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InvisibleAcidDropper420
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how many women have you impregnated?
    #11887928 - 01/23/10 09:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i have gotten a total of 5 preggo incidents, thank god they were down for abortion!(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887932 - 01/23/10 09:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

That's terrible. Pulling out has yet to fail me so zero.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887933 - 01/23/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

none yet...few close calls. ex gf pulling the whole, im prego with ur kid! come back to me! still havent seen a kid 4 years later :rolleyes:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887936 - 01/23/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

the pull out method is still working for me and I'm almost 30

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11887938 - 01/23/10 09:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
Pulling out has yet to fail me so zero.



for sure :thumbup:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887943 - 01/23/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Condoms dude :facepalm:


I had to pickup a morning after pill once, but thats it.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887944 - 01/23/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AcidDropper420 said:
i have gotten a total of 5 women preggo, thank god they were down for abortion!(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.




Damn, haven't you learned to pull out?!


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887945 - 01/23/10 09:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

1 for sure but she mis-carried:dancer: and i pulled out btw.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: deladude]
    #11887949 - 01/23/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Not fast enough.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887950 - 01/23/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

none. i have never been pregnant either.

wait, what?


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: deladude]
    #11887951 - 01/23/10 09:59 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

condoms get expensive when its a multiple daily thing. a 12 pack in 5 days is expensive...


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887955 - 01/23/10 10:00 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

None I hope.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11887965 - 01/23/10 10:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

oopos

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: rawtoxic]
    #11887990 - 01/23/10 10:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm: wow are you fucking kidding me??

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11888010 - 01/23/10 10:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
That's terrible. Pulling out has yet to fail me so zero.




seriously, just pull out, how did OP fuck up so bad? i don't get it.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Hendostan]
    #11888023 - 01/23/10 10:15 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hendostan said:
Quote:

AlmostAsCoolAs said:
That's terrible. Pulling out has yet to fail me so zero.




seriously, just pull out, how did OP fuck up so bad? i don't get it.




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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11888033 - 01/23/10 10:18 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

One in H.S
she kiiled it because she had a bad coke problem :frown:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #11888044 - 01/23/10 10:20 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Acidic_Sloth said:
none. i have never been pregnant either.

wait, what?



I think you actually have to have intercourse in order to get preggo
dont quote me on that though
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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11888068 - 01/23/10 10:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AcidDropper420 said:
i have gotten a total of 5 women preggo, thank god they were down for abortion!(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.




God damn. I'm sorry, but I can't help but lose respect for you after this

one ABORTION should be enough to get you to think. Abortion is for absolute necessity, not recreation


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Coaster]
    #11888073 - 01/23/10 10:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Coaster said:
Quote:

Acidic_Sloth said:
none. i have never been pregnant either.

wait, what?



I think you actually have to have intercourse in order to get preggo
dont quote me on that though
:coaster:



You cant get anyone pregnant either coaster, mostly cuz your "chick" is a dude.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Triptonic]
    #11888080 - 01/23/10 10:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Then why is she always bleedin out her vag :volcano:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Coaster]
    #11888086 - 01/23/10 10:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think you have confused vag. With asshole.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: the bizzle]
    #11888090 - 01/23/10 10:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

seriously wtf is wrong with people. I mean Im no
Quote:

the bizzle said:
Quote:

AcidDropper420 said:
i have gotten a total of 5 women preggo, thank god they were down for abortion!(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.




God damn. I'm sorry, but I can't help but lose respect for you after this

one ABORTION should be enough to get you to think. Abortion is for absolute necessity, not recreation




Yeah wtf is wrong with you?? After 3 you yourself should prolly
have been shot in the head. You are not being truthful anyways so
I guess it doesnt matter.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: G1assjaw]
    #11888198 - 01/23/10 10:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

5 Dames 11x's
:omgz:
I've never added that up tell now!
God i feel awful!
Me and my wife have 2 kids and have had 4Miscarages
My first Fiance had 2 abortion i wasn't told about for many years
My Second Fiance had a Miscarriage the emotional break down that fallowed cost our relationship.
Then had two casual flings both ending in Miscarriage.
Never had very good luck with dames.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: chamberlaindavidd] * 1
    #11888327 - 01/23/10 11:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

1.  My wife. 

Beautiful 2.5 year old daughter to show for it.

OP, I don't know you, but if I were to judge you from just your track record, I think you should be castrated.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: ShockValue]
    #11888347 - 01/23/10 11:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ShockValue said:
I think you should be castrated.




This would indeed help with his problem.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11888375 - 01/23/10 11:27 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

IF he's actually telling the truth... FIVE ABORTIONS by your early twenties!?!?!?!?!

not to be rude, or trolling/flaming or anything, but seriously...if I facepalmed the way this deserves my facial features would be flying out the back of my skull



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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11888427 - 01/23/10 11:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

none.  unfortunately not all the girls in my bang book were knock out 10's but I was pretty safe with all the girls i've ever boinked except for 3.  out of those 3, if any of them ever called me to inform me that she was going to be my baby's mama I would commit suicide immediately.  I've never fucked a girl that i'd be okay with her having my kid.  I guess I need to pick better receptacles for my penis.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11888445 - 01/23/10 11:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

oh_you_know said:
condoms get expensive when its a multiple daily thing. a 12 pack in 5 days is expensive...



babies and abortions are really expensive


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Mchaggis]
    #11888462 - 01/23/10 11:45 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11888477 - 01/23/10 11:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Bshb]
    #11888778 - 01/24/10 01:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:rofl: I just got FLAMED :uhoh:

what can i say pub, i guess i am a potent man :shrug:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: the bizzle]
    #11888792 - 01/24/10 01:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:


i have gotten a total of 5 women preggo, thank god they were down for abortion!(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.




God damn. I'm sorry, but I can't help but lose respect for you after this

one ABORTION should be enough to get you to think. Abortion is for absolute necessity, not recreation




seriously :feelsbadman:

i read in some posts that people don't want to have children because of overpopulation and what not, then i get flamed for not being ready to lock down the responsibility of being a father(However many times the situation presented itself)

and it's not like I demanded abortion! its was all mutual decisions.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11888793 - 01/24/10 01:17 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

None.  Thank god.












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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11888803 - 01/24/10 01:22 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11888983 - 01/24/10 02:44 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Listen to this story. 

My girlfriend's best friend came over to our place a couple of months ago freaking out that she thought she was pregnant.  So my gf said she'd go buy a test and take it with her just for support.  Well turns out the friend wasn't pregnant and my girlfriend was.

We had no idea, total blindside.

So after a few days of no sleep and endless talks, we decided to go to the clinic and see how far along she was.  We agreed that if there was a heartbeat that we would keep it.  The heart starts beating around 5-7 weeks into development, pretty early.

Went and found out she was only about 2 weeks pregnant, so we had the abortion after more discussion.  Neither of us has regretted it.

I would just like to thank my gf's whorish friend for thinking she was pregnant. :thumbup: :sadyes:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889009 - 01/24/10 03:04 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

AcidDropper420 said:
seriously :feelsbadman:

i read in some posts that people don't want to have children because of overpopulation and what not, then i get flamed for not being ready to lock down the responsibility of being a father(However many times the situation presented itself)

and it's not like I demanded abortion! its was all mutual decisions.




Quote:

i read in some posts that people don't want to have children because of overpopulation and what not



:facepalm: that has nothing to do with this, and is no justification



Quote:

then i get flamed for not being ready to lock down the responsibility of being a father



THEN STOP MAKING BABIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dudewtf:

how can you not get the point? FIVE...not one, not two, not three, shit, not even four, but FIVE ABORTIONS :wow:

you are essentially equating people who "don't want to have children because of overpopulation" to murderers. Which is as ridiculous as you will probably think that statement is. (don't get me wrong, abortion has it's place) If you don't want children, DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW CREATES CHILDREN.
Hey, I don't want the responsibility of raising a child right now either, but I'm not gonna go around aborting them like it aint no thang.

ONE abortion, in certain circumstances, could be a responsible or good decision.
TWO abortions, things happen, but you REALLY need to rethink your actions/lifestyle...
FIVE...you are as callously wreckless and irresponsible as it gets.
I still don't even know if I believe you, it's hard to believe anybody could be that... that... I've got no word for it that won't possibly get me banned. But COME ON




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then i get flamed for not being ready to lock down the responsibility of being a father




You, are not ready to lock down the responsibility of having sex.





