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OfflineHamurabi
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i need an expert's opinion!!
    #1182410 - 01/01/03 05:13 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

hello guys and a happy new year again!
my mom wants to trip but she is 45 years old and her heart is a little weak! do the shrooms make the heart pulse rate(or whatever it's called) go up?

sorry for my shitty english
thx


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182413 - 01/01/03 05:16 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

-grin- you tell us, you have tripped before, have you not? I cannot help you/her decide, but if you are worried and she does decide to try them, go for a low dose... an upper 1 or lower 2.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182469 - 01/01/03 06:39 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If your worried about it you will think about nothing else during the trip.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182475 - 01/01/03 06:47 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

If you want an expert opinion, I don't think this is the place to find it, but the answer to your question is yes.. Shrooms make your pulse more rapid.

Is this potentially dangerous to people with heart conditions? Possibly.. probably, but if they decide to do it anyway, some good advice would be to start with a low dose (maybe 1 gram) and try to remain seated and relaxed.

Grab a cozy blanket or pillow to hold on to (may provide a feeling of security if needed) and enjoy the ride.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Dropsy]
    #1182502 - 01/01/03 07:18 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i am not talking about me here. i have shroomed many times! yesterday i had a level 5 trip :grin:
but i don't know if the shrooms make my pulse more rapid or not!
here i am talking about my mother! she is almost 45 years old and her heart is weak:-(
she doesnt asks about the pulse while on shrooms, i ask! she has no idea about psychedelics!i just want to be sure that i won't kill her or sth! because i convinced her to try shrooms!
Definitely i will give her 15g (fresh). not more


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182519 - 01/01/03 07:41 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You is used as a generic term in my above post. Replace you with her.. It shouldn't be that difficult to figure out.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182552 - 01/01/03 08:04 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm 45 and I trip almost every week between 5 - 7 grams. If you're worried start her out slow. Maybe 2 grams.

I've never noticed a change in my heart rate.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182616 - 01/01/03 09:07 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

According to
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=de&q=heart+rate+psilocybin
psilocybin increases heart rate and blood pressure .


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Anno]
    #1182764 - 01/01/03 11:09 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

thank you all
i will act wisely;-)


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1182881 - 01/01/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

For somebody that has never tripped on anything before, a little bit can go a long way.  Education will help prevent anxiety and panic attacks, both of which also raise the heart rate and blood pressure... set and setting :smile:

The first time I did shrooms, 12g wet took me to a mid 3 and I only weigh around 125 lbs.  A girl that was with us that was just a bit heavier than myself took 8g wet and had a nice low 2.  Her BF, who had done shrooms before took around 20g wet at 185 lbs and had a high 3 to low 4 which quite a bit of anxiety for the first few hours.  All pf-tek, pf-race... blended with oj, sugar, and ice cream on an empty tummy.


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: Hamurabi]
    #1183469 - 01/01/03 07:07 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Tell your Mom that I'm 49 and have high blood pressure that is controlled with the medication Prinivil, so that my pressure stays at 120/80. My pulse is usually 72. Mushrooms do increase blood pressure a bit, but so does a couple of beers, exercise, or having sex. It is not like MDMA which has caused my pressure to rise to 165/90 for a short time, but even that is not dangerously high (just to give a comparison). I don't know what you mean by her heart being "a little weak." I  have a mitral valve prolapse (heart murmur) that wasn't discovered til I was in my 30's, but I don't think of myself having a weak heart. There are no symptoms like rapid or irregular beating, or lightheadedness. I practice Yoga and exercise with a Bowflex. I am in good health,  seem to appear to others to be 20 years younger (firm, slim, non-smoker) and do not believe that mushrooms are dangerous to my constitution - but I can only speak for myself. In fact, I believe that the inner projects the outer, so that the subjective experience of timelessness has an objective effect on one's psychophysical being. In other words, the psychedelic experience keeps one young, providing one is already 'young at heart' :smile:   


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Re: i need an expert's opinion!! [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #1183913 - 01/02/03 04:02 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

thank you friends:-)


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