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Blue Lotus questions
    #11826419 - 01/14/10 12:24 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I bought some blue lotus and was wondering if anyone has had any honest-to-god experience with it.  I don't like pot, so I probably wont be mixing it with that.  Especially since the alkaloid in it seems to be alcohol soluble.

I've heard of a lot of people getting sexually aroused.  If it's a sedative, I don't really see that happening, so could I get some insight on that?

I read an extraction post on here where you soak/blend it in everclear, then evaporate the everclear, was wondering if anyone's tried that and if it works.

Most common one has to be mixing it with wine, but I like dry wine, and fiance likes sweet wine, neither of us can drink much of the other one's preference.

I only bought 14 grams, so was just curious.  I would assume the extraction method makes the most sense and put the resin into a tea that we would both like.

Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11827260 - 01/14/10 08:40 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

This thread was moved from The Ethnobotanical Garden.

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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11827456 - 01/14/10 09:52 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i smoked a HUGE joint of it between smoking joints of herb. it kinda reminded me of smoking opium but the weird part was this strange anxiety i had after i smoked it.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11827475 - 01/14/10 09:56 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I've done an alcohol extraction, but haven't tried it.
When i rolled up a lotus blunt, it had mellow, but very enjoyable effects.
The blunt itself didn't taste good, but not bad either.
Definitely a better smoke than a lot of comparable herbs.
Stinks up the room a bit, but the smell doesn't linger for long if you keep the window open. Much better in this regard than damiana.
Rolls alright, but the material included some stiff, almost woodlike parts of the petals that i had to break up thoroughly (not difficult, though) before i could roll them up.
A few minutes after smoking, i felt relaxed, and slightly out-of-place, music was more enjoyable and tactile sensitivity was heightened a bit.
The latter might account for "aphrodisiac" effects- i've never heard reliable accounts of a true aphrodisiac that instantly gets you horny instead of just making sex more enjoyable, increasing empathy, producing a "beer goggles" effect or causing an erection.
Anyway, effects lasted for about an hour after smoking, i was basically lying on the couch completely relaxed and feeling fine (total, but very comfortable couch lock), then fell asleep.
After a brief slumber, i woke up, took a bath and decided to roll up another one, but this just caused a little drowsiness.
In both cases, it had no intoxicant effects, meaning that there was no buzz to the high.
I could imagine it to be a better sleep aid than sex aid, but i've heard different reports from people who drank lotus wine with their wife.
Smoking it again two days later, i noticed almost nothing- tolerance seems to be a huge issue with a substance that has such subtle effects.
This is why i haven't tried my extract yet, i want to wait for some time to ensure i don't have any tolerance left.
All in all, i find blue lotus to be a very friendly, humble and enjoyable substance.
Effects are much milder than those of marijuana, so one shouldn't expect too much of it.
But if you're looking for a light sedative that doesn't fuck you up all day and don't intend to consume it frequently, i can recommend it.

@ tealeaf : i noticed no anxiety whatsoever, maybe this was the weed?
It's not that unusual for cannabis to cause anxiety.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Lizardman]
    #11827485 - 01/14/10 09:59 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

true true. i only noticed it after i smoked the blue lotus. plus i had basically smoked myself sober by that point so anxiety from the herb is outta the question, only get that when i get REALLY high for the first time in a day. that was the weird part was that i was sooooo chill but i had this weird lingering anxiety

very interesting experience. i was interested in making the wine but lost interest


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: tealeaf]
    #11827486 - 01/14/10 09:59 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i make a lotus wine every few months. I use both the white and blue lotus. I steep it for about a week or two and I strain it the moment i want to drink it instead of straining it all at once.

i use a decent red wine. something not shitty tasting atleast. and louts doest really make it taste much different. kinda taste good imo:shrug:

then i smoke a herb/lotus joint while drinking a few glasses and its a great mellow subtle feeling. Very relaxing and content with your surroundings. Its good if you cant smoke while your somewhere maybe and you want  a diff buzz then just alcohol alone.
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There's many different ways you can prepare your "blue lotus wine recipe," but remember that everyone is affected differently. Either you smoke the blue lotus or drink the blue lotus, remember to always have company while you drink the Blue Lotus Wine so your always putting safety first.