Quote:

seriously :feelsbadman:




You didn't have abortions for the benefit of the potential child who might grow up to be a :feelsbadman: in a feelsbadman environment,

you had abortions because you are SELFISH (or just plain clueless), whether you realize that or not.
Your own :feelsgoodman: is a lot more important to you than the FIVE [dead]:feelsbadman: that could have been :feelsgoodman:




Now I know that might sound ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as FIVE abortions. As I said, you are not ready for the responsibility of having sex.
And as I also said before, abortion is for necessity, not recreation. One, even two, accidental pregnancies...hey, we're only human, everybody makes mistakes...



but FIVE abortions?...you're killing babies to get your nuts off and not face the consequences.

(Or you have successfully trolled, because this is pretty unbelievable)


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: the bizzle]
    #11889019 - 01/24/10 03:10 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:awebig:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: the bizzle]
    #11889064 - 01/24/10 03:25 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

its not like i murdered children here, they were unborn embryos, and it's  5 isn't so far fetched as you think, thrice with one girl and twice with another.

as for being careless about sex, yes i surely can admit to that.

but if you truly knew me, you'd know i'm not a perfect person :rofl:

sorry if i offended you with my personal mishaps.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889080 - 01/24/10 03:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Pulling out have saved me time and time again...sides if i bring a kid into this world he's gonna be a daemon spawn ><


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889083 - 01/24/10 03:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No.






































































































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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #11889084 - 01/24/10 03:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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AlmostAsCoolAs said:
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zSDMF said:
Quote:

Mchaggis said:
Quote:

oh_you_know said:
condoms get expensive when its a multiple daily thing. a 12 pack in 5 days is expensive...



babies and abortions are really expensive




seriously are you faggot fucks actually saying you don't use condoms because they cost money?  I get mine for free at the health department they don't ask questions or any of that.  hell i'm a regular visitor for their free condoms and i've yet to be told no.  "condoms cost too much money so I don't use them," what a crock of fucking shit.  I hope your dick falls off after it drips puss for a month and turns black.



First of all, condoms take away most of the pleasure, I'm sorry you can't find anyone disease free to experience this with but it's a lot fucking better. Second, I would be walking in for more condoms every few days if I did that, not gonna happen. I hope your dick falls off from restricted blood flow.




.. first off I thought it was kind of a given that if you were with someone for a longer amount of time and were sure that you guys were sexually mutual having sex without a condom is understandable.  anything shy of a monogymous relationship with a clean test on hand warrants use of a condom if you respect yourself or the person you are having sex with.  if you don't use condoms you may be dirty and you may be spreading your filth to others.  even if you aren't dirty why you give little miss igotacooter the benefit of being clean is beyond me; girls lie just like guys do to get laid and what they want.

it's the peoples job at the health clinic to promote safe sex in every way including giving out free condoms.  so many people go there and get free condoms its redic.  all that they ask is you don't take more than you'd use.  so what you're saying is the same dumb ass ego that doesn't wear condoms because they "take away from the experience," won't allow you to walk in a place that exists essentially to aid you in your sexual escapades which includes providing free condoms to the community?


yeah let's have a bet on who's dick falls off first yours or mine.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889101 - 01/24/10 03:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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(don't hate me for not wanting children in my late teens and early 20's.)

your turn.



Well THAT just made me think less of you.

I don't hate you for not wanting children. I disrespect you for not using a goddamn condom.


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    #11889109 - 01/24/10 03:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

THREE times with one girl??

:facepalm:

abortion does not = birth control


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abortion does not = birth control




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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: yogabunny]
    #11889116 - 01/24/10 03:47 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

you are now stating points of previous posts.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889126 - 01/24/10 03:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well the thing that is blowing my mind is that you seem to be proud of it

"well i must be super fertile" (nah, you're just a little more than a primate with no self control apparently)

at least have some reverence for the natural process you "interrupted" 5 times.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889130 - 01/24/10 03:53 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

OK then, if all 5 were to 2 women (long term partners)  - what about the pill? Depo Provera? Contraceptive foam? ANYTHING?

Also, much *yuck* to the spineless women involved, too.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889138 - 01/24/10 03:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #11889141 - 01/24/10 03:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

.

Edited by Prisoner#1 (01/24/10 11:42 AM)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889142 - 01/24/10 03:58 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: yogabunny]
    #11889149 - 01/24/10 04:06 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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well the thing that is blowing my mind is that you seem to be proud of it

"well i must be super fertile" (nah, you're just a little more than a primate with no self control apparently)

at least have some reverence for the natural process you "interrupted" 5 times.





i'm not proud of it, nor am i ashamed because you are angered by it:shrug:

basiclly my explanation for this is shit happens, and these people and I weren't ready to commit to eachother for that long and a child.

plus it not like everytime i have sex i don't wrap up either, i was with the both woman for around 2-3 years, alot can happen in that time with somebody..

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889156 - 01/24/10 04:10 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11889164 - 01/24/10 04:14 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

easy tiger, if your so upset change your tampon and make use of the ignore feature


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889165 - 01/24/10 04:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just two.

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    #11889172 - 01/24/10 04:17 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11889177 - 01/24/10 04:19 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm sure there is worse then me my friend:sadyes:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889187 - 01/24/10 04:23 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah i'm sure, but how many are dumb enough to brag about it?  go to a bar and start telling the bros about how you were with this one chick and she had 3 abortions and then you were with at least one other girl and she had 2 mroe abortions.  make sure you tell them they had abortions because you weren't your deemed appropriate age for procreation.  oh yeah thats right I know you'd never have the balls to do something like that because you'd get your shit beat every time you did.  people like you don't have the balls to stand up and take responsibility for what they do

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    #11889190 - 01/24/10 04:24 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

tell me somemore things about me i don't know!


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    #11889192 - 01/24/10 04:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

yeah bro you go ahead and keep on talking with this thread you've already proven your secrets are wayyyyy cooler than mine

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11889194 - 01/24/10 04:27 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

atleast it got some conversation going

:yawn:



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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889196 - 01/24/10 04:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i gotta say
"AcidDropper" only further increases my conviction that LSD is not all that ego-shattering or enlightening

:shrug:  I mean i don't know how much acid you've actually dropped, or not...but damn boy :nonono: :picard:


I'm not trying to outright dis you like you dissed those 5 embryos, but seeing this somehow helps me, so i thank you

but please, try to get over yourself a little. Being alive is a responsibility, and you are more selfish than you realize. It doesn't matter if the girls were lost enough to think it was OK, it's not. Somehow I know that is more than just my personal opinion. FIVE abortions is ridiculous. No, it's a lot worse than ridiculous


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11889198 - 01/24/10 04:28 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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MisterMuscaria said:
Quote:

efrog said:

Also, much *yuck* to the spineless women involved, too.




Ive been trying my hardest not to speak my piece on this matter.

Im a little grey on the topic of abortion in general, although I used to be strongly against it I now see where in certain circumstances it might be appropriate.

People who see an abortion as just a regular thing to do because they refuse to be responsible sicken me to my stomach.

I remember there was this cute girl in HS who liked me, then when she bragged about having 3 abortions I felt completely disgusted and turned off by her.
Who has 3 abortions by the time they are 16?




I think it might be lies...is that possible?

Sounds like a pathetic attention grab. Like "I give it up, the proof is that I've been pregnant, please like me???"

Maybe that's possible? I don't know - but it's sad either way.

I am not about to make other peoples' moral or ethical decisions for them - and I think that sometimes, abortion is a necessary fact.

However, it's not meant to be a stand-in for "I'm to stupid to realise/irresponsible to care  that sex = babies" and that makes me angry.

