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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: spinvis]
    #28469989 - 09/15/23 12:40 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Pupul Jayakar; Jiddu Krishnamurti - Krishnamurti: A Biography;
"Understanding of the self only arises in relationship, in watching yourself in relationship to people, ideas, and things; to trees, the earth, and the world around you and within you. Relationship is the mirror in which the self is revealed. Without self-knowledge there is no basis for right thought and action." Nehru asked, "How does one start?" to which Krishnamurti replied, "Begin where you are. Read every word, every phrase, every paragraph of the mind, as it operates through thought."


Gerry Shishin Wick; Hongzhi Zhengjue, Wansong Xingxiu - The Book of Equanimity - CASE 1 - The World-Honored One Ascends the Platform;
"PREFACE TO THE ASSEMBLY

Close the gate and snooze—that’s how to treat a superior person. Reflection, abbreviation, and elaboration are used for middling and inferior ones. How can you stand for someone to ascend the high seat and scowl? If anyone around here doesn’t agree, step forward. I have no doubts about him.

MAIN CASE

Attention! One day the World-Honored One ascended the platform and took his seat. Manjushri struck the sounding post and said: “When you realize the Dharma-King’s Dharma, the Dharma-King’s Dharma is just as is.” At that, the World-Honored One descended from the platform.

APPRECIATORY VERSE

Do you see the true manner of the primal stage?
Mother Nature goes on weaving warp and woof;
the woven old brocade contains the images of spring—
nothing can be done about the Spring God’s (Manjushri) outflowing."


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28469990 - 09/15/23 12:41 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Abū Nuwās - The Wine Song in Classical Arabic Poetry: Abū Nuwās and the Literary Tradition;
"The cup became so thin, the wine, so pure
that they appeared fused into each other; the matter getting confused.
You felt there was just the wine-no cup
or just the cup-no wine"


John Butler - Wonders of Spiritual Unfoldment - 1. How it all Began;
"Please don't imagine I know more than I do. Who can know or understand the Infinite? I fully accept the suppositions that, in general, the less you know - the more you speak, or write about it; and, the more you know - the less you know. I have long hesitated to expose my ignorance by offering these notes for publication. I'm acutely aware that, however great and wonderful the realisation, it is but one glimpse of an infinite beyond.

Let us suppose I'd made a few brief visits to a remote continent. How could I possibly describe her size, her resources, her infinite soul with a few photographs or words? A thousand other travellers would experience her in a thousand different ways. Incomparably vaster are the heavenly realms - immeasurable, and indescribable by human means (2Cor.l2,4). With our own thought we cannot accurately even imagine what lies so obviously beyond us. However, I have more confidence in realisations, which appear from that mysterious realm beyond my control, as a complete surprise and do indeed seem like gifts of Grace. I cannot explain much more than this, and feel safer not to try, but would rather let these windows speak simply for themselves.

Realisation is not a personal attainment; on the contrary, it usually comes at times of deep prayer or quietness when the mind is clear of personal "me". Then, being more able to receive what's given, we may suddenly realise a completely new level of awareness. It's a bit like when, on ascending a hill, unexpected views appear - they are not thought, or remembered, or believed - but seen. This may happen outwardly in the visible, worldly sense, or inwardly in mind and heart. What is this hill? It is oneself, and what changes is one's point of view, or level of consciousness. Realisation is both of the view seen, but also of the viewer, the witness, the one who sees - realising who and what that is. How does it happen? By our own efforts, we can only present ourselves as cleanly and attentively as possible - wait upon the Lord, and watch, and pray (Mat.26,41). Realisation comes, not at our bidding but, as it were, from the other side, like sunshine breaking through the cloud, or screen, of our ordinary, impure and dim perception (1Cor.13,12).

This spiritual sunshine is Grace. All poets know how poems appear unexpectedly in the mind - a gift, we say, of our muse. Poetry, vision, realisation - all forms of inspiration - are grades of the same process, which is Providence itself, appearing not only in words and insight but as abundance of "Every good and perfect gift" (Ja.1,17).

In general, these descriptions have arisen spontaneously but following deep prayer. They appear without thought or preparation, as attention surfaces, when mind begins to function again and when memory of the experience is still clear. They are not apparently related to anything I've learnt elsewhere, and require only to be written down. As such, they seem to have an authenticity of their own. I claim no credit for these windows - I feel they are a gift to me, and I offer them, not as any sort of teaching, but only so that others also may be encouraged in the work of prayer, their hope of salvation, and of being in heavenly places in our Lord (Eph.2,6)."


