he to whom worshipping is a window, to open but also to shut, has not yet visited the house of his soul whose windows are from dawn to dawn.

Your daily life is your temple and your religion.

Whenever you enter into it take with you your all.

Take the plough and the forge and the mallet and the lute,

The things you have fashioned in the necessity or for delight.

For in reverie you cannot rise above your achievements nor fall lower than your failures.

And take with you all men:

For in adoration you cannot fly higher than their hopes nor humble yourself lower than their despair.

And if you would know God, be not therefore a solver of riddles.

Rather look about you and you shall see Him playing with your children.

And look into space; you shall see Him walking in the cloud, outstretching His arms in the lightning and descending in rain.

You shall see Him smiling in flowers, then rising and waving His hand in trees.

--- Kahlil Gibran


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: random_wanderer]
    #13875223 - 01/30/11 05:48 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

:thumbup:


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: circastes] * 1
    #13880630 - 01/31/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)



Bliss is not something to be got.
On the other hand you are always Bliss.
The desire for Bliss is born of the sense of incompleteness.
To whom is this sense of incompleteness?
Inquire. In deep sleep you were blissful.
Now you are not so.
What has interposed between that Bliss and this non-bliss?
It is the ego.
Seek its source and find you are Bliss


- Ramana


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: Chronic7]
    #13880640 - 01/31/11 07:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

The Chronic said:


Bliss is not something to be got.
On the other hand you are always Bliss.
The desire for Bliss is born of the sense of incompleteness.
To whom is this sense of incompleteness?
Inquire. In deep sleep you were blissful.
Now you are not so.
What has interposed between that Bliss and this non-bliss?
It is the ego.
Seek its source and find you are Bliss


- Ramana





I like it!  :levitate:


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: deCypher]
    #13880651 - 01/31/11 07:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

PS and happy birthday!


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: deCypher]
    #13880666 - 01/31/11 07:57 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Cheers man :cool:


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #13896114 - 02/02/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Bo Lozoff said:
"The cause of all our personal problems and nearly all the problems of the world can be summed up in a single sentence:
Human life is very deep, and our modern dominant lifestyle is not."

"Like a child standing in a beautiful park with his eyes shut tight, there's no need to imagine trees, flowers, deer, birds, and sky; we merely need to open our eyes and realize what is already here, who we already are - as soon as we stop pretending we're small or unholy."


"Without loving and caring for others, most of us stand little chance of communing with God/the Divine Wisdom, no matter how many years we may spend in silent prayer."




White Buffalo Calf Woman

Friend do it this way - that is,
whatever you do in life,
do the very best you can
with both your heart and mind.

And if you do it that way,
the Power Of The Universe
will come to your assistance,
if your heart and mind are in Unity.

When one sits in the Hoop Of The People,
one must be responsible because
All of Creation is related.

And the hurt of one is the hurt of all.
And the honor of one is the honor of all.
And whatever we do effects everything in the universe.

If you do it that way - that is,
if you truly join your heart and mind
as One - whatever you ask for,
that's the Way It's Going To Be.


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: HappyTrippin] * 1
    #13926316 - 02/08/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ramana on meditation experiences, awesome stuff

Question : When I meditate I feel a certain bliss at times. On such occasions, should I ask myself `Who is it that experiences this bliss?'
Ramana Maharshi : If it is the real bliss of the Self that is experienced, that is, if the mind has really merged in the Self, such a doubt will not arise at all. The question itself shows real bliss was not reached. All doubts willl cease only when the doubter and his source have been found. There is no use removing doubts one by one. If we clear one doubt, another doubt will arise and there will be no end of doubts. But if, by seeking the source of the doubter, the doubter is found to be really non-existent, then all doubts will cease.

Question : Sometimes I hear internal sounds. What should I do when such things happen?
Ramana Maharshi : Whatever may happen, keep up the enquiry into the self, asking `Who hears these sounds?' till the reality is reached.