I've considered abortion once, seriously. We had twin baby boys who I was still feeding and so we were using condoms. One broke. However, I thought "no way I am pregnant" but thankfully I was sober because I was breastfeeding twins, so no droogz/limited wine - and anyway, a few months later, when the twins were about 9 months old I found out I was pregnant - as I had a test because we were going away for my Birthday and I knew I would drink and maybe smoke some hash, and I wanted to make sure I wasn't PG just in case. Well I was. (You often don't have a monthly cycle when you're breastfeeding)

I considered abortion. I did. Because I was stretched to my capacity (or so I thought) mentally and physically with the twins. Then the following week I found out I was nearly 4 months pregnant. lol. So the whole thought of abortion went "poof!!"

So I can understand thinking about it and when it is necessary - but I don't agree with it as a matter of course.

Result, 2 year old Rhiannon:


The most awesome accident of my life.

and for fun, lol, one of my twins on a Christmas morning chocolate high:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889200 - 01/24/10 04:33 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

They are beautiful! :heart:

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889203 - 01/24/10 04:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Awww such cute kids!
I agree with about everything youve said, but it turned out after that the same girl got several more abortions and ended up in the 5+ range. I think she even eventually became infertile because of it.
Now she's in her 20s and married but cant have kids though she finally wants to.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889206 - 01/24/10 04:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

@ Mister :frown: That's so sad. :frown:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #11889208 - 01/24/10 04:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

We can only hope the RP becomes infertile as well.
Thats one gene pool that needs to dry the fuck up.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11889216 - 01/24/10 04:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

LOL at this thread...efrog ...:heart: to you and your children(twins? + 1):congrats: :waits: for my grandbaby... HERE .... and . :peace:(to all)


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: vinsue]
    #11889220 - 01/24/10 04:43 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

3... I has many nuts.. :vaped:


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    #11889247 - 01/24/10 05:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Zero, and it will stay that way for a long time

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@ Mister :frown: That's so sad. :frown:
Quote:

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LOL at this thread...efrog ...:heart: to you and your children(twins? + 1):congrats: :waits: for my grandbaby... HERE .... and . :peace:(to all)



I can't find the photo....CONGRATULATIONS!

edit:
Oh I'm a numpty! I scrolled right on by the post, looking for PHOTOS!
LOL!

Now I am  :waits: too.

Yes, twin boys, who are 3 and a half and a little girl who turned 2 in October. They're 14 months apart.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11889547 - 01/24/10 06:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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atleast it got some conversation going

:yawn:



night:peace:



I'd say more it got some disgust going.

I hope it also got some *thought* going.

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    #11889577 - 01/24/10 07:09 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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oh_you_know said: condoms get expensive




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    #11890519 - 01/24/10 11:07 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

yogabunny said:
well the thing that is blowing my mind is that you seem to be proud of it

"well i must be super fertile" (nah, you're just a little more than a primate with no self control apparently)

at least have some reverence for the natural process you "interrupted" 5 times.





i'm not proud of it, nor am i ashamed because you are angered by it:shrug:

basiclly my explanation for this is shit happens, and these people and I weren't ready to commit to eachother for that long and a child.

plus it not like everytime i have sex i don't wrap up either, i was with the both woman for around 2-3 years, alot can happen in that time with somebody..

but flame away. i like controversial conversation.




hmmm.....im not flaming, but i am just appalled!

with all the birth control methods available to us.....i just don't get it.....


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11890533 - 01/24/10 11:08 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

efrog, ZZZZZZZOMG your little ones are ADORABLE.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: yogabunny]
    #11890633 - 01/24/10 11:27 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Its going to be very unfortunate when this Don Juan actually does father something.

The little pip won't even have a chance....

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    #11890691 - 01/24/10 11:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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i gotta say
"AcidDropper" only further increases my conviction that LSD is not all that ego-shattering or enlightening

:shrug:  I mean i don't know how much acid you've actually dropped, or not...but damn boy :nonono: :picard:


I'm not trying to outright dis you like you dissed those 5 embryos, but seeing this somehow helps me, so i thank you

but please, try to get over yourself a little. Being alive is a responsibility, and you are more selfish than you realize. It doesn't matter if the girls were lost enough to think it was OK, it's not. Somehow I know that is more than just my personal opinion. FIVE abortions is ridiculous. No, it's a lot worse than ridiculous




AMEN!!!!!!!

I think abortions are the right thing to do sometimes, but having 5 is just abuse. You know, having an abortion takes quite a bit of psychological toll on the woman, regardless of whether they want it or not...


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Neuron]
    #11890704 - 01/24/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Dont be a dummy dump it on her tummy! 


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11890730 - 01/24/10 11:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I impregnated 2. One of them by accident and I pay support and all that, and the other my wife 2 times. I <3 my kids!


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    #11890771 - 01/24/10 11:57 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: yogabunny]
    #11890784 - 01/24/10 11:59 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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efrog, ZZZZZZZOMG your little ones are ADORABLE.

:happyheart:



Awww thanks!

It's because they're made of love, rainbows, light and cinnamon-sugary butter! :laugh:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11890802 - 01/24/10 12:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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i'm just going to chime in here as devil's advocate.

so what if guy had 5 abortions? why do you care? what business is it of yours?  why do you get so butt hurt over the private decisions of two consenting adults? 

its an embryo not a person.

if sarah wants to have 1000 abortions and scar the shit out of uterus, NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS she is in charge of her own body,  including her undeveloped embryos.


why dont you go cry and shit over some baby sea turtles getting eaten by predators?


I know you think you have some moral superiority on this one,  but it is only your imagination.

what i find immoral is that you guys think that the guy should only act and do what YOU think he should regardless of what he or the girl wants.

you must never wank it either then because you're killing all those innocent sperm that don't get to grow up to be people.

do you weep when your girl ovulates for the loss of potential life?

lets just impregnate every sperm and egg on earth so we can be morally content.

never mind the loss of quality of life, overpopulation and under cared for kids.


seriously pull the anti-abortion pole out of your arse, it makes you look like a high strung religous nutjob.

it's not your body.




Hey! Read the thread.

People weren't going all crazy about having an abortion.

They were feeling disgusted at wiping out potential human beings as a form of birth control.

I think you just disagree with peoples' opinions on the matter - and that, does not a good devil's advocate make.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11890846 - 01/24/10 12:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Making multiple woman go through having abortions because your irresponsible is horrible. Sure your killing a potential human being and thats fucked up anyways, but what about the emotional and physical scars these woman went through because of it? Fucked up.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11890848 - 01/24/10 12:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

everyone always trusts the pullout method when i've heard from both my father and older brother that this infact DOES NOT work. Plus it feels so good to bust inside.. why pullout? I've always trusted the birthcontrol and if i couldnt trust the bitch id use a condom.

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    #11890870 - 01/24/10 12:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I just love the sexism :thumbdown:. Why do they have to be "bitches"? And how do you get woman to have sex with you talking about them that way?


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Kada]
    #11890885 - 01/24/10 12:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

just slang, get off my nuts.

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    #11890892 - 01/24/10 12:23 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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    #11890900 - 01/24/10 12:25 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Pulling out has yet to fail me so zero.



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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11890926 - 01/24/10 12:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hey! Read the thread.

People weren't going all crazy about having an abortion.

They were feeling disgusted at wiping out potential human beings as a form of birth control.

I think you just disagree with peoples' opinions on the matter - and that, does not a good devil's advocate make.

You are hereby fired from devil's advocacy.

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:satan:

don't condoms prevent potential life too? its just a different form of birth control.  pills, patches, condoms... abortions they all prevent potential people.

you've got to be vegetarian then too cuz meat is murder! absolutely disgusting!

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Kada]
    #11890937 - 01/24/10 12:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I just love the sexism :thumbdown:. Why do they have to be "bitches"? And how do you get woman to have sex with you talking about them that way?





'cuz dem bitches are hos

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    #11890946 - 01/24/10 12:32 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Making multiple woman go through having abortions because your irresponsible is horrible. Sure your killing a potential human being and thats fucked up anyways, but what about the emotional and physical scars these woman went through because of it? Fucked up.




forcing girl = illegal.
consenting girl = fine.

also, what if an unwanted child causes emotional and/or physical scars, where an abortion could prevent that?