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Re: Greatest Spiritual Quotes? [Re: spinvis]
    #28469993 - 09/15/23 12:42 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Byron Katie - Question Your Thinking, Change the World - II ON HEALTH, SICKNESS, AND DEATH;
"For people who are tired of the pain, nothing could be worse than trying to control what can’t be controlled. If you want real control, drop the illusion of control; let life have you. It does anyway. You’re just telling the story about how it doesn’t. That story can never be real. You didn’t make the weather or the sun or the moon. You have no control over your lungs or your heart or your ability to see or walk. One minute you’re fine and healthy, and the next minute you’re not. When we try to be safe, we live our lives being very, very careful; and we wind up having no lives. I like to say, “Don’t be careful; you could hurt yourself.”"


Taigen Dan Leighton, Yi Wu; Honghzhi Zhengue - Cultivating the Empty Field: The Silent Illumination of Zen Master Hongzhi - PRACTICE INSTRUCTIONS - Face Everything, Let Go, and Attain Stability;
"Vast and far-reaching without boundary, secluded and pure, manifesting light, this spirit is without obstruction. Its brightness does not shine out but can be called empty and inherently radiant. Its brightness, inherently purifying, transcends causal conditions beyond subject and object. Subtle but preserved, illumined and vast, also it cannot be spoken of as being or non being, or discussed with images or calculations. Right in here the central pivot turns, the gateway opens. You accord and respond without laboring and accomplish without hindrance. Everywhere turn around freely, not following conditions, not falling into classifications. Facing everything, let go and attain stability. Stay with that just as that. Stay with this just as this. That and this are mixed together with no discriminations as to their places. So it is said that the earth lifts up the mountain without knowing the mountain's stark steepness. A rock contains jade without knowing the jade's flawlessness. This is how truly to leave home, how home-leaving must be enacted."


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    #28470184 - 09/15/23 03:13 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

"If the surface of the soul is not lashed by the storms of passions, if no selfish desires exist to disturb its tranquility, if its waters are not darkened by the reflections of the past, we will see the image of eternal truth mirrored in the deep."
Franz Hartmann


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    #28476766 - 09/20/23 05:18 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

"If one abides in space, the true nature of phenomena, it reveals itself to be enlightened intent."

Longchenpa

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    #28497493 - 10/09/23 11:01 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Daniel Liebert; Jelaluddin Rumi - Rumi: Fragments, Ecstasies - NO LONGER DRUNK, BUT THE WINE ITSELF;
"the gnat 
is in the wine jar 
he is no longer drunk 
he is wine itself 

the ambergris 
sits in the fire 
turning to fragrance 

the grain falls 
under the millstone 
and is lost 
in the measure 

the cat 
is in the gunnysack 
swinging high and low 

the sugar sack is ripped 
spilling sugar 
everywhere

I am so ruined 
with love
that beggar children 
stone me in the alleys 

I am so mad with love 
that madmen say, 
“Be still!” 

this village is so poor 
even the taxman 
doesn’t come here 

I am gone from your world 
where swords clash 
over bread 

I steal pearls 
from a Sultan
not cloth
from the tailor 

I am melting 
in meaningfulness 
like sugar in water

love is the sea 
where intellect drowns 

speak! 
o soul of the soul of the soul 
o face that renders 
every created atom 
articulate with love"


Dr. H. Ramamoorthy, Nome - The Song of Ribhu: Translated from the Original Tamil Version of the Ribhu Gita - Introduction;
"Truth transcends all thought, speech, and the printed word. It transcends all ideas and even silence. It is inconceivable, yet it alone is. As it is the very Being of all, it is known as the Self. 
There are none who know it, and there are none who do not know it. There is nothing that is it, yet nothing that is not it. Those who seek to realize it find it abiding within themselves as the one Self, free of a separate realizer, any notion of an object realized, and all dualism. The Realization of the Self, by which is meant the Absolute Reality, is a matter of Self-Knowledge. . . .
Realization of the Absolute is Realization of the Self. There is no “absolute” apart from the Self, nor is there a “self’ apart from the Absolute. Self-Realization consists of Self-Knowledge and nothing else. It is nothing more or less than unobscured Knowledge of one’s true nature. Such Knowledge is of the nature of direct experience and not a mere assemblage of concepts or anything theoretical in character. Its importance and experiential nature lie in the illimitable freedom, complete happiness, and interminable peace for which all yearn and which are one’s own only when one knows oneself."


