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OfflineGratefulDread
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Tryin out a use for Used Cakes
    #1189567 - 01/04/03 08:33 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

I have 12 PF cakes that have flushed 3 times and no shrooms for a party tonight (overindulgence over the holidays) So I've decided to see just how active the mycellium is.
I'm putting them into a pot with about 12 cups of water and bringing them to a boil then lowering the heat to about half to let them steep for about 30 min.
I'm gonna let the water cool then strain it through a cheese cloth and then a coffee filter to get out most of the impurities
Then I'm gonna use the water to mix up a big ass pitcher of orange juice and let cool in the fridge till i wanna drink it.
I'll post the results tomorrow


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1189576 - 01/04/03 08:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

im interested in finding out


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1189586 - 01/04/03 08:48 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Dude..... you better be careful lol....12 cakes? I made tea from one quart jar before and it kicked me and my wife`s ass... around a level 4 trip... strong visuals.... Hope your sharing that dozen with someone or a few people.


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: Numba9]
    #1189645 - 01/04/03 09:26 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

doesn't heat fuck with the potency? (not that you're losing anything with spent cakes)
will there still be psylocybin in the brew?
incidentally, does anyone know what the active ingredient in liberty caps is ie.. is it psylocybin? or something else...

only everyone I know (including me) makes a brew (tea) from them & if the active ingredient is psylocybin then we are losing potency..no?


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1189678 - 01/04/03 09:39 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Mushrooms (or any of the alkaloids) shouldn't be used "for a party tonight" They should be used to discover what your doing with your life...



-Loop

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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1189888 - 01/04/03 11:08 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Hmmm another elitist shroomer that's a novel idea.

I've been doing mushrooms for about 15 years now and yes i do use them for spiritual awakening and soul searching but I also use them to enhance my interactions with others. Just as wine can be used by christians in their sacraments and also as an intoxicant so too can mushrooms be used twofold.

Using mushrooms and interacting with a group of others who have many different personalities I find also allows me to further understand myself and how I fit into the big scheme of things. If you've only used mushrooms alone to "discover what your doing with your life" you have missed out on the biggest gift mushrooms give us which is the laughter and joy from the sounds and motions of others and the intense feeling of total euphoria from sexual encounters during a mushroom trip.

So if you find that you personally can only or will only do mushrooms for self discovery I actually pity you for missing out on some of the greatest joy you will ever know and for being a lonely lonely person.

This post was put here so I could let others know what I was going to try out and to tell them how my experience was not to advocate how or why I use mushrooms. Coming on this post and throwing in your snide little holier-than-thou comment has brought to mind a visit from a Jehovah's Witness - They believe everyone should believe what they do, they are ill informed of how things happen in real life, and they are annoying.



PS Spell check works

"Mushrooms (or any of the alkaloids) shouldn't be used "for a party tonight" They should be used to discover what you're doing with your life...



-Loop

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Edited by GratefulDread (01/04/03 11:42 AM)


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1190059 - 01/04/03 12:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah heat does fuck with the psilocybin and psilocin.  You will lose substantial amounts of potency during the boiling.  But when you think about it the flame from a lighter breaks down THC in marijuana but people still smoke it.  :grin:

I would go with grinding your cakes up and seeping them in orange juice for a day and then straining.


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1190142 - 01/04/03 01:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

...well said... i agree wholeheartedly...


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: SixCee]
    #1190152 - 01/04/03 01:08 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

im sure the heat has to be a certain degree for the chemical break down of THC and psilocybin, just like certain elements/chemicals have certain melting points


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1191394 - 01/05/03 12:13 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

    Well after steeping for 30 min there was about 8 cups of liquid after straining. Just the perfect amount for a batch of Kool-Aid. I mixed it with some funky berry punch flavour Kool-Aid and a cup of sugar. Drank one cup (8oz) and it had a great flavour sort of a fugged up sweet musty flavour. About 30 min later I was starting into about a lvl 2 trip so I drank another cup to climb higher. Had a very enjoyable high lvl2 / low lvl 3 trip for about the next 4-5 hours with a nice easy come down and no nausea. Felt like about the trip I get from 2-3 grams of the Tapalpa's that the cakes grew. 4 other friends drank 1 cup each and had a very giggly night  and I put the other 2 cups into 4 popsicle molds so I can do them on a later date.

    I recommend trying this out to anyone who has spent cakes and doesn't want to throw them away. Just a caution though take a little at first then work into it because there's no real way to judge exactly how potent your mix will be. Also make sure you have no contaminants on your cakes as getting deathly ill would suck to no end.
:smile:

    And yes I do believe I lost potency from the heat but since it was brought to a boil and then turned low afterwards for the remainder of the 30 min I don't think it was as great a loss as everyone may think. People have been making shroom tea for years and years now and thay seem to be getting high from it so maybe our concept of how much heat changes potency is a little flawed.


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1191466 - 01/05/03 01:57 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

People have been making shroom tea for years and years now and thay seem to be getting high from it so maybe our concept of how much heat changes potency is a little flawed.



Back in the early 70's we used to make shroom tea...we would have shroom tea parties.
There might be a loss of potency when making tea...but you CAN get off from making tea.


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: Roadkill]
    #1191617 - 01/05/03 05:42 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

even if you did have some contams on your cake, that and all other contams present would be killed during boiling, correct?


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: zer0vega]
    #1191767 - 01/05/03 07:40 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The contaminants may be dead but any harmful chemicals left from their demise would still be present.
:smile:


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1191779 - 01/05/03 07:47 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

It's funny how people view Jehovah's Witnesses. I agree that people coming to your door to offer literature when you're not interested is crap, but they're doing what they believe. If you say no, they go away.
My mother belongs to their religion and she's probably the most dedicated 'Christian' I've ever met. They're probably the only religion that actually believe and follow what they say they believe in, as opposed to all these fucking hypochristian organizations out there. I'm not saying they're right or wrong, just letting a view point from a first hand experience be heard.
I hear cake tea takes you for a good ride.  :wink:

Jim


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Edited by EthnoJimmy (01/05/03 07:54 AM)


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1191824 - 01/05/03 08:16 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

thats outstanding news...

that alone will probably sway me to make some cakes instead of all casings...

thanks gratefuldread :wink:


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Re: Tryin out a use for Used Cakes [Re: ribbit]
    #1191840 - 01/05/03 08:22 AM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Try cakes AND casings then. If your casings succeed you'll definitely be glad you decided to go that route.  :grin:

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