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i have gotten a total of 5 preggo incidents, thank god they were down for abortion




baby are you down down down down down?

not all girls are that fragile

you're spilling your seed when you wank.  all that potential life is lost

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11890951 - 01/24/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

efrog: Your kids are adorable!!!  I can't wait to have my own!

vinsue:  Looking forward to seeing your new grandaughter!  Hope things go smoothly! :grin:  :heart::heart::heart:

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11890954 - 01/24/10 12:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not sure you have a competent grasp of the situation - or logic.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11890955 - 01/24/10 12:34 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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any of you who eat anything are fucking disgusting murderous bastards!





you had me up until this point... what about the people that eat dirt

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11890972 - 01/24/10 12:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Dudeyourgone said:
everyone always trusts the pullout method when i've heard from both my father and older brother that this infact DOES NOT work. Plus it feels so good to bust inside.. why pullout? I've always trusted the birthcontrol and if i couldnt trust the bitch id use a condom.



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Quote:

efrog said:

Hey! Read the thread.

People weren't going all crazy about having an abortion.

They were feeling disgusted at wiping out potential human beings as a form of birth control.

I think you just disagree with peoples' opinions on the matter - and that, does not a good devil's advocate make.

You are hereby fired from devil's advocacy.

Yours, :satan:




:satan:

don't condoms prevent potential life too? its just a different form of birth control.  pills, patches, condoms... abortions they all prevent potential people.

you've got to be vegetarian then too cuz meat is murder! absolutely disgusting!

but plants are life too! any of you who eat anything are fucking disgusting murderous bastards!





Oh my fucking god.

The debate is not abortion. Or birth control.

The debate is abortion AS birth control.

No one is saying birth control is right or wrong or that abortion is right or wrong.

People are saying "wtf! You don't use abortion as birth control!"


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    #11890984 - 01/24/10 12:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well why is it wrong to have an abortion but not to use contraception?

the purpose is the same; to prevent unwanted children.

i'm saying that abortion is not wrong as birth control 100 times or more if both parties are consenting.  no more than if you have sex with other birth control 100 times or more.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11890998 - 01/24/10 12:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

No, I was completely misunderstood.

I think abortions are 100% okay and fine *as a last resort(say the condom broke), what I was getting at is the psychological trauma a woman goes to when giving up her undeveloped child. It stays with her for the rest of her life. "Hmmm, I wonder what he would be like if I had him, he'd be about 15 years old by now..."


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891021 - 01/24/10 12:47 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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well why is it wrong to have an abortion but not to use contraception?

the purpose is the same; to prevent unwanted children.



If you really cannot see that, then we have bigger problems than this thread.

Keeping eggs from ripening - so the sperm never enter them or keeping sperm from meeting the eggs is not equivalent to scraping and sucking a human being out of another human being.

I am not here to debate when an embryo has a soul or is alive, or whatever because regardless of the answer to those questions - the "pill" or a condom, or things that make you not even ovulate at all are not things which damage peoplementally and physically more often than not.

In order to cause an abortion, there are many things that happen, depending on the stage of the pregnancy.

None of these are good for the Mother at all, it's painful as fuck (had a miscarriage - same procedure, as far as removal of the tissue).

After the meds given, in the cases where they are used, the cervix is dilated and the child is cut up, scraped away from the uterine lining, removed bit by bit, where necessary, and then sucked out through a hose.

You tell me the difference between that and never allowing the egg to exist or the sperm to come in contact with it.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Neuron]
    #11891025 - 01/24/10 12:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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No, I was completely misunderstood.

I think abortions are 100% okay and fine *as a last resort(say the condom broke), what I was getting at is the psychological trauma a woman goes to when giving up her undeveloped child. It stays with her for the rest of her life. "Hmmm, I wonder what he would be like if I had him, he'd be about 15 years old by now..."




this is defenitely true with a lot of women,  i think it has some to do with the hormones and general "dreaminess" of it all.  funny how probly most of those women wouldnt think twice if that same life was cut off with the pill or IUD or something...


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11891038 - 01/24/10 12:51 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Oh and for the record: I am not against abortion. I realise there are times where it is necessary and even the best solution - but it's not something I see as a "well no worries! If I get pregnant, I'll just get an abortion!"


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891049 - 01/24/10 12:53 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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well why is it wrong to have an abortion but not to use contraception?

the purpose is the same; to prevent unwanted children.

i'm saying that abortion is not wrong as birth control 100 times or more if both parties are consenting.  no more than if you have sex with other birth control 100 times or more.





wow... you're comparing a drug that fools your body into thinking it's
pregnant in order to prevent conception/pregnancy to an invasive
medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy well after conception

I hope you dont wait until your engine seizes up to consider an oil change

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11891057 - 01/24/10 12:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Realize that shins is the same person that said rape isn't a big deal, and it's probably the woman's fault anyway.

He's likely a sociopath.  I doubt you'll get very far trying to convince him of anything.

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    #11891075 - 01/24/10 12:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

@Both: re the kidlets: Thanks! :laugh: You can usually see Sindre's eyes, though - just thought that photo was hilarious!

Re shins: I've given that up as a lost cause.

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    #11891100 - 01/24/10 01:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think I saw a hint of blue.  They're both absolutely adorable!

I'm dying to have my own.  Maybe I could take one of them off you hands for you? :tongue2:

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891170 - 01/24/10 01:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i guess it's that i dont consider an embyo a person yet :shrug:

getting an operation, or hormonal treatments,  both "unnaturally" change your body with the intent of preventing birth.

abortions are mire serious and painful most of the time yeah, but the intentions are both the same.

i see an embyo as still part of the women's body like hormones are, not a person of it's own until it's at least got a brain and a heart.

What about plan B then?  since the egg has been fertilized already is plan B as bad as abortion?

I tend to weigh intent more than i do method, or semantics on defining when an embryo is a person.

that said,  i don't judge whether one person's intentions are right or wrong in their case.


:shrug: guess i just don't like people who want to tell others what to do with thier own bodies, or beat them up if they don't like it.

kinda like the cops with drug users

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891217 - 01/24/10 01:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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i guess it's that i dont consider an embyo a person yet :shrug:

getting an operation, or hormonal treatments,  both "unnaturally" change your body with the intent of preventing birth.

abortions are mire serious and painful most of the time yeah, but the intentions are both the same.




operations like a hysterectomy or tubal ligation are generally done for
medical reasons and they tend to be permanent, preventing pregnancy from
ever occurring abortions dont qualify for pregnancy prevention, 'hormone
therapy' as you call it doesnt alter the body, it alters the chemistry,
something that can happen naturally for many reasons other than
pregnancy, again it's used for the prevention of pregnancy, not to
prevent birth which is what abortions are for


Quote:

What about plan B then?  since the egg has been fertilized already is plan B as bad as abortion?






what about plan A, responsible sexual habits or plan C, not fucking


Quote:

I tend to weigh intent more than i do method, or semantics on defining when an embryo is a person.





you're still not acknowledging that their intent was that pregnancy
prevention is far superior than birth prevention, it's not a discussion
about when does life start


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:shrug: guess i just don't like people who want to tell others what to do with thier own bodies, or beat them up if they don't like it.





do you pull this stuff right out of the air? this hasnt been the argument

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    #11891219 - 01/24/10 01:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Realize that shins is the same person that said rape isn't a big deal, and it's probably the woman's fault anyway.

He's likely a sociopath.  I doubt you'll get very far trying to convince him of anything.




here goes the rape thing yeah.  i do think that some women sometimes do put themselves at higher risk of getting raped and deserves some blame.  just as if i walked through a minefield i put myself at risk of getting blown up.  I'm also for helping women move on from rape incidents, not coddling them entirely and encouraging the victim mentality, but i can see how a lot of guys would like to play the hero in that regard.

I guess i just like pointing out things people tend to ignore because its inconvenient, unpopular, or controversial. 

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    #11891243 - 01/24/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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I think I saw a hint of blue.  They're both absolutely adorable!

I'm dying to have my own.  Maybe I could take one of them off you hands for you? :tongue2:



LOL! Maybe you could pull them from my cold, dead fingers. Maybe. <g>

Yeah, they're totally blue. If I didn't think it was a bit attention-whorish, I would totally post one of him not looking like a stoned cheshire cat. Maybe I'll pm ya. :wink:

You'll love having kids! It's FUN! (and hard, and trying and sometimes frustrating - but mostly, fun!)