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    #28502982 - 10/13/23 09:00 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Muhammad (570-632);
"Do not despise the world, for the world too is God."


H.P. Blavatsky - The Key to Theosophy;
"What is the real object of modern education? Is it to cultivate and develop the mind in the right direction; to teach the disinherited and hapless people to carry with fortitude the burden of life (allotted them by Karma); to strengthen their will; to inculcate in them the love of one's neighbour and the feeling of mutual interdependence and brotherhood; and thus to train and form the character for practical life? Not a bit of it. And yet, these are undeniably the objects of all true education. No one denies it; all your educationalists admit it, and talk very big indeed on the subject. But what is the practical result of their action? Every young man and boy, nay, every one of the younger generation of schoolmasters will answer: "The object of modern education is to pass examinations," a system not to develop right emulation, but to generate and breed jealousy, envy, hatred almost, in young people for one another, and thus train them for a life of ferocious selfishness and struggle for honours and emoluments instead of kindly feeling."


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    #28502983 - 10/13/23 09:01 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Jiddu Krishnamurti;
"Throughout life, from childhood, from school until we die, we are taught to compare ourselves with another; yet when I compare myself with another I am destroying myself."


Pai-Chang (720-814);
"The Sutra says, “To behold the Buddha nature you must wait for the right moment and the right conditions. When the time comes, you are awakened as if from a dream. You realize that what you have found is your own and doesn’t come from anywhere outside.” An ancient patriarch said, “After enlightenment you are still the same as you were before. There is no mind and there is no truth.” You are simply free from unreality and delusion. The ordinary person’s mind is the same as the sage’s, because Original Mind is perfect and complete in itself. When you have arrived at this recognition, please hold on to it."


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    #28502986 - 10/13/23 09:02 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Marcus Aurelius - Meditations;
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."


