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RipvanBongBowl
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Im a noob
#11873427 - 01/21/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok... so where do i start? im new here, ive been researching for the past month or so and figured, "fuck it ill try it out". i went out and bought organic brown rice, a huge bag of verm, a huge bag of perlite, a cheap translucent container, some jars, and i already had some spores left only like 1 cc though... my buddy told me i could just add water ( only a little bit) and that would give me an extra few ccs to work with. Is this true? i would like to know kinda soon cause as we speak im sterilizing the jars with Brf and verm in a pot ( like roadkill in the Video "Lets grow Mushrooms" pf
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Dionili
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Sounds good. While the jars are cookin I'd say look up liquid cultures. they will definatly extend the life of your syringe. If your still going to try to add water to the syringe make sure its sterile.
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RipvanBongBowl
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Re: Im a noob [Re: Dionili]
#11873508 - 01/21/10 04:08 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks man... so i figured id just put some water in a spoon... cook it up like im gettin ready to bang a load... haha let it cool and then just draw it into the syringe which already has 1 cc of liquid left in it... i bought it from spores101 and it was already made... but yeah you think that will work?
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Dionili
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Dude that might kill them..Was that syringe viable?
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without letting the water cool down that would most definitely damage the spores in the syringe.
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RipvanBongBowl
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Re: Im a noob [Re: Dionili]
#11873716 - 01/21/10 04:45 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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i dont understand... what will kill what? explain to me... i got a syringe of z strain for spores101 and took it over to a friends who grows cubes pretty often and told him to start me off and id give him a cut... so... we used 9 ccs out of the syringe to knock up 9 pint jars... well like a week later we got in an arguement and now i dont want to talk to him (plus he wont answer the phone) so im out those 9 jars... Sigh! but i figured id do it on my own... so i went and bought what Roadkill says you need in that video " lets grow mushrooms" thats my guide thats taught me all i know so far... which isnt really much haha... so there is the scenerio help me out
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RipvanBongBowl
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ok but if i let the water cool down i should be pretty cool?
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RipvanBongBowl
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Hey how long do you let your jars cool for? i heard like 24 hours is that true? im getting ready to pull the pan of the stove with the Brf verm cakes at six pm how long should i let the jars cool?
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8 hours is fine or a good sleepy.
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Re: Im a noob [Re: badman]
#11873836 - 01/21/10 04:59 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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thank you guys sooooooo much i promise to send pics when possible... plus is perlite all i really need for humidity? i was thinking about gettin a bad ass ultrasonic mister give me some advice
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badman


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what kind of set up do you want RipvanBongHole?
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Re: Im a noob [Re: badman]
#11873883 - 01/21/10 05:04 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Perlite. But you have to use it right.
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RipvanBongBowl
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Re: Im a noob [Re: Doc_T]
#11874128 - 01/21/10 05:32 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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First of all Lame... you know who you are BatMan haha... but any ways i dont even really have a setup up yet I just took the jars with the brf verm substrate off the stove at 6 pm they are now cooling on my headboard... i figured since my apartment runs pretty warm id just let them chill... in 8 eight hours or so like you said id knock them up... i have a dilemma here though... so i have 1 cc of spore solution shit in my syringe... could or should i add some sterilized water in with the 1 cc? i figured if i did this i would then have 4 ccs of spore solution... just enough to knock up 4 jars... i know that isnt many, but we all have to start somewhere! give me some advice you guys are pros haha
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Re: Im a noob [Re: Doc_T]
#11874156 - 01/21/10 05:36 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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so how do i use it just put it in a tupperware and put water in it? like i said im a noob Teach Me Your Ways!
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Dude I think you're hurtin' with 1 CC. I'd be afraid to risk contaminating/getting no results out of all your jars you've prepared using the 'bang a load' technique 
If you've been in this for a while, I'd suggest looking into agar or LC to help take that 1 CC a little further..but it doesn't sound like that's the case.
What I would do if I was in your shoes...Noc up 1 jar with 1 CC, wait, wait some more. And read a whole lot.
Then on the harvest from the cake, take prints, clones, make some Liquid Culture, spore syringes, whatever really. Just get through that first one man. Don't risk 'em all and possible further delay your need/want/passion for mushrooms.
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Sorry I couldnt resist typing that...
Sterilise the water lets it cool and suck it up into the syringe.
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yeah your probably right... the only reason it came up is a personal buddy i have told me he did it and it worked... i dont wanna sound closed minded to your advice, but how long have you been doin this for? this is my first time... i think i might try it... and if it doesnt work i guess order some more spores i heard ralphsters is good the ones i got i bought off a buddy who had them and just never done anything with them
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RipvanBongBowl
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dont worry about it badman i would have done the same... but so i was wonderin... have you ever used the "Bang a Load" method adding extra water?
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eulogy1211
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To be honest I'm still getting accustomed to bulk. But PF Tek...probably 100-150 pints. Not crazy long time, and nowhere near as much as some these other rockstars on here, but trust me, I've put in so many hours reading and searching this site for information it's not even funny
I'm not saying it's not possible, but I'm just saying it's definitely another avenue for possible failure. First time, you want to keep that as minimal as possible. Just tryin' to help ya out bro...just sayin what I'd do if I was in your situation.
If you can get one pint to fruit, I can assure you by taking prints/clone one or two into LC, you'll never have this dilemma again. OR, like you said - give it a shot man and order some more spores just in case. It's def. doable.
I wish you luck
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RipvanBongBowl
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its cool dude i just dont know what to do there is people who have thousands of posts tellin me to do it... idk... but when you have 100 pints do you still dunk and roll?
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eulogy1211
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Oh I'm just saying I've done 100-150 pints. Not all at once...I don't have that much time, lol
Dunk and roll of course. Highly recommended.
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Quote:
RipvanBongBowl said: dont worry about it badman i would have done the same... but so i was wonderin... have you ever used the "Bang a Load" method adding extra water?
Yeh i have reloaded a syringe with sterile water but on the regs and i reconstituted 4 ml not 1 ml. Why do only have 1 ml??
The aim of my first ever grow PF style was to get one mushroom. To be self sufficient, i wasnt paying £30 for another syringe.
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Re: Im a noob [Re: badman]
#11874644 - 01/21/10 06:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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you gotta watch the first 4 vids on www.mushroomvideos.com it will show you how to make a fruiting chamber (shotgun is best imo for pint cakes) , how to prep the perlite, how to dunk and roll, etc... as for spores, ive done the "bang a load" and had success, but i could see a whole shitload of spores (black stuff) at the bottom of the empty syringe...i had nothin else to work with and my order was a good week or two from arriving. the good news is, once you noc up the jars, you have plenty of time to research your next step

if im getting it, the Bang A Load (nice tek name btw) is this: once the syringe is empty, you suck up 2-3 cc's (enough to finish off your jars)?
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Re: Im a noob [Re: badman]
#12029086 - 02/14/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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badman said: what kind of set up do you want RipvanBongHole?
I just finally actually read what you said! I know im an idiot! I want like a automatic Martha! Something i can get yield out of, not too expensive to set up, portable or on wheels, IDK if you can thnk of anything help me out cause as of right now my original jars are about 70% colonized and i want to use Large Dose's Coir tek. I figured id make a few monotubs and stack them on top of eachother.... Any advice or anything im lookin over? Thanks you guys for gettin me this far!
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you dont need a martha if your making mono's
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Im talkin about future refrences.....
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ohhhhhhhhhhh just get a clear portable closet from amazon or somethin and a cool mist humidifier http://www.shroomery.org/9664/Cybers-Martha-Tek
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