I'm not telling you that to trap you (you know like - we're miserable because kids suck and we got conned into having them, so come and have kids too lol!), either - I really mean it.

No matter what happens (arsey husband, money, me just being :crankey:, whatever) they always bring the :lol: back to my face.

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    #11891261 - 01/24/10 01:37 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i completely agree that preventing an egg from fertilizing is far superior to abortion,  although,  i don't believe it is my right to tell someone else that they are a horrible person if they get abortions. 

like i say, if both parties consent its no reason to want to fight them or call them names in my books. 

maybe i've just been put off by all the fanatic anti-abortion people protesting, killing doctors and trying to change the law.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
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Realize that shins is the same person that said rape isn't a big deal, and it's probably the woman's fault anyway.

He's likely a sociopath.  I doubt you'll get very far trying to convince him of anything.




here goes the rape thing yeah.  i do think that some women sometimes do put themselves at higher risk of getting raped and deserves some blame.  just as if i walked through a minefield i put myself at risk of getting blown up.  I'm also for helping women move on from rape incidents, not coddling them entirely and encouraging the victim mentality, but i can see how a lot of guys would like to play the hero in that regard.

I guess i just like pointing out things people tend to ignore because its inconvenient, unpopular, or controversial. 

honestly,  if my ratings were 5/5 i'd feel like i never tried to entice, debate or challenge anything.




If my ratings were 1/5 id feel like maybe i was being a douchebag. :shrug:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Kada]
    #11891284 - 01/24/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ive done my fair share of trolling and being a jerk and still have decent ratings. You REALLY have to be an ass to get 1/5.

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    #11891298 - 01/24/10 01:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Coaster said:
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Acidic_Sloth said:
none. i have never been pregnant either.

wait, what?



I think you actually have to have intercourse in order to get preggo
dont quote me on that though
:coaster:



You cant get anyone pregnant either coaster, mostly cuz your "chick" is a dude.




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If my ratings were 1/5 id feel like maybe i was being a douchebag. :shrug:




That.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Kada]
    #11891347 - 01/24/10 01:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well i had 5/5 ratings till it was ironically ratings raped by the rape comment...  really, does everyone always have to agree?  why can't I point out things that might be uncomfortable to people?  Do i really just have to happily take the median and say popular/easy/comfortable things all the time.....?

yeah well i guess it might make me look like a douche bag sometimes but i'm ok with that.  The internet kind of skews things too, maybe written down it looks more douche baggerish when in my mind it was more nice happy flowers....


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891353 - 01/24/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Shins, go _______ yourself.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891392 - 01/24/10 01:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well as long as you know.

I guess we can't make everyone happy all the time. But still, come on man. Your ideas about rape and abortion are a bit out there. Not very shroomery point of view I guess we would say.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891423 - 01/24/10 02:02 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i dont knowif i posted yet but

im at a total of one so far. She is about two weeks, underage, and her parents absolutely despise me. In fact shes forbidden from  any  contact at all with me.


She says shes gettin a smasmortion and i have mixed feelings about this.

Im not religious but i am spiritual, and after some mediation, it is her body as well as her future that she may be jepordizing so im going to support her either way :hug:

Its not just sex with her like some of my other posts  might suggest.

I enjoy chilling with her she smokes she drinks sometimes, shes been there for me when i was odin and other countless occasions. And ive been there for her no matter what.

I do not have much to offer her finacially (yet) but i do take care of her.

gettin a chick pregnant on purpose is wrong, however im unsure whether abortion is the greater evil.  (if we Must get into an ethics debate bout how evil and good are relevent etc... plz make another thread, i will disscuss:hippie:

Im kind of leaning towards abortion.

1) because it is itentionl

2) because inpregnation often is not

I mean why do YOU care about population control??:smirk:; If you posters are at or above the age limit to post here, you  will be dead long before you are affected (though the media will likely have you thinking otherwise, but thats for another thread as well).

It my belief that thats just a joke made bythose of you that post your concern about pop control; abliet not a very funny one.

If your concern is for the planet, then more power to you.

I share the same concern, however this earth has more than enough resources for everyone even if we reach the high billions.

Think about how many "developed" countries have stockpiles of natural resources that they claim are to preserve the future.

Yet we're still mining incredible amounts of these resources each DAY.

Their motive is greed, their is plenty to go around to feed the world so that we may have many briliant people that will finally bring humans in harmony with nature.

These people- many of them scientists, some politicans- have the knowldege but cant get the funding because its not as profitable for the goverments agenda. The more addictions we have the better; fuel ciggaretes, pre-packaged food.....

They get ignored.


Point is population control isnt the problem, human greed is.

answer to op 1 girl impregnated.

Now i will read all the other posts and respond

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891431 - 01/24/10 02:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:ilold: at this thread


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11891433 - 01/24/10 02:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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maybe i've just been put off by all the fanatic anti-abortion people protesting, killing doctors and trying to change the law.





just how many has that been in the last 10 years?

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    #11891460 - 01/24/10 02:09 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Shins said:
i guess it's that i dont consider an embyo a person yet :shrug:

getting an operation, or hormonal treatments,  both "unnaturally" change your body with the intent of preventing birth.

abortions are mire serious and painful most of the time yeah, but the intentions are both the same.




operations like a hysterectomy or tubal ligation are generally done for
medical reasons and they tend to be permanent, preventing pregnancy from
ever occurring abortions dont qualify for pregnancy prevention, 'hormone
therapy' as you call it doesnt alter the body, it alters the chemistry,
something that can happen naturally for many reasons other than
pregnancy, again it's used for the prevention of pregnancy, not to
prevent birth which is what abortions are for


Quote:

What about plan B then?  since the egg has been fertilized already is plan B as bad as abortion?






what about plan A, responsible sexual habits or plan C, not fucking


Quote:

I tend to weigh intent more than i do method, or semantics on defining when an embryo is a person.





you're still not acknowledging that their intent was that pregnancy
prevention is far superior than birth prevention, it's not a discussion
about when does life start


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:shrug: guess i just don't like people who want to tell others what to do with thier own bodies, or beat them up if they don't like it.





do you pull this stuff right out of the air? this hasnt been the argument





Pris dont want t get off on the wrong foot with you.

WHAT is THe ARGUMENT??/

i read his quotes n ur replies.

Seems like hes gettin alot of shit jsut for speaking his mind.

With all due respect, what are you some kind of saint?


befor i go on futher please answer my intial question, this thread is intriguing me :strokebeard:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11891482 - 01/24/10 02:12 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

people shouldnt use abortion in place of birth control

I'm just curious as to why someone would want to brag about getting half a
dozen chicks pregnant in the first place, much less brag about the number
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    #11891504 - 01/24/10 02:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Shins said:
well why is it wrong to have an abortion but not to use contraception?

the purpose is the same; to prevent unwanted children.

i'm saying that abortion is not wrong as birth control 100 times or more if both parties are consenting.  no more than if you have sex with other birth control 100 times or more.





wow... you're comparing a drug that fools your body into thinking it's
pregnant in order to prevent conception/pregnancy to an invasive
medical procedure that terminates a pregnancy well after conception

I hope you dont wait until your engine seizes up to consider an oil change





wow man i dont exactly agree with shins but doing a drug 2 "fool" your body into thinking its pregnant in order to pevet pregnacy can be ethically just as bad as abortion. Is it more invasive to the girl,no. Is it more or just as invasive to nature, yes.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11891522 - 01/24/10 02:19 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

:facepalm:


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    #11891536 - 01/24/10 02:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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people shouldnt use abortion in place of birth control

I'm just curious as to why someone would want to brag about getting half a
dozen chicks pregnant in the first place, much less brag about the number
of abortions they 'caused'





indeed i agree 100%, in fact thats disgustingly dispicable.


however im also intrigued with ur rebuttle to his other views. though you have ne need to explain urself, of course :hippie:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11891544 - 01/24/10 02:22 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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wow man i dont exactly agree with shins but doing a drug 2 "fool" your body into thinking its pregnant in order to pevet pregnacy can be ethically just as bad as abortion. Is it more invasive to the girl,no. Is it more invasive to nature, yes.