Fa-Tsang (643-712);
"As for the three universals, first is the universal of one atom pervading the universe: this means that an atom has no inherent nature--it involves all reality in its establishment. Since reality is boundless, so accordingly is the atom. The scripture says, “In all the atoms in the Flower Treasury world, in each atom the universe is seen; jewel lights show Buddhas like clouds gathering. This is the freedom in all fields of the enlightened.” According to this teaching, it should be known that one atom pervades the universe.
Second is the universal of one atom producing infinity. This means that the atom has no essence of its own and its becoming must depend on reality. Since true thusness contains innumerable qualities, the functions arising from reality also have myriad differences. The “Treatise on Awakening of Faith” says, “Real thusness has of its own essence the meaning of eternity, bliss, self, and purity, the meaning of pure, cool, unchanging freedom; it contains innumerable such qualities, so ultimately it has not the slightest lack.“
Therefore the Flower Garland scripture says, “In this Flower Treasury ocean of worlds, whether it be mountains or rivers, down to trees, forests, even a mote of dust, a hair--not one is not in accord with the universe of true thusness, including boundless qualities.” By this teaching it should be known that an atom is at once noumenon and phenomenon, is person and is thing, is ‘“that” and is “this,” is object and is subject, is defiled and is pure, is cause and is effect, is same and is different, is one and is many, is broad and is narrow, is animate and is inanimate, is the three bodies and is the ten bodies.
Why? Since phenomena and noumenon are without interference, phenomenon and phenomenon are without mutual interference. Because things are like this, the ten bodies together perform free functioning; therefore it is only within the purview of enlightening beings with the universal eye. Among the phenomenal characteristics cited, each one again contains the others, includes the others--each contains infinitely multiplied and remultiplied delineations of objects. The scripture says, “The inexhaustible ocean of all teachings is converged on the enlightenment site of a single thing. The nature of things as such is explained by the Buddha: the eye of wisdom can understand this technique.”
Question: According to this explanation, then, in a single atom no principle is not revealed, no phenomenon is not merged, no passage is not explained, no meaning is not conveyed. How can those not cultivating and studying in the present become enlightened at an atom and settle manifold doubts all at once? And in the atom, what is called defilement, what is called purity? What is called real, what is called conventional? What is called birth-and-death, what is called nirvana? What is called the principle of the lesser vehicle, what is called the principle of the greater vehicle? Please give us some definitions and let us hear what we have not yet heard.
Answer: Great knowledge, round and clear, looks at a fine hair and comprehends the ocean of nature; the source of reality is clearly manifest in one atom, yet illumines the whole of being. When myriad phenomena arise, they must be at the same time, in one space--noumenon has no before or after. Why? Because the illusory characteristics of this atom can block the vision of reality, it is defiled; because this atom’s characteristics are empty and nonexistent, it is pure. Because this atom’s fundamental essence is the same as thusness, it is real; because its characteristics are conditionally produced and exist as illusions, it is artificial. Because thoughts of the atom’s characteristics change every moment, it is birth-and-death; because, when we observe the atom in contemplation, the signs of origination and annihilation of the atom’s characteristics are all empty and without reality, it is nirvana. Because the atom’s characteristics, great or small, are all discriminations of the deluded mind, it is affliction; because the essence of the atom’s characteristics is without mental construction, it is the principle of the lesser vehicle; because the nature of the atom has no birth, no destruction, and depends on others for its seeming existence, it is the principle of the greater vehicle.
In this way I explain in brief; if it were said in full, even if all sentient beings had doubts, each different, and questioned the Buddha, the Buddha would simply use the one word “atom” to solve and explain for them. This should be pondered deeply. The scripture says, “The inexhaustible ocean of all truths is expounded in a single word, completely, without remainder.” Based on this teaching it is called the universal of one atom producing infinity.
Third is the universal of an atom containing emptiness and existence. This means that the atom has no intrinsic nature, so it is empty; yet its illusory characteristics are evident, so it is existent. Indeed, because illusory form has no essence, it must be no different from emptiness, and real emptiness contains qualities permeating to the surface of existence. Seeing that form is empty produces great wisdom and not dwelling in birth-and-death; seeing that emptiness is form produces great compassion and not dwelling in nirvana. When form and emptiness are nondual, compassion and wisdom are not different; only this is true seeing.
The Ratnagotra-shastra says, “Bodhisattvas before the Path still have three doubts about this real emptiness and inconceivable existence. The first is that they suspect that emptiness annihilates form and hence grasp nihilistic emptiness. The second is that they suspect that emptiness is different from form and hence grasp emptiness outside of form. The third is that they suspect that emptiness is a thing and hence grasp emptiness as an entity.”
Now I must explain this. Form is illusory form and necessarily does not interfere with emptiness. Emptiness is true emptiness and necessarily does not interfere with form. If it interfered with form, it would be nihilistic emptiness. If it interfered with emptiness, it would be solid form. Since one atom contains true emptiness and inconceivable existence as noted above, we should know that all atoms are also thus. If you realize this principle, you will find that an atom contains the ten directions with no abrogation of great and small; an instant contains the nine time frames, with extension and brevity being simultaneous. That is why we have excellent subtle words with a fine hair showing the complete teaching and why we have extraordinary holy scripture with a mote of dust manifesting the whole of being. It goes far beyond the horizons of speech and thought. It penetrates the trap of words and concepts.
The scripture says, “It is like a huge scripture, as extensive as a billion-world system, existing inside an atom, with the same being true of all atoms. If there is one person with clear wisdom, whose pure eye sees clearly in every way, he breaks open the atom and takes out the scripture for the widespread welfare of sentient beings.” To speak according to the principle, the “atom” represents the false conceptions of sentient beings and the “scripture” is the complete illumination of great knowledge. Since the body of knowledge is boundless, it is said to be as extensive as a billion-world system. In accord with this teaching, it is called the universal of an atom containing emptiness and existence."


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    #28502987 - 10/13/23 09:02 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe - Faust;
"I am part of that power which eternally wills evil and eternally works good."


Jalāl al-Dīn Muḥammad Rūmī;
"There are many ways to search but the object of the search is always the same. Don't you see that the roads to Mecca are all different? . . .The roads are different, the goal one . . . When people come there, all quarrels or differences or disputes that happened along the road are resolved . . .
Those who shouted at each other along the road 'you are wrong' or 'you are an infidel' forget their differences when they come there because there, all hearts are in unison."


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    #28502988 - 10/13/23 09:02 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Simone Weil - Lectures in philosophy;
"Whenever one tries to suppress doubt, there is tyranny."


