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sketchy room mates
    #11879091 - 01/22/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Im wondering about a theoretical situation.
What if a DMT op is started in an apartment with 2 room mates and the room mate was informed from the beginning and said it was fine. Later down the road one of said room mates wants to break the lease to drop out of school and move in with her drug dealer boyfriend. She is unable to for issues of credit and later calls the front office saying that meth was being produced in the apartment. Police get involved and only on of the room mates is charged. Could the other room mate be indicted as an accessory for the fact that she knew what was going on and lied to police for said reasons.

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: utk]
    #11879676 - 01/22/10 03:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Alot of the time police give what's basically immunity for the said person's testimony or role played in a bust,what is called rolling over,snitching,sell out,.etc. It's not like you can split the time w/her if she gets implicated too.
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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: 99BOOMERMAN]
    #11880939 - 01/22/10 06:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like you need to lawyer it up, was it DMT synthesis or extraction?

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: Freedom]
    #11881006 - 01/22/10 06:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

SWIM was doing extraction. The issue was that the room mate knowingly lied to the cops and told them that it was meth production. What if the warrent turned out to be meth specific?

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: utk]
    #11881159 - 01/22/10 06:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

She can just claim she thought it was meth, it would be hard to prove that she lied. And since the cops found drugs, I doubt they have any interest in going after her since she helped them.

Whoever was searched needs to not tell the cops anything and get a lawyer. The key thing is to make sure they are only going for the possession charge.

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: Freedom]
    #11896188 - 01/25/10 02:26 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

> What if the warrent turned out to be meth specific?

Doesn't matter what the warrant is for.  If they obtain the legal right to be there they can and will bust you for anything they find.

This is another case of someone getting busted for violating the #1 rule, tell NOBODY!

Apparently they also involved bitches, which should be the #2 rule.

Everyone else take note and be thankful it wasn't you!


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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: utk]
    #11899443 - 01/25/10 04:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

clean up your house and get anything that would raise any eyebrows gone and off the property. its not worth putting your future in jeopardy/


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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: fastfred]
    #11916106 - 01/28/10 03:00 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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fastfred said:
> What if the warrent turned out to be meth specific?

Doesn't matter what the warrant is for.  If they obtain the legal right to be there they can and will bust you for anything they find.

This is another case of someone getting busted for violating the #1 rule, tell NOBODY!

Apparently they also involved bitches, which should be the #2 rule.

Everyone else take note and be thankful it wasn't you!


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Wrong, if the warrant is for a specific item (like a .45 Glock, or a marijuana grow op) they can only confiscate the items listed inside of the warrant. They would have to get another warrant issued seperately to charge you for other items found that weren't listed. It can easily get thrown out if it was for a meth lab and it was DMT.

If the warrant was for meth specifically or meth manufacturing items then you may be able to get off the hook. However, if it's for meth or drug manufacturing items (being as you were manufacturing drugs, just not meth) they can get you for the DMT set up you had.

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: Phanodude]
    #11916716 - 01/28/10 09:23 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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. They would have to get another warrant issued seperately to charge you for other items found that weren't listed.




Unfortunately that is very easy to do if they are in your house legally for something else.

If the cops are looking for a shotgun, and they look in a small box next to the bed and find some drugs, they would not be allowed to use that against you, because it is not reasonable to look for a shotgun in a small box.

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Re: sketchy room mates [Re: Phanodude]
    #11916931 - 01/28/10 10:18 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Phanodude said:
Wrong, if the warrant is for a specific item (like a .45 Glock, or a marijuana grow op) they can only confiscate the items listed inside of the warrant. They would have to get another warrant issued seperately to charge you for other items found that weren't listed.




Nope.  If they have the legal right to be there (i.e. you let them in, consent to a search, or they have a warrant) they can arrest you for whatever crime they find.  They can then seize any evidence related to the arrest.

The only thing the warrant limits them on is where they can look.  They usually also have a listed time frame and manner of execution (i.e. regular, no-knock, or sneak-and-peek).  Anything listed on the warrant can be seized.  If they find an arrestable offence they can then also arrest you and seize evidence incident to the arrest.

This seems to be one of the biggest misconceptions here.  Alan posted some good info on this recently.


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