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Poid
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My take on why the afterlife is bullshit...
#11866817 - 01/20/10 03:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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If there is an afterlife for humans, then there's no reason why there shouldn't be one for every single other lifeform. This means that if a human dies and goes to heaven or hell, then so does every single one of the cells which comprise that human's body. But really, this doesn't make too much sense because the human is a lifeform comprised of millions of lifeforms, so there can't be a "soul" for the human because each lifeform which is contained in a human is part of that soul; but how could each lifeform which comprises a human be part of the human's soul if they each have a soul of their own? This would mean that there is some sort of "master soul" for the human, and also a bunch of other souls which belong to each cell and bacteria etc. Also, plant cells would go to the afterlife after they die.
Since all living beings are basically made of other living beings, how could there be one "soul" for any living being?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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livenotonevil
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11866845 - 01/20/10 03:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well perhaps you said it 'could there be one "soul"'? for everything. just grasping at air here.
-------------------- It is without question that the war on drugs is a failure. It has failed to prevent drug abuse. It has failed to keep drugs out of the hands of addicts. It has failed to stop drug overdoses. It has failed to keep drugs away from teenagers. It has failed to stop the violence associated with drug trafficking. It has failed to help drug addicts get treatment. It has failed to prevent the cultivation of marijuana and the making of illicit drugs. It has failed to halt the flow of illegal drugs into the United States.
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livenotonevil
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: livenotonevil]
#11866854 - 01/20/10 03:55 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Maybe this is the afterlife.
-------------------- It is without question that the war on drugs is a failure. It has failed to prevent drug abuse. It has failed to keep drugs out of the hands of addicts. It has failed to stop drug overdoses. It has failed to keep drugs away from teenagers. It has failed to stop the violence associated with drug trafficking. It has failed to help drug addicts get treatment. It has failed to prevent the cultivation of marijuana and the making of illicit drugs. It has failed to halt the flow of illegal drugs into the United States.
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Poid
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: livenotonevil]
#11866861 - 01/20/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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How could there be one soul for everything?
This isn't the afterlife because I don't remember living before; at least it's not my afterlife.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: livenotonevil]
#11866865 - 01/20/10 03:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nope, humans are special and no other organism gets an afterlife.
-------------------- We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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Poid
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: deCypher]
#11866871 - 01/20/10 03:57 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn it feels good to be a human.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Poid
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11866929 - 01/20/10 04:05 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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If I get my penis amputated, does it go to heaven?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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stereolab
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11867123 - 01/20/10 04:30 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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depends how often you masturbate to naked chicks.
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evilturnip
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11867194 - 01/20/10 04:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I think most people who argue for a soul don't try to argue in what or where the soul exists. Rather, they argue *how* the soul exists. In this case, for most people, consciousness is the seat of the soul.
Of course, if they really mean a soul, they are probably committed to some form of dualism.
Edited by evilturnip (01/20/10 04:43 PM)
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amuzakat
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: evilturnip]
#11867293 - 01/20/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Poid said:This isn't the afterlife because I don't remember living before; at least it's not my afterlife.
In that case you must be living somebody else's afterlife.. shit happens even in the Grand Cosmic Order sometimes!
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Poid
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: evilturnip]
#11868969 - 01/20/10 09:10 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylanfireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11869845 - 01/20/10 11:41 PM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just having life is just a full of shit. Why cant something like an 'afterlife' be possible where something weird as 'life' itself is possible.
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livenotonevil
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11869983 - 01/21/10 12:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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The universe is shaped exactly like the earth, if you go in one deriction you will end up where you where.
-------------------- It is without question that the war on drugs is a failure. It has failed to prevent drug abuse. It has failed to keep drugs out of the hands of addicts. It has failed to stop drug overdoses. It has failed to keep drugs away from teenagers. It has failed to stop the violence associated with drug trafficking. It has failed to help drug addicts get treatment. It has failed to prevent the cultivation of marijuana and the making of illicit drugs. It has failed to halt the flow of illegal drugs into the United States.
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Thisfire
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: livenotonevil]
#11869995 - 01/21/10 12:18 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Id like to believe that when we die we become one with the universe. But unfortunately it seems that death isn't quite so ... awesome.
-------------------- Let your imagination fill in the blanks.
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Edited by Thisfire (01/21/10 12:18 AM)
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soldatheero
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: misfitdeviate]
#11870009 - 01/21/10 12:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just having life is just a full of shit. Why cant something like an 'afterlife' be possible where something weird as 'life' itself is possible
exactly..everyone has to realize and fully grasp this.
-------------------- ..and may the zelda theme song be with you at all times, amen.
Edited by soldatheero (01/21/10 12:20 AM)
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NWlight
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11870039 - 01/21/10 12:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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how have you taken psychedelics and still doubt that there is life after death? I don't mean life in the current sense, i mean... that you will still exist in some form, perfect in all ways. all life forms have it, even plants in small amounts. The only reason we think we are special is because our brains evolved faster (or should I say differently) than those of other organisms. Yes, animals get to go on, too :P you'll be reunited with fido in some form once you transcend this reality.
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11870063 - 01/21/10 12:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Poid said: How could there be one soul for everything?
This isn't the afterlife because I don't remember living before; at least it's not my afterlife.
Assuming, for a moment, that past lives existed, why do you assume that you would remember it? In the medium we exist, all of psychology can be described as a chemical/electrical event. this includes memories. When you died as a copper miner in africa two years ago, the brain that contained those memories stopped working. your consciousness left your body and (again, in this hypothetical situation where we assume reincarnation is real) was then sent into another vessel, or body. thus, "you" have moved into another body, but with a fresh brain that cannot remember memories it has not encoded. All knowledge rises from experience. or at least John Locke thought so.
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: NWlight]
#11870455 - 01/21/10 04:32 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would pick oblivion over a afterlife.
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desant
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11870568 - 01/21/10 06:13 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Poid said: Since all living beings are
in fact ENERGY condensed into a dense form....
cells are life force energy... i read somewhere that if lesser life forms die like dogs or cells here... they go onto more sophisticated spiritual journey and join other such little life forms, combine and become greater ...
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desant
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Re: My take on why the afterlife is bullshit... [Re: Poid]
#11870571 - 01/21/10 06:15 AM (14 years, 2 months ago) |
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Poid said: This isn't the afterlife because I don't remember living before; at least it's not my afterlife.
THAT is what gets me most... if we all existed with no beginning and no end
how come we CAME TO, stopped and realised our life, IN THIS LIFE now?
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