Now many people ask, "should I use a red or a white when i prepare my blue lotus recipe?". In our eyes it doesn't make too much of a difference. Obviously the Egyptians hundreds of years ago mixed their blue lotus with red wine, but the white wine in today's recipe will give you the same desired effect. You may see some discoloration in the white wine after marinating. So lets get down to the recipe...



Ingredients:

1 bottle of red or white wine

1 wine cork

10-20 grams of Blue Lotus (petals and bulbs)

1 tablespoon of honey (optional)



First you open up your bottle of red or white wine and drink a small amount to make room for the blue lotus.

Second you take your 10-20 grams of blue lotus and stuffed it inside the bottle of wine. Make sure to include both the petals and the bulbs so you marinate all the active ingredients.

Third you cork the bottle nice and tight with all the blue lotus inside, and then place it into the refrigerator. Even if its red wine, still stick it in the fridge.

Fourth, you let your blue lotus wine sit for at least a few hours to a week in the fridge. The Egyptians would generally give the bottle 3 weeks, so the longer the better..

Fifth: After keeping in the fridge for your period of time, you're ready to drink your blue lotus wine. If it's a white wine you can leave it in the fridge and if a red you may want to sit it outside for a few hours to catch up with the air temperature.

Now this one bottle of blue lotus wine can be used for up to 2 people depending on how potent the effects you want. Generally, the bottle of blue lotus can be used by 1 person at a weight of 170 lbs. There is an option to use honey, depending if you like the taste or not. It can sometimes be a tad bit bitter, and if so, add a bit of honey to your wine to sweeten it up. This won't change the effects, only the taste.

As far as experiences with this blue lotus recipe, we think you will be quite pleased. It's simple and it will give you the euphoric/happy/relaxed feeling you've been searching for. It's also fun to experience what the egyptians experienced centuries ago if you're into history at all. We are yet to find a company that bottles Blue Lotus wine, but we continue our search for this product. I guess its so easy and fun to make blue lotus wine at home, that there probably isn't a market for such a luxury.






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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: tealeaf]
    #11827489 - 01/14/10 10:00 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

oh yea good report though bro


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: tealeaf]
    #11829687 - 01/14/10 04:25 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i've been using this stuff for years, but generally use seeds rather than leaves.  i soak them in vodka and let it sit for 24 hours (that's generally the sweet spot with potency dropping after that).  when it's ready i pound 3-5 shots in a row.  can be very euphoric.  i've had hit and miss experiences with smoking petals.  have had intense mind-numbing euphoria, but generally nothing much.

with some people it is definitely an aphrodesiac.  i've never had that experience but i know someone who does with a fair amount of consistency.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: asagao]
    #11832353 - 01/14/10 11:00 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

so drinking it would probably be more effective than smoking it per gram?

Secondly, I read a pretty simple way to extract into a resin form, anyone tried that?  Know it's effects?


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11832444 - 01/14/10 11:14 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

sorry, forgot to mention the resin extraction with alcohol.  i've done it and gotten a nice yellow resin... that did almost nothing (consumed orally).  i wouldn't waste the time or materials unless you have a lot of cheap material laying around (which if you're using seeds you should - $5 for a big ass bag at the chinese grocer).  smoking resin might have better effects.  never tried it.

i've found that drinking it in a 30-40% alcohol maceration has the best consistent effects.  whereas, i've gotten insane euphoria from smoking, but getting that is like trying to flip a coin and get it to land on its edge. 

you might also give drinking and smoking at the same time a try.  i never have because i found petals to be less effective for soaking in alcohol than seeds or leaves (seeds being the best) and i stopped buying them. 