Bhagavad Gita, XIII, 27-28;
"He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same in all that is, immortal in the field of mortality - he sees the truth.
And when a man sees that the God in himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not himself by hurting others: then he goes indeed to the highest path."


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    #28502989 - 10/13/23 09:03 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Deepak Chopra;
"Be happy for no reason, like a child. If you are happy for a reason, you’re in trouble, because that reason can be taken from you."


Stephen Mitchell - The Enlightened Mind: An Anthology of Sacred Prose;
"The nineteenth-century Hasidic rabbi Menahem Mendel of Kotzk once asked some visiting scholars, “Where does God dwell? They laughed at him and said, “God is everywhere, of course. ‘The whole earth is full of his glory.’” The rabbi shook his head, then said, “God dwells wherever man lets him in.”"


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    #28502991 - 10/13/23 09:03 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

G. Spencer Brown;
"Thus we cannot escape the fact that the world we know is constructed in order to see itself. But in order to do so, evidently it must first cut itself up into at least one state which sees, and at least one other state which is seen."


Shankara (686-718);
"This universe is nothing but Brahman. See Brahman everywhere, under all circumstances, with the eye of the spirit and a tranquil heart. How can the physical eyes see anything but physical objects? How can the mind of the enlightened man think of anything other than Reality?
How could a wise man reject the experience of supreme bliss and take delight in mere outward forms? When the moon shines in its exceeding beauty, who would care to look at a painted moon?
Experience of the unreal offers us no satisfaction, nor any escape from misery. Find satisfaction, therefore, in the experience of the sweet bliss of Brahman. Devote yourself to the Atman and live happily forever.
O noble soul, this is how you must pass your days--see the Atman everywhere, fix your thought upon the Atman, the one without a second.
The Atman is one, absolute, indivisible. It is pure consciousness. To imagine many forms within it is like imagining palaces in the air. Therefore, know that you are the Atman, ever-blissful, one without a second, and find the ultimate peace. Remain absorbed in the joy which is silence.
This state of silence is a state of entire peace, in which the intellect ceases to occupy itself with the unreal. In this silence, the great soul who knows and is one with Brahman enjoys unmingled bliss forever.
To the man who has realized the Atman as his true being and who has tasted the innermost bliss of the Atman, there is no more excellent joy than this state of silence, in which all cravings are dumb.
No matter what he is doing--walking, standing, sitting, or lying down--the illumined seer whose delight is the Atman lives in joy and freedom.
When a great soul has found perfect tranquility by freeing his mind from all distracting thoughts and completely realizing Brahman, then he no longer needs sacred places, moral disciplines, set hours, postures, directions, or objects for his meditation. His knowledge of the Atman depends upon no special circumstances or conditions.
In order to know that a jar is a jar, are any special conditions required? Only that our means of perception, the eyes, shall be free from defect. This alone reveals the object.
The Atman is eternally present. It is revealed by transcendental experience, which is not dependent upon place, time, or rituals of self-purification.
I do not require any special condition or proof in order to know my own name. Similarly, for a knower of Brahman, the knowledge that “I am Brahman” does not require any proof.
The Atman, shining with its own light, causes this apparent universe. But how can anything in this universe reveal the Atman? Apart from the Atman, these appearances are worthless, bodiless, unreal.
The Vedas, the Puranas, all scriptures and all living creatures only exist because the Atman exists. How then can any of them reveal the Atman, which is the revealer of everything?
This Atman shines with its own light. Its power is infinite. It is beyond sense-knowledge. It is the source of all experience. He who knows the Atman is free from every kind of bondage. He is full of glory. He is the greatest of the great.
The things perceived by the senses cause him neither grief nor pleasure. He is not attached to them. Neither does he shun them. Constantly delighting in the Atman, he is always at play within himself. He tastes the sweet, unending bliss of the Atman and is satisfied.
The child plays with his toys, forgetting even hunger and physical pain. In like manner, the knower of Brahman takes his delight in the Atman, forgetting all thought of “I” and “mine.”
He gets his food easily by begging alms, without anxiety or care. He drinks from the clear stream. He lives unfettered and independent. He sleeps without fear in the forest or on the cremation- ground. He does not need to wash or dry his clothes, for he wears none. The earth is his bed. He walks the highway of Vedanta. His playmate is Brahman, the everlasting.
The knower of the Atman does not identify himself with his body. He rests within it, as if within a carriage. If people provide him with comforts and luxuries, he enjoys them and plays with them like a child. He bears no outward mark of a holy man. He remains quite unattached to the things of this world.
He may wear costly clothing, or none. He may be dressed in deer or tiger skin or clothed in pure knowledge. He may seem like a madman, or like a child, or sometimes like an unclean spirit. Thus he wanders the earth.
The man of contemplation walks alone. He lives desireless amidst the objects of desire. The Atman is his eternal satisfaction. He sees the Atman present in all things.
Sometimes he appears to be a fool, sometimes a wise man. Sometimes he seems splendid as a king, sometimes feeble-minded. Sometimes he is calm and silent. Sometimes he draws men to him. Sometimes people honor him greatly, sometimes they insult him. Sometimes they ignore him. That is how the illumined soul lives, always absorbed in the highest bliss.
He has no riches, yet he is always contented. He is helpless, yet of mighty power. He enjoys nothing, yet he is continually rejoicing. He has no equal, yet he sees all men as his equals.
He acts, yet is not bound by his action. He reaps the fruit of past actions, yet is unaffected by them. He has a body, but does not identify himself with it. He appears to be an individual, yet he is present in all things, everywhere."


