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Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience
    #11850570 - 01/17/10 11:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

SWIM received 112 grams of Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark and 28 grams of Syrian Rue seeds. SWIM was making enough Ayahuasca (SWIM KNOWS IT'S NOT TRUE INDIGENOUS AYA!) for four doses, there was three ppl but made one extra just in case of weakness. So SWIM weighed 32g of MHRB (8g per dose) and 12g of Syrian Rue seeds (3g per dose). Also cut two lemons for acidity to help alkaloid extraction. SWIM got one large stainless steel pot and filled about 1/3 with water and added about a 1/2 cup of lemon juice. SWIM heated until boil then turned down heat at boiling to a simmering to not destroy alkaloids. Threw in grounded Syrian Rue seeds and ground MHRB. Simmered while stirring almost constantly for 30 mins. Filtered the mixture through a old shirt (bad idea as he/her will find out soon). Repeated 3 more times until pretty clear liquid. SWIM added all three "teas" together and split into equal four doses. SWIM and his/her friends started to drink a dose each. SWIM is a big tea drinker and dipped a peppermint tea bag and ginger aid tea in the AYA to help some nausea (did nothing) The mixture was powdery as there was poor filtration. Also tasted like ginger a lot(HORRIBLE MIXTURE). SWIM and friends could only keep the Ayahuasca down for a good thirty mins before the purge got us all one after another. SWIM feels this caused a lot of the weakness and our body's are just horribly polluted... One friend felt something coming on and started to feel slight out of body until after purge, then claimed it did barely anything for him and felt wasn't worth while. Other friend was feeling the effects at a moderate to a very exciting level. SWIM felt very mild mild effects. So SWIM and the one friend who did not feel it decided to try the left over dose. All three decided to pass around the fourth dose until got to bottom where most powder settled. After about 30 mins SWIM started to pack a bowl, once done packing the bowl did not even want to smoke it because the effects kicked in very intensely with a feeling of extreme nausea for a little while, with no purge. The one friend who didn't feel it still felt nothing more than a very very mild effect and extreme nausea. The other friend felt it very intensely and and loved it. But the intensity only lasted a good 20-30 mins of "tripping balls". Any suggestions for next time preparation? any help would be great. Next time SWIM will take the Rue separately 30 mins before ingestion.

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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850594 - 01/17/10 11:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:ilold:

have you taken any medications this week?


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: Moronicus]
    #11850644 - 01/18/10 12:07 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

No SWIM does not take medicine.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850666 - 01/18/10 12:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

sounds like maybe you mistimed the syrian rue

or maybe i mistimed my drinking and mistimed my post.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: Moronicus]
    #11850740 - 01/18/10 12:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Well how long should SWIM simmer and how long should SWIM keep it down for the DMT to be activated fully?


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850792 - 01/18/10 12:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Couple things to try:

1) Filter through a t-shirt, throw the t-shirt away :tongue2:, and then filter through coffee filters many times until it's really really clean. Then put the mixtures in the freezer (or fridge, if you have a super-cold freezer; freezing it defeats the purpose as you just want it to be cold enough for the sediments to drop out quickly) and let them settle for an hour or so. There will still be a layer of sediment on the bottom; pour it out carefully to avoid getting any of the dirt in your final doses.

2) Teabags are definitely good, I recommend using a lot, I put about 4 in a pot. Also several heaping tablespoons of sugar. Don't do this or the next step until all your filtering is done, just warm up the mixtures a bit and then start mixing in your adulterants.

3) If you want to skip purging entirely you can pour a packet of gelatin into the MHRB and then remove the resulting sticky goo which will contain the nauseating tannins. However there is something to be said for minimizing the amount of time that the rue spends in your stomach, the stuff is just not very good for your mind or body and purging will greatly help you sober up. Note, this doesn't really make the trip stronger as you might expect, it's just to avoid the rather unnerving projectile vomiting.

4) Keep the two drinks separate, drink the rue first and wait until you feel funny (about 30 minutes in my experience) and then drink the MHRB. The funny feeling is a mild euphoria that lets you know your MAO enzymes have been deactivated. MHRB is pretty much a ticking time bomb in your stomach and so if the rue hasn't had time to work then it's all gonna come up the way it came before you take your trip to dreamland.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: jimbotron]
    #11850823 - 01/18/10 12:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for advice but how long should SWIM keep it down?


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850855 - 01/18/10 01:02 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

As long as you can, of course :smile: You don't really have a choice in the matter. You can try to bargain with 'them' to keep it down just one minute longer, but they won't care and, quite frankly, neither will you.

But I guess you're asking me how long it takes to get a good trip. It's tough to say. I typically manage 30 minutes after the first sip of mimosa. I rarely make it through an entire prepared dose if it's got tannins in it, because the stuff tastes like death warmed over. You just gotta listen to your body. I drink it slow and steady, because if I try to chug it I become nauseous much sooner. I drink some lukewarm water to settle my stomach in between sips, and just close my eyes and focus all my energy on keeping that stuff down, and when I finally do throw up I see starbursts and tracers and ripples and that's when the trip really begins.

I'll say this much, if things start to seem weird -- like if you have some music on, it will be Different -- and you haven't thrown up yet, it's on like donkey kong and you are in the home stretch.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: jimbotron]
    #11850882 - 01/18/10 01:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

How long should SWIM boil?


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850922 - 01/18/10 01:25 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Actually, looking at your dosages, I think if anything you should use way more MHRB. I typically use 50g per dose, like I said I don't often finish it, you can always freeze the leftovers. Also I take 5g of rue. (I'm pretty sure I got these dosages from a Terence McKenna clip, which might explain their size :smile:)

As far as boiling, I guess I simmer about an hour. I throw each component into a liter of water, with a teaspoon of vinegar and a dash of lemon juice, and then let it boil down about halfway; by that point it's just a matter of how concentrated you want your doses to be, which is a matter of personal preference. I like my doses to be dilute, about 2 cups of each. Some people say they should each be the size of a double espresso, but some people have iron stomachs too.


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: jimbotron]
    #11850952 - 01/18/10 01:33 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Wow 50g. anyone have good effects on lesser amounts?


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Re: Mimosa Hostilis/ Syrian Rue weak experience [Re: ThirdEye4103]
    #11850986 - 01/18/10 01:44 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Again I usually end up ingesting more like 25-30g. I like to hedge on the side of more trippy, so that I can go as far as my body will allow.

From my experience, there's no such thing as too much DMT. It's not really like shrooms or acid in that regard. You just get more and more couch-locked. With shrooms, I feel, you take too much and you are almost certain to have a bad trip. I've never actually had a 'bad' ayahuasca trip, I've had moments where I saw disturbing images and felt very critical of my life but they passed and I don't regret them because they happened for a reason and the overall experience was beautiful.

Too much rue is much more of a concern.


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