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Anonymous #1
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search warrants, destroying shroom grows
#11888818 - 01/24/10 01:28 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone around me has gotten busted recently.. someone who i would consider a close friend, but we both have closer friends. He has integrity, but when you are facing a couple of years, I have to consider the fact that he might set somebody up to get out of jail time. Although I don't fuck around with hustling anymore, I have at one time, ending 7-8 months ago. I'm worried that he will mention my name, even though its very unlikely for several reasons (he was moving more weight than I was, and i think cops want to know who he was getting it from and I am generally liked by people, and I think most people would rat on someone they don't like). This wouldn't be a problem if I didn't have some very illegal things at my place. My question is: can cops get a warrant simply from someone dropping your name, or do they have to get some controlled buys on you? Like I said, I don't sell anything anymore, nor do I even buy weed for personal stash, so they're not gonna catch me doing anything illegal outside of my house.
Second question. I have often read that police departments grow out syringes and jars in order to prove that the spores/mycelium are in fact that from an illegal species. Is this a necessary procedure for them? If it is required of them, and a search warrant was executed, could one just fuck up the jars somehow in order to ruin the grow? Any suggestions? I was thinking about keeping a knife by my spawn bags and in the event something did happen, I could cut them open and put bleach or something in them. Or tossing them into a tub of dirty water. Of course, this would only work if they did have to grow them out in order to prove they were psilocybin mushrooms. Thanks
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elementswrath
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #1]
#11888834 - 01/24/10 01:33 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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depends on where you live.
where do you live?
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memento18poker
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: elementswrath]
#11890072 - 01/24/10 09:31 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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personally i'd say get rid of all the evidence that you have ever grown, put it in storage or something.
imagine if the cops came round with a warrant and found your stuff... its not worth the risk. someone who knows you grow has got busted and might cut a deal - ITS NOT WORTH THE RISK.
just stop growing for 3 months and bury your shrooms in the garden somewhere in an airtight container. After the heat dies down then grow again if you want to.
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Anonymous #2
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #1]
#11890203 - 01/24/10 10:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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The feds will test out syringes if you have a setup and they will most definitely test mycelium/fruits. If you have a casing going they're obviously going to let it go...
Insofar as worrying about your friend mentioning your name, you should worry. You should worry about the fact he may not even have to mention your name.
Get out while you can. You're not gonna beat a 4am raid with a dozen people with guns pointed at you. You won't have time to piss yourself, and it's fucking scary as fuck.
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kevbo
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows *DELETED* [Re: Anonymous #2]
#11890618 - 01/24/10 11:23 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah bro you should hide your shit!
Edited by kevbo (01/24/10 11:27 AM)
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Anonymous #1
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: kevbo]
#11890623 - 01/24/10 11:24 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Wow you guys just made me nervous lol but the fact is that nobody knows I grow. Unless they can get a warrant from someone saying my name during interrogation (my friend at law school says that is not probable cause). I will not live in fear unless there are legal reasons to, seeing that I am doing something that only I know about, and i stopped doing everything else months ago. If they can't get a warrant, then I'm not worried. This is why I'm trying to get these specific questions angered
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Brennus
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #1]
#11891121 - 01/24/10 01:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Generally, any colonizing jars, harvested fruits, and dry products will be tested in a lab for the presence of psilocybin. Tertiary mycelium will have trace amounts, which is enough to prove you were cultivating.
While a friend ratting you out isn't probable cause, it would be more than enough for me to scrap a current grow or get rid of everything soon after if it was almost finished.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Brennus]
#11892277 - 01/24/10 04:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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When they collect things, std. procedure is to freeze things right away so that when they can be tested, they are in the same condition as when they were taken from your possession.
Mycellium in an air-tight environment will not contain detectable amounts of psilocin or psilocybin. Meaning if they are able to get enough air/oxygen for respiration, they won't make what you want them to make...
But your grow is probably in better shape than what I tried to do. And mine tested negative...
I'd ditch the shit though, for sure, if the guy has any inkling to say your name.
I was interrogated, and they tried to give me immunity for ratting out 'big fish.' I didn't say shit, because I didn't really know any big fish, and I told the interrogator that the glass face-cutting off on LSD example he said to me was from the movie Hannibal, so stfu, I have no info for him.
Anyway, better safe than sorry. way better safe than sorry...
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Anonymous #4
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #3]
#11893689 - 01/24/10 07:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous said: When they collect things, std. procedure is to freeze things right away so that when they can be tested, they are in the same condition as when they were taken from your possession.
Mycellium in an air-tight environment will not contain detectable amounts of psilocin or psilocybin. Meaning if they are able to get enough air/oxygen for respiration, they won't make what you want them to make...
But your grow is probably in better shape than what I tried to do. And mine tested negative...
I'd ditch the shit though, for sure, if the guy has any inkling to say your name.
I was interrogated, and they tried to give me immunity for ratting out 'big fish.' I didn't say shit, because I didn't really know any big fish, and I told the interrogator that the glass face-cutting off on LSD example he said to me was from the movie Hannibal, so stfu, I have no info for him.
Anyway, better safe than sorry. way better safe than sorry...
bull shit when I got raided they where just starting to pin and the evidence against me had huge ass spore laiden mushrooms that where rotting
and they never even asked me for info
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Anonymous #3
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #4]
#11893970 - 01/24/10 07:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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The documentation I received informed me that the procedure in such cases as mine is to freeze the evidence taken so that growth is halted, and the materials they gather at the time of warrant carrying out is the same evidence tested...
That's what the paperwork I obtained had said. Mine were not pinning. I had no air flow, so my myc. was growing super slowly. As such, my things did not grow and every test run came back negative.
But I don't want to go get my things because that'd open a can of worms I don't care to bother with.
I'm playing things clean until I move out of this shit hole city.
Nothin' followin' me.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #3]
#11914352 - 01/27/10 08:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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well, let's just say i'm fucked. didn't find the shroom grow though
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Mr Cyan
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Anonymous #1]
#11921263 - 01/28/10 10:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Explain more...
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ilike_trees
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Re: search warrants, destroying shroom grows [Re: Mr Cyan]
#11921926 - 01/29/10 12:53 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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How long have you been in the game...?
You should know to get out quick when a buddy gets pinched. Guess you gotta learn sometime...
-------------------- Old and in the way
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