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    #28502992 - 10/13/23 09:04 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Isaac of Nineveh (6th Century);
"There is a love like a small lamp, which goes out when the oil is consumed; or like a stream, which dries up when it doesn’t rain. But there is a love that is like a mighty spring gushing up out of the earth; it keeps flowing forever, and is inexhaustible."


Swami Nikhilananda - The Gospel of Ramakrishna;
"God has made different religions to suit different aspirations, times and countries. All doctrines are only so many paths; but a path is by no means God himself. Indeed we can reach God if we follow any of the paths with whole-hearted devotion. One may eat a cake with icing either straight or sidewise. It will taste sweet either way.
As we can ascend to the top of a house by ladder or bamboo or a staircase or a rope, so diverse are the ways to approach God and every religion shows one of these ways.
People partition off their lands by means of boundaries, but no one can partition off the all-embracing sky overhead. The indivisible sky surrounds all and includes all. So people in ignorance say, “My religion is the only one, my religion is the best.” But when the heart is illumined by true knowledge it knows that above all of these sects and sectarians presides the one indivisible eternal all-knowing bliss.
As a mother, in nursing her sick children, gives rice and curry to one, and sago and arrowroot to another, and bread and butter to a third, so the Lord has laid out different paths for different people."


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    #28502995 - 10/13/23 09:04 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Jan van Ruysbroeck - The Adornment of the Spiritual Marriage;
"In this return in love in the divine ground every divine way and activity and all the attributes of the persons are swallowed up in the rich compass of the essential unity. All the divine means and all conditions, and all living images which are reflected in the mirror of truth, lapse in the onefold and ineffable waylessness beyond reason. Here there is nothing but eternal rest in the fruitive embrace of an outpouring love. This is the dark silence in which all lovers lose themselves."


Julian of Norwich - Revelations of Divine Love;
"Thus I learned that love is our Lord's meaning. And I saw full surely in this and in everything else, that before God made us, he loved us. And that love was never ended nor ever shall be. And in this love he has performed all his actions; he has made all things profitable to us.
And in this love our life is everlasting. In our making we had our beginning: but the love wherein he made us is without beginning . . . And all this shall we see in God without end."


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    #28504436 - 10/14/23 02:51 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

"First get liberated, then everything starts."

paraphrased from Madhusudandas


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    #28504443 - 10/14/23 02:56 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

"I have heard everything you've said to Me."

paraphrased, words of Lord Ram speaking internally to a friend years ago


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    #28504534 - 10/14/23 04:45 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

spinvis said:
Jan van Ruysbroeck - The Adornment of the Spiritual Marriage;
"In this return in love in the divine ground every divine way and activity and all the attributes of the persons are swallowed up in the rich compass of the essential unity. All the divine means and all conditions, and all living images which are reflected in the mirror of truth, lapse in the onefold and ineffable waylessness beyond reason. Here there is nothing but eternal rest in the fruitive embrace of an outpouring love. This is the dark silence in which all lovers lose themselves."