Question : Sometimes, while in meditation, I feel blissful and tears come to my eyes. At other times I do not have them. Why is that?
Ramana Maharshi : Bliss is a thing which is always there and is not something which comes and goes. That which comes and goes is a creation of the mind and you should not worry about it.

Question :The bliss causes a physical thrill in the body, but when it disappears I feel dejected and desire to have the experience over again. Why?
Ramana Maharshi : You admit that you were there both when the blissful feeling was experienced and when it was not. If you realize that `you' properly, those experiences will be of no account.

Question : When I reach the thoughtless stage in my sadhana I enjoy a certain pleasure, but sometimes I also experience a vague fear which I cannot properly describe.
Ramana Maharshi : You may experience anything, but you should never rest content with that. Whether you feel pleasure or fear, ask yourself who feels the pleasure or the fear and so carry on the sadhana until pleasure and fear are both transcended, till all duality ceases and till the reality alone remains.

There is nothing wrong in such things happening or being experienced, but you must never stop at that. For instance, you must never rest content with the pleasure of laya (temporary abeyance of the mind) experienced when thought is quelled, you must press on until all duality ceases.

Question : How does one get rid of fear ?
Ramana Maharshi :What is fear ? It is only a thought. If there is anything besides the Self there is reason to fear. Who sees things separate from the Self ? First the ego arises and sees objects as external. If the ego does not rise, the Self alone exists and there is nothing external. For anything external to oneself implies the existence of the seer within. Seeking it there will eliminate doubt and fear. Not only fear, all other thoughts centred round the ego will disappear along with it.

Question : When I try to be without all thoughts, I pass into sleep. What should I do about it?
Ramana Maharshi : Once you go to sleep you can do nothing in that state. But while you are awake, try to keep away all thoughts. Why think about sleep? Even that is a thought, is it not? If you are able to be without any thought while you are awake, that is enough. When you pass into sleep the state which you were in before falling asleep will continue when you wake up. You will continue from where you left off when you fell into slumber. So long as there are thoughts of activity there will also be sleep. Thought and sleep are counterparts of one and the same thing.

We should not sleep too much or go without it altogether, but sleep only moderately. To prevent too much sleep, we must try and have no thoughts or chalana [movement of the mind], we must eat only sattvic food and that only in moderate measure, and not indulge in too much physical activity. The more we control thought, activity and food the more we shall be able to control sleep. But moderation ought to be the rule, as explained in the Gita, for the seeker on the path.

Sleep is the first obstacle, as explained in the books, for all sadhaks. The second obstacle is said to be vikshepa or the sense objects of the world which divert one's attention. The third is said to be kashaya or thoughts in the mind about previous experiences with sense objects. The fourth, ananda [bliss], is also called an obstacle, because in that state a feeling of separation from the source of ananda, enabling the enjoyer to say `I am enjoying ananda', is present. Even this has to be surmounted. The final stage of samadhi has to be reached in which one becomes ananda or one with reality. In this state the duality of enjoyer and enjoyment ceases in the ocean of sat-chit-ananda or the Self.

Question : So one should not try to perpetuate blissful or ecstatic states?
Ramana Maharshi :The final obstacle in meditation is ecstasy; you feel great bliss and happiness and want to stay in that ecstasy. Do not yield to it but pass on to the next stage which is great calm. The calm is higher than ecstasy and it merges into samadhi. Successful samadhi causes a waking sleep state to supervene. In that state you know that you are always consciousness, for consciousness is your nature. Actually, one is always in samadhi but one does not know it. To know it all one has to do is to remove the obstacles.


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    #13961540 - 02/14/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"Nobody lives, nobody dies. Nothingness lives, nothingness dies. You are not. Have a good laugh at this situation. You are not and you exist. You are not and you are. This is the cosmic joke." -Osho


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REVELATION

it's gates's shall not be
shut at all by day
(there shall be
no night there)


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