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    #11891560 - 01/24/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hologram said:
wow man i dont exactly agree with shins but doing a drug 2 "fool" your body into thinking its pregnant in order to pevet pregnacy can be ethically just as bad as abortion. Is it more invasive to the girl,no. Is it more invasive to nature, yes.





so please feel free to explain





Well both of these things; the contraceptive, and an abortion are for the purpose of preventing another human being from coming into this world.

therefore, they are at the very least equally disturbing the natural way of things. Which u may or may not give 2 shits about. But i do :shrug:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11891562 - 01/24/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

A few... i see protesters at the bus station pretty often calling people murderers and shouting, also all those pro-life people you see on TV and on the internet.  i haven't heard of a murder in a while...

It just comes down to the fact that i don't think it's right for someone else to tell someone what they can and can't do with their own bodies.  And especially not to beat them up or murder them for it.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11891568 - 01/24/10 02:28 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

also Pris read my other posts(this thread) i have mush time to discuss, if u want


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11891595 - 01/24/10 02:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

damn this thread is  still going strong!


and yes i(and the people involved) do realize that we are not responsible people, but i assure you, im not bragging, i was simply posting something personal for discussion:shrug:


I mean ya i get you are "APPALLED"  by it. but the truth of the matter is
no matter how much all the pubbers bitch about it and tell me i(we) are bad people, they(nor me) is going to suddenly feel like a monster about it.


ya 5 abortions with 2 different woman. believe me i(we) realized the seriousness of the situations. but if they are consenting to the operations just as much as me, and not ready for children, then the decisions  were made.

go get asshurt about a pedophile kidnapping a living,breathing child and killing it, or the slaughter of innocent children in 3rd world country FFS.


Or i could post about other mistakes and wrong doings in my life and you could criticize me on that if you like :shrug:


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    #11891783 - 01/24/10 03:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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yogabunny said:
well the thing that is blowing my mind is that you seem to be proud of it

"well i must be super fertile" (nah, you're just a little more than a primate with no self control apparently)

at least have some reverence for the natural process you "interrupted" 5 times.




we are all animals get over it, i think your attractive, naturally id want to mate with you. Sure maybe hes bein a little atention whore but to call him a primate with no self control as an insult is wrong. In fact it may be true in which case, his not having control exempts hims from impregnated thos women


however if he did it just to be a prick, or is trlling, or actually thinks hes cool for causing so many lives to be taken then ya hes got some issue, but dont we all.

i actually agree with his views on bitrh control and condoms falling into the sam category as abortion. They are all for he purpose of preventing another human being from coming into this world.

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    #11891798 - 01/24/10 03:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

AcidDropper, humans have evolved to judge people,places, and situations in order to avoid "bad shit from happening". This is how our ancestors were successful in surviving and reproducing, and this is why modern humans are so judgmental(whether we admit or not), and to different degrees.


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    #11891846 - 01/24/10 03:13 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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AcidDropper, humans have evolved to judge people,places, and situations in order to avoid "bad shit from happening". This is how our ancestors were successful in surviving and reproducing, and this is why modern humans are so judgmental(whether we admit or not), and to different degrees.




i though you were going to say

"AcidDropper, humans have evolved to judge people,places, and situations in order to avoid "bad shit from happening". This is how our ancestors were successful in surviving and reproducing, and this is why modern humans have invented abortions"

last line threw me off  :peace:


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    #11892060 - 01/24/10 03:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hologram said:
wow man i dont exactly agree with shins but doing a drug 2 "fool" your body into thinking its pregnant in order to pevet pregnacy can be ethically just as bad as abortion. Is it more invasive to the girl,no. Is it more invasive to nature, yes.





so please feel free to explain





Well both of these things; the contraceptive, and an abortion are for the purpose of preventing another human being from coming into this world.

therefore, they are at the very least equally disturbing the natural way of things. Which u may or may not give 2 shits about. But i do :shrug:





one works on the principal that it aids the body in producing certain
hormones to make the body believe it's pregnant, as I mentioned,
something that does occur naturally in most women at some point due to
many factors in their life... the difference is that one is deliberately
induced, the other comes from other sources like stress, is it still so
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    #11892093 - 01/24/10 03:46 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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ya 5 abortions with 2 different woman. believe me i(we) realized the seriousness of the situations.





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    #11892105 - 01/24/10 03:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Just want to point out a few things that i didn't read in this thread (correct me if i'm wrong)


First of all,  i don't agree with abortion.

Hold your fire, let me explain my point of view...

I am a psychonaut, i believe in the exploration of the mystery called life.

When  two people make love, it's a magical moment for the psychobiology of their existance...they make each other feel extatic (usually) and the fruit of this beautiful moment is the creation of a new consciousness.

This new consciousness is created during this very special second of conception, it is the order to create a new life. A new individual starting point.

Who cares if its week #1 or week #2....you interrupt something that has already started, something you have no idea about how tremendously strange and complex is...

Wrapped so deep in mystery, that you can't see its starting point, it makes you feel it's not important.

It is not only flesh that is being involved tho.

Like any murder tho, the person who performs it, has no idea of what he actually does, you need the state of ignorance to be able to proceed...and for that reason no one can accuse a person who actually murders life. He is inocent, because he didn't know or feel the importance of what he was actually doing.

The people who think he is a murderer can be all upset about it, but the raw truth is he didn't feel SO much about it, thus didn't know the exact importance of actions.

These thoughts have made me not wanting to have sex with women that i couldn't see as possible mothers of my childs, (altho i did in the past).

There has been alot of research in the field, it would benefit the entire thread to do some reading on the subject.

I must remind you, these are all just my thoughts, i am no scientist nor am i a saint.

I just read and experience the world around me, just like you. My thoughts have brought me to these conclusions, i am ready to change my thought if i find a logic behind your posts.

Please consider the following sources of information and think about our integral spiritual nature, even modern science has evidence on the unity of what we perceive as separate humans. The deeper truth is we are the same neurons that live the illusion of separation...its not another human baby, its a part of our self that is murdered in a suicidal theme.


(LSD - PSYCHOTHERAPY AND THE FOETUS)


