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circastes
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: stereolab]
#11873262 - 01/21/10 03:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is no Creator God, we are Creator Gods.
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: circastes]
#11873728 - 01/21/10 04:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Side note:
Holy freaking god; I'm trying to check out the Bashar vids but it is so, so hard to listen to this guy's way of speaking.
Aside from worrying that I'm being tricked into a suggestive mind-state by the pattern of speech, the 'accent' he's using is just hilarious sounding.
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: LSDXM]
#11873767 - 01/21/10 04:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think beliefs necessarily can create your reality (for the reasons Chronic and others have said) in most cases. I do however think that your desires are very powerful tools for shaping reality. If you could remove everything from your mind but a single desire, in my opinion it would be borderline impossible for you not to realize that desire.
It's like desire is a wave, and you can just surf on it towards your destination.
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: g00ru]
#11874143 - 01/21/10 05:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well the quickest way to realise is to see how different you look in the mirror throughout your moods. Your face is constantly changing due to shifts in consciousness. You are the imagination of yourself. If you are just a creation then of mind, since your mind is changing your appearance, then all things are a creation of the mind, since you can't be idle-state matter. There is no underlying reality at all. It's a mental projection.
Most people stay with the common imprint from school and media, and they pretend they're satisfied when they buy something new, as if material gain were the answer, but when you've been beaten into a drone mould, you don't know any better. You have just enough knowledge to know how to serve them. This is why everyone looks the same. Their minds are locked. They are a drone.
The liberated have the look of the future in their eyes. "Dead eyes see no future."
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: circastes]
#11874316 - 01/21/10 05:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: This is why everyone looks the same. Their minds are locked. They are a drone.

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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: circastes]
#11876156 - 01/21/10 10:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: Well the quickest way to realise is to see how different you look in the mirror throughout your moods. Your face is constantly changing due to shifts in consciousness. You are the imagination of yourself. If you are just a creation then of mind, since your mind is changing your appearance, then all things are a creation of the mind, since you can't be idle-state matter. There is no underlying reality at all. It's a mental projection.
Most people stay with the common imprint from school and media, and they pretend they're satisfied when they buy something new, as if material gain were the answer, but when you've been beaten into a drone mould, you don't know any better. You have just enough knowledge to know how to serve them. This is why everyone looks the same. Their minds are locked. They are a drone.
The liberated have the look of the future in their eyes. "Dead eyes see no future."
Your argument is the definition of non sequitur
The fact that your face changes to match your expression has absolutely nothing to do with being able to alter reality or consciousness being all that their is. It's a reaction based on your mood. The same way you become sad when something sad happens, you make a sad face because you were caused sadness.
You could just as easily say "Look at the way your hand looks when you're angry, clenched and hard; and when you're anxious/nervous, it shakes. So all there is is your hand; your hands can change reality!"
light bulbs change according to the state they're in as well (on or off), but all the world isn't light bulbs.
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: circastes]
#11876276 - 01/21/10 11:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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circastes said: Well the quickest way to realise is to see how different you look in the mirror throughout your moods. Your face is constantly changing due to shifts in consciousness. You are the imagination of yourself. If you are just a creation then of mind, since your mind is changing your appearance, then all things are a creation of the mind, since you can't be idle-state matter. There is no underlying reality at all. It's a mental projection.
Most people stay with the common imprint from school and media, and they pretend they're satisfied when they buy something new, as if material gain were the answer, but when you've been beaten into a drone mould, you don't know any better. You have just enough knowledge to know how to serve them. This is why everyone looks the same. Their minds are locked. They are a drone.
The liberated have the look of the future in their eyes. "Dead eyes see no future."
A mental projection from where? What is the source? Wouldn't that projection, then, *be* the underlying reality? To say that there is no underlying reality is to say that reality is noise/random...which still doesn't solve the problem because the underlying reality then becomes that reality is random.
Two of the most interesting bits of information I've encountered having to do with reality creation is this: Elias (a channeled entity) has said that many people can accept the idea of reality creation, but they don't fully believe it. They want to believe that when they get something good...new car, love of their life, they created it, but when something bad happens....that "belief" goes out the window.
Case 2: Bashar (a channeled entity) had described the kind of behavior required to create the reality you choose...and it's pretty wacky. He uses the new car example one time because someone was asking about a car they want for this philanthropic organization they belong to and they pass by a car lot every time they go to work...so he said if you truly want that car and believe you can get it you'll walk up there and say to the car salesman "I deserve to have that car! etc. etc. and most of humans think, "And he's just going to GIVE me a car?"... YES!" He recommends acting like you have already received whatever you want...model your life after that person and you will become them ( and get that thing).
I'm starting to think that deconstructing reality and saying ohh well reality waves and thoughts are waves so if I think real hard the waves will go out and blah blah blah....yeah we can figure some stuff out but I can almost guarantee that none of us in our entire lifetimes will have reality calculated out to the millionth of a degree. Let the universe have your back! Just believe and move on.
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Re: Reality and the Power of Belief [Re: fazdazzle]
#11878702 - 01/22/10 12:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's really upsetting when people actually take "channeled" information as some sort of viable source.
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