Julian of Norwich - Revelations of Divine Love;
"Thus I learned that love is our Lord's meaning. And I saw full surely in this and in everything else, that before God made us, he loved us. And that love was never ended nor ever shall be. And in this love he has performed all his actions; he has made all things profitable to us.
And in this love our life is everlasting. In our making we had our beginning: but the love wherein he made us is without beginning . . . And all this shall we see in God without end."




Here's my response to this, in the form of quotes:

"What is a God?
What is it to think of something sacred, and larger than us, and infinite, and boundless?
Human history seems to be suffused with this inclination towards a sense of the divine...
We want to believe that there is something more...
We've wanted to connect with this higher power; with this belief that there is something greater than ourselves, something that exceeds our capacity to understand...
And we see gods everywhere; myths and metaphors...
Old gods, new gods, vengeful gods...
They rise and fall with the ebb and flow of all civilization.
For ages, humankind, we've wanted to celebrate what brings us life...
What is this thing that allowed us to emerge?
The sun.
The star, that right there, is the source of all our myths and allegories, and hopes and dreams!
It gave life to the world, gave birth to life!
Its core burns at ten million degrees and it consumes millions of tons of matter per second.
We ourselves are made of remnants of its fallen siblings...
The preconditions for our humanness: that certainly is what God is, right?
Let there be light!
It is larger than a million earths,
It can blind you from millions of miles away;
It has reigned for billions of years, and will shine for billions more...
I think that's kinda fascinating."
- transcript of the video What Is A God? on the melodysheep YouTube-channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_S6DKqcU9M

"The sun? Conscious? Impossible... How?" 'In a way lower organisms like you have difficulty to grasp. One thought from the source takes longer than a human life. A conversation with other stars takes thousands of your years.' "All the stars are conscious?" A dry laughter resounded. 'Of course. They are the original inhabitants of the cosmos. Without them there would be no organic life, let alone organic consciousness.'
- Elian Lazaro, Elysium
https://www.deviantart.com/doolhoofd/journal/Divine-Sunshine-the-Sun-is-God-770910337

"The fact is clear that the Devil was at first considered a God, and was worshiped as such by several nations, including some of the early Christian sects. And the same is true of Jesus Christ and the Devil, that the same titles were applied to each, an evidence that they were both derived in common from the Pagan conception of good and evil, virtue and vice flowing and emanating from the same fountain, which was primordially the sun."
- Kelsey Graves, The Biography Of Satan (pp. 45-47)
https://archive.org/details/MN41552ucmf_4/page/n53

"When I design a toaster oven, I don't design one part that tries to get electricity to the coils and a second part that tries to prevent electricity from getting to the coils. It would be a waste of effort. Who designed the ecosystem, with its predators and prey, viruses and bacteria? Even the cactus plant, which you might think well-designed to provide water fruit to desert animals, is covered with inconvenient spines."
- Eliezer Yudkowsky, An Alien God
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pLRogvJLPPg6Mrvg4/an-alien-god

"Let me give you a little inside information, about God. God, likes to watch. He's a prankster! Think about it: He gives man, instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift - and then what does He do? I swear, for His own amusement, His own private, cosmic gag reel: He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time!"
- John Milton, The Devil's Advocate
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Devil%27s_Advocate_(1997_film)

"Gods prefer simple, vicious games, where you Do Not Achieve Transcendence but Go Straight To Oblivion; a key to the understanding of all religion is that a God's idea of amusement is Snakes and Ladders with greased rungs."
- Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8850-gods-prefer-simple-vicious-games-where-you-do-not-achieve

"Strange a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made every one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths Golden Rules and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, then invents Hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none Himself; who frowns upon crimes yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon Himself; and finally with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship Him!..."
- Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger
https://www.mtwain.com/The_Mysterious_Stranger/10.html