The Egyptian Gazette, Sunday August 15, 1976

Were you welcome in your mother’s womb?
“How should I know? I was only a foetus when I was there.”
An imaginary bit of dialogue between a patient and a psychiatrist of the future. But no laughing matter.
The foetal stage of your development is, in normal circumstances, impossible to remember. Most people can’t remember their infancy or early childhood. The question, all the same, may be crucial to you emotional make-up. A Greek neuropsychiatrist has turned up evidence that the human personality starts developing very early in life, probably almost as soon as the foetus is formed in the mother. And his advice to expectant parents is to keep calm and happy for the sake of their child’s future. The emotional state of the mother can, it seems, be transmitted to the little one in her womb. Thus, a row between the expectant mother and her husband may do damage. So, also, may the mother who longs, let us say, to have a boy when the baby in her womb is in fact a girl, or, vice versa, hopes for a girl when she is, in fact, going to give birth to a boy. And, it seems, the pregnant woman who resents having a child at all, i.e. rejects the foetus inside her, is apparently laying up a life of appalling misery for her offspring when he or she comes.
Dr. Athanassios Kafkalides, former Director of the Neuro-Psychiatric section of Cairo’s Greek Hospital, says that he has found certain psychedelic drugs, administered in minute doses, a helpful means of psychotherapy. These drugs - LSD and psilocybine - increase, he says, the dimensions of consciousness of the every-day life. “The capacity for self-observation, introspection and self-criticism expands remarkably.” Psychotherapeutic sessions in which he used these drugs with some of his patients - 53 in all between 1960 and 1972 - had proved revealing. His thesis about expectant parents is derived from evidence provided for the most part by 16 of these patients.
Thirteen of them - nine women and four men, aged between 21 and 33, were treated at Cairo’s Greek Hospital for various periods between 1960 and 1970 with 50 - 100 micrograms of LSD each. The three others, two women and one man, their ages ranging between 23 and 28, were treated at the psychiatric institutions of Nicosia from December 1970 to March 1972 with between three to nine milligrams of Psilocybine Sandoz. For this he was granted special permission by the Cypriot Ministry of Health.
One of his patients, a male of 28 years old, was treated successfully for obsessive homosexual behaviour. Thanks to very small doses (60 - 80 millionths of a gram) of LSD the patient revived in memory the painful experience of his intra-uterine life. He described a feeling of decreasing in size. Then, in a reclining position, he drew his knees up, let his head fall towards his chest and flexed his wrists so that his hands rested on his abdomen. He had got into the foetal position. Frequent muscular contractions began to shake his body. And the patient descried a feeling of absolute relaxation and serenity which was interrupted by these.
Later, the patent’s mother told Dr Kafkalides that while she had been pregnant (with the patient), she had had severe attacks of nervous stress and depression. These had been caused by her husband’s behaviour.
It seems evident, says the doctor, that the patient’s muscular contractions were due to the transmission of his mother’s emotional shocks to him during the foetal stage of his existence.
The patient said that he had realised during the treatment that sexual intercourse with a woman had meant an emotional “return to the hell of the womb”. It had, therefore, had a castrating effect on him.
“My mother, whom I had loved more that anyone else, had proved to be my victimiser during her pregnancy,” he wrote. “Her emotional stresses and shocks had been transmitted to the foetus I was. My basic trauma were the painful messages (contractions) that interrupted my serenity in the uterus. Agony mainly, and a rare serenity, dominated me in the womb. My life after birth was similarly dominated.
Dr. Kafkalides says that the fear is a feeling created by the functioning of a system of neurons and that these neurons work during labour as well as foetal life. The sixteen patients (including the one quoted), claimed that during LSD-psychotherapy sessions they had revived their intra-uterine experiences. This, says the Doctor, can be explained on the basis of LSD reactivating the “memory” of the neurons. The pharmocodynamic activity of the drug also explains the enormous “expansion of the consciousness” and the extreme degree of auto-observation and introspection that these patients developed under LSD.
The sixteen did not all describe similar conditions of foetal life. And Dr. Kafkalides classified them into four categories according to the “quality” of the intra-uterine experiences they described:
The fully welcome i.e those whose existence within the womb was fully welcomed by the mother.
The totally undesirable i.e. those whose existence within the womb was totally undesired by the mother.
The undesirable as regards sex i.e. those whose existence as such within the womb was welcomed, but whose sex was not. The mother wanted the foetus in her womb, but wished it to be the opposite sex of what it actually was.
Those who were welcomed but who suffered periodic shock i.e. those whose existence was a foetus and whose sex were welcomed but who suffered shock due to sudden disturbances in the pregnant mother’s emotional state.
Dr. Kafkalides points out that other scientists are now challenging the view that, because the foetal nervous system is not well developed, it is impossible for a foetus to ‘feel’. Experiments done in Australia and Japan have shown that the foetus responds differently to qualitatively different stimuli acting on their mothers’ nervous systems.
“I agree”, says the Doctor, “that it does seem unbelievable that a foetus can ‘feel’ and ‘know’ that his or her mother does not welcome his or her sex. But my patients improved clinically after such emotional realisations.”
“I believe”, he added, “that it is not coincidental that of the two cases who were ‘totally unwanted’ one improved very little and the other improved very slowly. The nervous system of the ‘unwanted’ seems almost conditioned to react morbidly forever.”
“What about the absolutely wanted?”
“According to the emotional realisations of the three ‘fully welcome’, their trauma originated during their birth. A primitive, terrifying fear gripped them as soon as they came into contact with the external environment. You must imagine how a new-born baby feels: It is a tiny creature, powerless and alone against the ‘chaos’ of the external environment. It ‘wishes’ to return to the serenity that it knows in the uterus. And then it must face the impossibility of satisfying that wish. It was this wish and the impossiblity of satisfying it that motivated the behaviour of the three cases during their adult lives. They kept trying in vain, to find the lost paradise. I would point out, by the way, that the ‘trauma of birth’ for these three was an emotional trauma, not a physical one.”
The 16 patients were suffering from all sorts of neurotic symptoms, says the Doctor. “Even psychotic-like symptoms. All, as well, had severe sexual problems. Other psychiatrists who had examined the ‘totally unwanted’ had diagnosed them as schizophrenics. The male patients of the fourth category, the one whose experiences I quoted, was diagnosed as a borderline schizophrenic. A female patient of the ‘unwanted for sex’ category was diagnosed as ‘endogenous depression with agritation’.”
“Would you describe and explain the neurotic condition?”
“Well, let us say, a patient is in an anxiety state. He fears, for instance, that he is dying of a heart attack. A specialist examines him, does an electrocardiogram, and finds nothing. But the patients still insists he’s dying of a heart attack. Efforts to calm him by logic fail. Why? Because a primitive fear has been awakened. And that needs further explanation.
“From observation of my patients, I would say that those who suffered in intra-uterine life and those who were traumatised by birth, expulsion from the womb, felt that they were rejected by their mothers. Both situations added up to a rejection situation. This causes an indescribable fear. And this fear is reactivated during the life-span by any stimulus that is fear-producing. If the fear that is caused by any objective stimulus far outweighs the degree of fear due to the stimulus, this means that the primitive, original fear has been awakened. And we get a neurotic situation.
“Primitive fear, is fear felt by the embryo of foetus which for one reason or another is not welcomed by the mother. It is a fear of the mother who, to the foetus, is a superpower - a superpower whom the foetus does not satisfy. The foetus therefore feels itself in absolute chaos.”
“Why has sex got such enormous importance for patients and ‘normal’ people?”
“The most important biological need is self-preservation. It is a wish, a tendency of the organism to live as long as possible, if not forever. Nature helps the organism to satisfy this need indirectly - through its descendants. Through sex and procreation we prolong our existence. So sex is an indispensable activity for the human being and it symbolises his return to ‘life in the uterus’. For those who were ‘welcome’ there is no problem, they return to happiness. For those who were unwanted, sexual intercourse is the most complicated and dreadful experience. They return to hell.
“LSD shows us how foetal trauma may be prevented. It also helps in alleviating the horror some humans experience. And those responsible for the horror are members of the older generation.
“Married people should be careful of their emotions when the wife is pregnant. Because there is good evidence that the health of the future human being depends on the feelings of the mother. And only the calm, affectionate mother can help the new-born infant overcome his or her fear of birth.”

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Sterile]
    #11892457 - 01/24/10 04:40 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I am not a fan of condoms, my last girlfriend we had sex all the time and when I got scared she was gonna get pregnant I got her the morning after pill like 20 times. I shouldof learned ejaculation control techniques :thumbup:

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Sterile]
    #11892488 - 01/24/10 04:44 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

hate to break this to you man, but idoubt anyone is gonna read that would schpeel and watch the 10 minute video, but good posting nontheless.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #11892520 - 01/24/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

WTF

Why wasn't she on the pill?

That morning after guy is really rough on the body...

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #11892609 - 01/24/10 05:01 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I didnt know that the morning after pill was so bad. If I did I wouldnt have her take it. She wasnt on the pill cause I was like 18 and she was 17 living with her parents and they would freak if they found out.

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: p4kSouL]
    #11892836 - 01/24/10 05:31 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The last line, shows how being judgmental has helped our ancestors survived, and invokes the notion that we make judgments everyday to stay alive, and some day reproduce.

Simple example: You wouldn't walk down south central without a weapon or a KreW.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11892946 - 01/24/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I never thought everyone would read this, i post what i post for the one in a million that will actually have some interest in a different point of view.

After all, those are the people that keep an open mind, and are interesting to communicate with, since they evolve in divercity, rather than kill some time with cheap jokes and irony.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shins]
    #11892987 - 01/24/10 05:48 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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psychological trauma a woman goes to when giving up her undeveloped child. It stays with her for the rest of her life. "Hmmm, I wonder what he would be like if I had him, he'd be about 15 years old by now..."








