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OfflineDilauded
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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1193540 - 01/05/03 07:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Seriously. Dilauded is the first guy I've seen defending Ashcroft. Even most Republicans I've talked to are scared of that guy.




He's a strong conservative and him being pro-death penalty, anti-abortion, anti gay rights, and opposed to gun control doesn't mean i advocate the guy's every view. The opposition to gun control and the pro-death penalty is what I agree with him by. Abortion is already a law and I doubt the courts would make it illegal, have they yet? But that's aside the subject.

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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1193575 - 01/05/03 07:39 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I'm referring more the to fact that he doesn't seem to think the Bill of Rights means anything. He's destroying civil liberties in this country as we speak.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1193582 - 01/05/03 07:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Wasn't there already a gay couple wed?
I hear what you're saying, but gays will be exploited no matter what. Might as well figure out something to work with it.

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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1193646 - 01/05/03 07:57 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Well, there's a difference between a ceremonial wedding and an actual legally recognized marriage. Hawaii is the only state I know of that recognizes gay marriages, tho there might be a few others.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1193665 - 01/05/03 08:02 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Too bad its a big deal for a lot of people.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1193684 - 01/05/03 08:07 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

As far as I'm concerned the State has no business sanctioning any marriages.

A marriage is a contract between two people of the opposite sex.

Gay "marriage" is a loop hole to get tax breaks and other benefits.

Please post historical evidence to the contrary.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: ]
    #1193722 - 01/05/03 08:12 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Among those "benefits" you mention is inheritance. What if a gay man is killed and doesn't have a will? Without a state-sanctioned marriage, the parter gets nothing. Another "benefit" is hospital visits. Personally, I would consider these things to be rather important.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1193738 - 01/05/03 08:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

So you'd better have a will.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Phluck]
    #1194176 - 01/05/03 11:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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While their speeches might convince you that their agendas are different, they really don't do things much differently.




Oh yea, give some proof of that.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1194189 - 01/05/03 11:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

The subjects like racism and gay rights are like beating a dead horse.

It a shame that GNR doesn't have Slash anymore,
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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Phred]
    #1194376 - 01/06/03 02:50 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

How can there be a resumption of hostilities? we have been bombing them for the last 10 years anyway.

Its about money, its about power, its about control. We sold them all the WMD's, we practically created Iraq about 80 yearsa ago. At which time, I might add my, government were bombing innocent kurds and Winston Churchill had approved the use of poison gas on the Kurds, luckily for them we couldnt quite get the technology right at that point.

If you want to support war with Iraq, fine by me but dont pretend its about all that dreary drivel you get fed thru the media. Stand up and say "im willing to bomb innocent Iraqi's to further the cause of global capitalism" at least thats closer to the truth than all this WMD rubbish.





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Re: Am I a racist [Re: ]
    #1194377 - 01/06/03 02:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been brainwashed - I just dont know who by! :grin: 


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1194534 - 01/06/03 04:52 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

"The subjects like racism and gay rights are like beating a dead horse."

Why? They're obviously still big problems today.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1194554 - 01/06/03 05:04 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

What were some of Gore's stances on the issues, let's see:

-Pro death penalty
-Huge list of proposed tax cuts
-Increased military spending
-Wanted to censor music/other media
-Anti-abortion
-Although he's supposedly a "friend of the environment", under the Clinton administration, he seemed far less concerned than even Reagan did.

Here's a list of environmental tidbits Clinton/Gore are responsible for:

-The passage of the "salvage logging" rider that is causing the destruction of ancient public forests and critical watersheds.
-The signing of the Panama Declaration, which undermines protection or marine mammals including dolphins and whales.
-The continuation of the use of methyl bromide, a highly toxic pesticide known to destroy the Earth's ozone layer.
-The weakening if not the gutting, of the Endangered Species Act through administrative changes in its rules and regulations.
-The passage of NAFTA and GATT, international trade agreements that represent the biggest sellout of American workers in U.S. history and effectively remove environmental protections passed by Congress because any legislation deemed to "restrain free trade" can be declared illegal by international tribunals dominated by large scale corporate interests.
-The lowering of grazing fees on public land, despite promises by candidate Clinton to raise those fees. As a result, Clinton is subsidizing the cattle industry while overtaxing people and land.
-Continuing to subsidize the sugar industry in Florida, which is poisoning the Everglades and diverting large amounts of water needed by wildlife.
-Opening wildlife refuges to hunting and fishing by presidential decrees.
-Weakening the Safe Drinking Water Act by allowing increased levels of lead and arsenic in drinking water supplies.
-Reversing the ban on the production of and importation of -PCBs (polychlorinated biphenyls), which may cause more than 40,000 fatalities in the Great Lakes region alone.
-Increasing our dependence on Middle East Oil by breaking the promise to not allow the export of Alaskan oil.

I blatantly copied that list from some other site.

That's just what I could bring up in a few minutes of research. If I weren't so lazy, I'd go into way more detail.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1194672 - 01/06/03 01:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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I agree that gays in the military will cause more violence against gays, but they should still have the right to join. They should just be aware of the danger they're putting themselves in.




...naturally, being shot at by arab fundamentalists in some godforsaken shithole instead of doing the interior decorations at Anna Nicole Smith's villa would be a significant increase on the level of violence (unless you are into really heavy S/M shit on your free time).


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1194717 - 01/06/03 01:39 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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The subjects like racism and gay rights are like beating a dead horse.

It a shame that GNR doesn't have Slash anymore,
Dilauded



I fail to see how. I mean, ya, racism and homophobia are always going to exist, but this isn't about changing people's attitudes. It's about giving these people equal rights. There's a difference between bigotry and oppression.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: GazzBut]
    #1194829 - 01/06/03 02:18 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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Stand up and say "im willing to bomb innocent Iraqi's to further the cause of global capitalism"




Saddam killed off the innocent Iraqis.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: silversoul7]
    #1195634 - 01/06/03 06:56 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

America is not a perfect society, but other countries have it a worse than America could ever dream of. While many in the middle east scour for something to eat everyday, here in America we're thinkin bout something like when's the next DVD coming out. My point is, if you're gay/lesbian/bi that you have a lot more rights here than you will anywhere else. And if gays aren't accepted and don't get along w/ the community, then move somewhere they're welcomed(ie:Key West, San Francisco). Politicians who say they're for/against gay rights say it to get votes. You have the right to do everything everyone else can. Some ppl will understand gays and a lot won't. Its a part of life wherever in the world you are.

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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Dilauded]
    #1195643 - 01/06/03 07:00 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I already mentioned rights that gay people don't have, such as inheritance, hospital visits, marriage, and military service.


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Re: Am I a racist [Re: Phluck]
    #1195693 - 01/06/03 07:19 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

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What were some of Gore's stances on the issues, let's see:

-Pro death penalty
-Huge list of proposed tax cuts
-Increased military spending
-Wanted to censor music/other media
-Anti-abortion



Now Gore is a man who I don't believe one word of what he says. I mean the guy had a different stance everytime I saw him speak. Its a waste of time to pay attention to the him. Now Clinton is a man who could lie with a smile on his face and a lot of people believe him, and his clever use of wording. Just goes to show how dumb people are and what media how much an influence media has on the public. But those stances that you listed by Gore were an attempt to take away votes from Bush.

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Here's a list of environmental tidbits Clinton/Gore are responsible for:



Yea that whole list.

That's interesting, b/c I always thought they stood beside the environmentalists. What's the website? Hippies, at festivals, would preach on about save the trees and how the Republicans are killing the environment, then I'd see the Clinton/Gore sticker on their car. And now your post.

It just gets better and better,
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