for best results i do 50-60 (white lotus cause blue lotus seeds are more expensive and harder to find) seeds macerated in 30-40% vodka (blueberry flavored for taste purposes) for 24 hours.  i pound 3-5 shots and then let the effects settle in.  wouldn't drink any more than that because of too much alcohol mixed with too much lotus is super fun until you start projectile vomiting everywhere for 5 hours.  also wouldn't space the shots out cause you want the effects to hit all together.  if you're smaller or have low alcohol tolerance then do 2-3.5 shots.

note: don't grind the seeds up when you macerate.  for some reason it doesn't work. put them in whole.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: asagao]
    #11832606 - 01/14/10 11:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I don't have seeds, just the flower parts.  Any idea on a potency ratio of seeds to petals?


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11832672 - 01/14/10 11:58 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i'm pretty sure petals are supposed to be more potent.  but for some reason i haven't gotten good results mixing even large amounts with alcohol. 

despite petals being more potent, seeds are cheaper, so you just add more.

even though you don't have seeds, you could have them as soon as tomorrow.  just about any asian/chinese grocery store has dried ones.  unless you live in the middle of nowhere, they're out there.


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    #11833281 - 01/15/10 03:49 AM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: FrenchMachine]
    #11835342 - 01/15/10 01:53 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

I do live in the middle of nowhere, more in the middle of nowhere than most people who claim to live in the middle of nowhere.

I'm not scared of getting caught, I just don't want to do anything that's illegal, plus I don't really like the smell of pot (I know, crazy.)  My son is too young to know what's going on, he's two, but I don't want to push the envelope and make him think it's okay to do drugs later on (hypocritical I know).  But I've never done and never will do something actually harmful or addictive.  Even though I know pot isn't, I just don't want the whole, "It's okay" image.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Pony]
    #11838235 - 01/15/10 09:48 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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Pony said:I don't want to push the envelope and make him think it's okay to do drugs later on (hypocritical I know).  But I've never done and never will do something actually harmful or addictive.  Even though I know pot isn't, I just don't want the whole, "It's okay" image.



:facepalm:

If you don't like pot, that's cool, but don't go spreading the idea that "drugs aren't okay." That thought process is fucking stupid and is the reason the War on Drugs is ruining so many lives.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: NetDiver]
    #11838264 - 01/15/10 09:56 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

i think smoking the herb around your children at a young age will help them learn that mj is not a evil thing or a "gateway drug"... i stronglhy believe it shold be called a herb, not drug...but i  guess anything that gets your feeling the tiniest bit happy is a drug??:shrug:

ofcourse if you a junkie and shoot up or snort coke infront of your kid...thats a diff story.

but if they grow up with it(herb) and is taught what it is..and how to respect it....is a good thing. get to their developing minds before the DARE fuckers get to him and brainwash him.

just my opinion..other wise hell grow up thinking its bad..because thats what he was grown up to believe.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11838408 - 01/15/10 10:36 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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asagao said:
(that's generally the sweet spot with potency dropping after that).  .




What do you mean exactly? Does the alcohol degrade the active ingredients after some time?
My extract has been sitting in the fridge for...about 3 weeks now, probably more.
I recently drank another extract i made from 5 grams of African lion's ear and it did nothing, even though a gram of smoked material from the same sample produced a very nice sedative effect.


Another question : has anyone here tried lotus extractions with naphta and the like?


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: Lizardman]
    #11838447 - 01/15/10 10:43 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

ps..just made an order for some lotus extract..20x :smile: more lotus wine for next weekend. heh


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: nowwhoutthink]
    #11841508 - 01/16/10 02:03 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i dunno lizardman.  i have no idea what the science is behind it.  i couldn't even guess why 24 hours seems to be the best.  i've had alright stuff from time periods less and more than 24 hours, but i seem to get the most consistent, best potency from letting it sit for 24.


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Re: Blue Lotus questions (moved) [Re: asagao]
    #11841793 - 01/16/10 03:04 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

the longer the better...if your making lotus wine.

I let it soak for at least 3 weeks and keep the lotus in and just strain as being drunk


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