That is down to the womans weakness. No point in dwelling - you might aswell have the baby if you are stupid enough to put yourself through that turmoil. Cut. it. off

Overly sensitive people like this prevent the human race developing rationally and logically.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11893039 - 01/24/10 05:54 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for the return rating aciddropper, learn to spell "too" you stupid fuck.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11896895 - 01/25/10 08:21 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Hologram said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Hologram said:
wow man i dont exactly agree with shins but doing a drug 2 "fool" your body into thinking its pregnant in order to pevet pregnacy can be ethically just as bad as abortion. Is it more invasive to the girl,no. Is it more invasive to nature, yes.





so please feel free to explain





Well both of these things; the contraceptive, and an abortion are for the purpose of preventing another human being from coming into this world.

therefore, they are at the very least equally disturbing the natural way of things. Which u may or may not give 2 shits about. But i do :shrug:





one works on the principal that it aids the body in producing certain
hormones to make the body believe it's pregnant, as I mentioned,
something that does occur naturally in most women at some point due to
many factors in their life... the difference is that one is deliberately
induced, the other comes from other sources like stress, is it still so
natural then?




if your talking about taking a pill than its still deliberate whether it also happens in nature or not. Just as deliberate as abortion......

also i was making a case that both the contraceptive and abortion are equally AGAINST nature, not that either of them was natural.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11897033 - 01/25/10 09:16 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Hologram said:
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yogabunny said:
well the thing that is blowing my mind is that you seem to be proud of it

"well i must be super fertile" (nah, you're just a little more than a primate with no self control apparently)

at least have some reverence for the natural process you "interrupted" 5 times.




we are all animals get over it, i think your attractive, naturally id want to mate with you. Sure maybe hes bein a little atention whore but to call him a primate with no self control as an insult is wrong. In fact it may be true in which case, his not having control exempts hims from impregnated thos women


however if he did it just to be a prick, or is trlling, or actually thinks hes cool for causing so many lives to be taken then ya hes got some issue, but dont we all.

i actually agree with his views on bitrh control and condoms falling into the sam category as abortion. They are all for he purpose of preventing another human being from coming into this world.

of course abortion is the greater evil, imo




just expressing my opinion man, like you are expressing yours.

the primate comment was outta line and very un-yogini of me, so i retract that statement and apologize to aciddropper for the insult. 

i was just flabbergasted by his nonchalance, and i speak with passion on this topic because i speak from experience.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11897165 - 01/25/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Hologram said:
also i was making a case that both the contraceptive and abortion are equally AGAINST nature, not that either of them was natural.




so would it be any different than using natural substances because there's
plenty of natural sources that can induce a miscarriage or stop ovulation,
do you feel it's natural for everyone that gets pregnant to have children,
many that have no means of taking care of them so that they can suffer and 
soon become a blight on the earth by robbing nature of it's ability to
sustain like?

is it natural to slowly murder the planet?

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11897228 - 01/25/10 10:02 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

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Quote:

Hologram said:
also i was making a case that both the contraceptive and abortion are equally AGAINST nature, not that either of them was natural.




so would it be any different than using natural substances because there's
plenty of natural sources that can induce a miscarriage or stop ovulation,
do you feel it's natural for everyone that gets pregnant to have children,
many that have no means of taking care of them so that they can suffer and 
soon become a blight on the earth by robbing nature of it's ability to
sustain like?

is it natural to slowly murder the planet?





Heres what im saying, any human interfearance with child birth or impregnation isnt natural. They are both equally against the way the natural world works. I think its natural for everyone that gets pregnant to let nature take its course.

I do not deny that in todays age both a contraceptive or even abortion may be necessary, but imo both options are in equal violation of the natural way of things.

Is it natural to slowly murder the planet?
Im not sure, ive always believed that humans are an advanced for of cancer and our host is earth. The tumors we cause are visible from space. So it may actual be natural, but either way im against it. I love our planet, but we could very well be part of a greater agenda,and our purpose may indeed be to infect mother earth

and yes it would be different than using natural substances because they are natural.....


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11897336 - 01/25/10 10:24 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

trampis and i were just talking about this the other day.

in "nature" if there were no industrialized nations, it would make sense for humans to have more than one child. which is, no doubt, why the human body can deal with multiple pregnancies.
if everything was still, imo, the way it should be... a few of your children probably wouldn't make it to adulthood.  they'd get sick or get mauled by a wild animal or something would probably happen to keep the population down. humans have just tilted the scale in their favor and now there are  more of them (us) than there probably should be.

oh, and i've never gotten anyone pregnant. ha
but trampis has gotten me pregnant twice.
neither time on purpose. i miscarried and then got pregnant 2 weeks later.
we now have a 2 month old son.
also gave birth naturally. no meds. altho they did stick me with pitocin cuz i wasn't contracting regularly enough to get him down the ol birth canal as quick as they wanted me to.

but, i didn't ever think once about getting things "taken care of" as some of our friends so lovingly refer to getting an abortion


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: maerigan]
    #11897347 - 01/25/10 10:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly who gives a damn if you use a contraceptive,

i wish i parents did, its worse liveing with people that don't want you then it is to be wiped from exsistance before you had a chance to experince it.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Dionili]
    #11897746 - 01/25/10 11:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

getting banned was so worth it jesus reading this thread still pisses me off.  its just beyond me that one person could be so damn stupid so many times

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11897854 - 01/25/10 12:08 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

What did you get banned for a day or two over something you said?

Makes me sick too.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11897891 - 01/25/10 12:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

abortin lil sports like it aint no thang but a chicken wang

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Apostle]
    #11898056 - 01/25/10 12:49 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Heres what im saying, any human interfearance with child birth or impregnation isnt natural. They are both equally against the way the natural world works. I think its natural for everyone that gets pregnant to let nature take its course.




but humans are natural, our actions and behaviors are natural, in all
honesty, you sound like the UberCatholic or MegaMuslim, it actually
sounds worse than sarah palin

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: efrog]
    #11898266 - 01/25/10 01:21 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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efrog said:
What did you get banned for a day or two over something you said?

Makes me sick too.




yea priznar #1 banned me for 24 hours I guess look on page 6 & 7 my posts where I really dug into him are deleted lol

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11898300 - 01/25/10 01:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:

Hologram said:
Heres what im saying, any human interfearance with child birth or impregnation isnt natural. They are both equally against the way the natural world works. I think its natural for everyone that gets pregnant to let nature take its course.




but humans are natural, our actions and behaviors are natural, in all
honesty, you sound like the UberCatholic or MegaMuslim, it actually
sounds worse than sarah palin







i see your point humans are natural and therefore our trying to prevent pregnancy or child birth is a natural thing.

Im not uber catholic or megamuslim, and that comments pretty immature.

anyways ive enjoyed this debate 5 shrooms for you:hippie:

Heres what i took from it;

humans and our actions are natural

pills aren't no matter how u cut it including birth control

Depending on your values birth control can be seen as wrong but is, IMO, not as bad as abortion.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11898303 - 01/25/10 01:26 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

So your telling us you've been...



That sucks for real. (I finally had a reason to use that picture) :crazy2:


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: AcidDropper420]
    #11898325 - 01/25/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty surprised at the number of people saying to use the pull out method...

It's not failproof by ANY means. Even if you don't cum before you pull out... pre-cum contains a few million sperm and that's more than enough to get the job done, all it takes is one of those little guys to reach the finish line. I got my ex pregnant using this amazing method.. and I know at least 3 other people it's happened to as well.

Also...

ABORTION IS NOT BIRTH CONTROL

I knew this one chick (slut) that didn't believe in condoms or the pill and literally got pregnant like once or twice a year, and would just get an abortion whenever it happened. She said abortions were her form of  birth control. I believe she had about 8 in the time I knew her. Shit makes me fucking sick.

Yeah sure... have an abortion if you fucked up, can't support a kid, and don't want to have it and put it up for adoption. But IMO it should be a last resort... not "Oh don't worry I can always just have an abortion". Retarded. If you're that stupid just get your balls/ovaries cut off, people like that shouldn't be able to have kids.


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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Kada]
    #11898358 - 01/25/10 01:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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So your telling us you've been...



That sucks for real. (I finally had a reason to use that picture) :crazy2:




yea man me and the OP really got into it anyone who gets a girl preggo 3 times and makes her abort 3 times is clearly so irresponsible he doesn't deserve a cock and balls.  what really pisses me off is everyone here is so hush hush and conservative nobody told him about his ass before or after me that I know of

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11898565 - 01/25/10 02:07 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: Shroomism]
    #11898616 - 01/25/10 02:16 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

indeed

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Re: how many women have you impregnated? [Re: zSDMF]
    #11898686 - 01/25/10 02:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

3 women 4 babies, one had two of my kids.

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