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Re: something is wrong... i need some advice.. [Re: okayjose]
    #1190044 - 01/04/03 10:25 AM (21 years, 28 days ago)

okayjose,

You have come to the right place. Rarely have I seen a post in this forum which is so much on topic. Finding purpose in life, breaking apart from loved ones, the meaning of decisions - these are the issues why people are into spirituality, and spirituality has been designed to solve these problems. It might not fit the science and philosophy part of this forum, but the scientists and philosophers could as well go back to their theories and truths, while the spirituality fraction solves some problems. Some very good replies you got there, so let me add mine.

Fortunately, all of your problems have already been solved. The guy who was friendly enough to solve your problems is called Buddha, and he said some smart things. The first thing he discovered is that you are suffering. You are suffering because you don't know what your purpose in life is, you are suffering because you do not want to lose your loved ones, you are suffering because you do not know how to decide. Let me repeat: You are suffering. That is important, because the whole argument rests on the point that you, and everyone else, is suffering. The Buddha said it, and another smart thing he said is that everything is impermanent. The universe is in a constant flux, and everything changes by the minute. It is hard to find something solid enough to build a life purpose on. For example, there was someone they called Christ, and he was another very smart guy. He, too, wanted nothing so much as to end suffering, and to get his point across, he was willing to die a very cruel death. But that, unfortunately, and contrary to his purpose, resulted in two thousand years of hate, violence, and suffering. There's a lesson to be learned here. Oh, and by the way, your girlfriend will die. You will die, too. Everyone you know, including everyone in this forum, will be a rotten corpse with worms crawling through former eyeholes in a couple of years. No one will survive. You better accept that now and save yourself some pain later. (Okay, that was the bad part. It will lighten up now.) The reason why we are suffering is because we are attached to things which are impermanent. What else could result but pain? The way to overcome suffering is to practice non-attachment. Non-attachment leads to a purpose in life, great sex with your girlfriend or the woman of your choice, and true love - love free of envy, jealousy, and possession. According to the buddhist scriptures, it also leads to total freedom and several godlike superpowers, like immortality and telepathy. That leaves us with the problem of decisions. That one is tricky. Non-attachment is not exactly the same as the common "shit happens" attitude. Because, being non-attached, you still care about good and evil. Good and evil are objective. We can measure them with the most precise scientific instrument we ever had - our mind itself. Even if there were no humans in the universe, there would still be good and evil. In a way, there would be nothing else! Some people argue that good and evil only exist relative to each other. That is crap. I increase good and decrease evil every fucking day. Obviously, both are independent of each other. And no one needs to tell you what good and evil is - you just know, because you are human. This makes the choice of decisions an easy one:

Do good. Avoid evil. And better escape your attachment to both.

[Nomad now lurking again]


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OfflineNomad
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Re: something is wrong... i need some advice.. [Re: okayjose]
    #1191634 - 01/05/03 04:04 AM (21 years, 27 days ago)

how can we -not- get attached to some things? how can i not let myself get attached to my friends, or family..

Much like mindfulness, non-attachment is not a decision you make, but an art you practice. It feels weird at first, but normal after some time, and you do not lose anything, but gain a lot.

but isn't it natural to want them to be alive?

Keeping your family alive is good. Non-attachment is not about sitting on mountaintops and chewing on lotus flowers. No real buddhist has ever done that. Non-attachment is about doing good and avoiding evil. But just because you want your family alive does not mean that your family is better off with that attachment of yours. Consider it from a pragmatic viewpoint... your family does not need your attachment, it needs love and care and a helpful hand, and if it is starving, it needs food. Non-attachment will not automatically care for your family, but it will make it easier for you to do the things that have to be done. Because with non-attachment, you have both hands free, instead of dragging all these worries around with you.

i don't have a fear of death, i just don't want to waste my life because i know it will go one day...

You won't.


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