"In the writings of many contemporary psychics and mystics (e.g. Gopi Krishna, Shri Rajneesh, Frannie Steiger, John White, Hal Lindsay, and several dozen others whose names I have mercifully forgotten) there is a repeated prediction that the Earth is about to be afflicted with unprecedented calamities, including every possible type of natural catastrophe from earthquakes to pole shifts. Most of humanity will be destroyed, these seers inform us cheerfully. This cataclysm is referred to, by many of them, as 'the Great Purification' or 'the Great Cleansing,' and is supposed to be a punishment for our sins.
I find the morality and theology of this Doomsday Brigade highly questionable. A large part of the Native American population was exterminated in the 19th century; I cannot regard that as a 'Great Cleansing' or believe that the Indians were being punished for their sins. Nor can I think of Hitler's death camps, or Hiroshima or Nagasaki, as 'Great Purifications.' And I can't make myself believe that the millions killed by plagues, cancers, natural catastrophes, etc. throughout history were all singled out by some Cosmic Intelligence for punishment, while the survivors were preserved due to their virtues. To accept the idea of 'God' implicit in such views is logically to hold that everybody hit by a car deserved it, and we should not try to get him to a hospital and save his life, since 'God' wants him dead.
I don't know who are the worst sinners on this planet, but I am quite sure that if a Higher Intelligence wanted to exterminate them, It would find a very precise method of locating each one separately. After all, even Lee Harvey Oswald - assuming the official version of the Kennedy assassination - only hit one innocent bystander while aiming at JFK. To assume that Divinity would employ earthquakes and pole shifts to 'get' (say) Richard Nixon, carelessly murdering millions of innocent children and harmless old ladies and dogs and cats in the process, is absolutely and ineluctably to state that your idea of God is of a cosmic imbecile."
- Robert Anton Wilson
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/670258-in-the-writings-of-many-contemporary-psychics-and-mystics-e-g



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bed_bug

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[Edited 26/11/2023 to add references]


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    #28506388 - 10/16/23 04:54 AM (3 months, 11 days ago)

"But now I think: This stone is stone; it is also animal, God and Buddha. I do not respect it because it was one thing and will become something else, but because it has already long been everything and always is everything.
I love it just because it is a stone, because today and now it appears to me a stone.
I see value and meaning in each one of its fine markings and cavities, in the yellow, in the grey, in the hardness and the sound of it when I knock it, in the dryness or dampness of its surface.
There are stones that feel like oil or soap, that look like leaves or sand, and each one is different and worships Om in its own way; each one is Brahman.
At the same time it is very much stone, oily or soapy, and that is just what pleases me and seems wonderful and worthy of worship. But I will say no more about it.
Words do not express thoughts very well. They always become a little different immediately they are expressed, a little distorted, a little foolish."


Herman Hesse, Siddhartha.


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    #28507103 - 10/16/23 04:22 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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doolhoofd said:
Here's my response to this, in the form of quotes:

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Lithop already gave you a beautiful response from a amazing book, wether intentionally or unintentionally, and here is my response as well. Decided on this since it's very relevant to all the quotes you posted (surprisingly), and written very clearly. Hopefully without sounding too repetitive (some of these have been posted), so I've opted to include a commentary this time.

Inverse is commentary, first four, you can find the rest online.

40 Rules of Love by Shams Tabrizi;
"Rule 1
How we see God is a direct reflection of how we see ourselves. If God brings to mind mostly fear and blame, it means there is too much fear and blames welled inside us. If we see God as full of Love and compassion, so are we.

Think about this Rule and ask yourself –
How do we see God?
How do we see the World?
How do we see Other Beings?
How do we see our Higher Selves?


Rule 2
The path to the Truth is a labor of the heart, not of the head. Make your heart your primary guide! Not your mind. Meet, challenge, and ultimately prevail over your nafs with your heart. Knowing your ego will lead you to the Knowledge of God.

Nafs means false ego. Overcome the false ego to listen to our hearts. False ego is your real cause of sorrow and bondages to material desires. You are a Spirit Soul of Unconditioned Consciousness.

Rule 3
You can study God through everything and everyone in the universe because God is not confined in a mosque, synagogue, or church. But if you are still in need of knowing where exactly His abode is, there is only one place to look for him: in the heart of a true lover.

God lives in the heart of a true lover. Where there is Love, there is God. To know God, we must listen to the voice of Love coming from our hearts.

Rule 4
Intellect and Love are made of different materials. Intellect ties people in knots and risks nothing, but Love dissolves all tangles and risks everything. Intellect is always cautious and advice, ‘Beware too much ecstasy,’ whereas Love says, ‘Oh, never mind! Take the plunge!’ Intelligence does not easily break down, whereas Love can effortlessly reduce itself to rubble. But treasures are hidden among ruins. A broken heart hides treasures.

I am going to elaborate on this Rule by using a quote from Urdu poet Allama Iqbal,

Knowledge said to me, Love is madness;
Love said to me, Knowledge is a calculation
O slave of calculation, do not be a bookworm!
Love is Presence entire, Knowledge nothing but a Veil.
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