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InvisibleHongosmeester
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Bay Area pan subb patch
    #1181921 - 12/31/02 01:23 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I went out the last 2 days and found 2 patches of what i believe to be subbs. i have tried AGAIN to upload pictures and can't .I have some nice photo's too :frown:


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1182285 - 12/31/02 09:11 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Best not be my SUBBS!!  :mad: :mad:


hehehehehe...

What do they lok like, and where are you finding htem!? oww im too durnk to type anymore!

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: angryshroom]
    #1182399 - 01/01/03 02:59 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Hey Hongo- Thats gr8, glad to hear it. But where in the Bay are we talkin about? A more specific location would really help us out Help you Out since your not quite sure you found subbs or not. What kind of habitat were they found in (rotted hay, dung, stables,etc..) whats the color of the spore print, etc.... all of these things are needed and much more for us to know what you've got since you can't upload your pics- =(

I can't help you out personally but many shroomery members can help you upload your pics. Right Gumby?






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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: cube421]
    #1182416 - 01/01/03 03:19 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Yup yup, you can email the pictures to me at g00mbah@hotmail.com and I'll upload/confirm them for ya.

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Gumby]
    #1183564 - 01/01/03 06:16 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Deanofmean is going to upload them for me they probably aren't anybodys patch as they are in a parking lot of a small east bay park and nobody has touched them but me  :blush: and my other hobby is martial arts :blush:The spore prints are jet black. and there are at least 200 of the little beauties . They are growing on rotting leaf litter under some trees.
I know that they are supposed to grow on dung but this area used to be a cow pasture

gumbyedit: road names are a bit too specific for me. 


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Edited by GumbyDude (01/01/03 06:28 PM)

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: angryshroom]
    #1183576 - 01/01/03 06:19 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

well they aren't growing on a 10' pile of horseshit but I'll flip you for them anyway :grin: :shocked: :smirk: :wink:


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1185336 - 01/02/03 12:47 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

pix from Hongosmeester?













:cool: :cool: :cool:

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: deanofmean]
    #1185371 - 01/02/03 01:07 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

gorgeous pics indeed-

What state do you live in again? Definitely no subbs in the mix which means no magic.

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1185380 - 01/02/03 01:13 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: cube421]
    #1185402 - 01/02/03 01:23 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1185464 - 01/02/03 01:56 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Those mushrooms in photo number four are mycena's. See the striate margin (the lines of the gills showing through the caps running from the outer edge of the cap to the center of the cap.

Panaeolus do no have striate margins at all. Psilocybes have some striate margins showing through the caps of the gill plates and so do these Mycenas.

No Panaeous subbalteatus there. If you want some good images check ANgryshroom's post of his Pan Subb. post here at the shroomery or go to http://www.mjshroomjohn.com/species16c.html

and have a shroomy day.

mj

No Pan subbs above.

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1185492 - 01/02/03 02:11 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

hey mj, ur link isnt working.


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: SubGen1us]
    #1185538 - 01/02/03 02:35 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, MJ's prone to typos. here's the link.


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Hongosmeester]
    #1185647 - 01/02/03 03:46 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Those don't look like Panaeolus to me. They look like Naematoloma dispersum. Infact they match up exactly as far as description goes, only thing thats off is the spore print, they should have a purple-brown spore print... I guess that could easily be mistaken for black if it was viewed in a darker area.

If they're not Naematoloma, then they are most likely some species of Psathyella.

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: Gumby]
    #1185938 - 01/02/03 06:41 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)



If they're not Naematoloma, then they are most likely some species of Psathyella. 



I found them to be psathrella hydrophilla. The photo looks just like them. thanks everyone for your help :grin:


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1186045 - 01/02/03 08:20 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:


Panaeolus do no have striate margins at all.  Psilocybes have some striate margins showing through the caps of the gill plates and so do these Mycenas.





sorry Mj
i would beg to differ with you .
generalizations are no damn good including this one  :grin:

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: deanofmean]
    #1187052 - 01/03/03 07:31 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, but, Pans DO NOT have striate margins. ! :tongue: If you have a Panaeolus, they will always have straight margins...no bumps.

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: angryshroom]
    #1187715 - 01/03/03 11:24 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

no argument there .
i was referring to what Mj said about Psilocybes .
>>"Psilocybes have some striate margins showing through the caps of the gill plates"
some, yes but not all .he makes this statement sound all inclusive .
perhaps he put the word "some" in the wrong place ? :confused:

is this off topic ? oh, im so confused .

this is not intended to diss Mj, i have grate respect for the man's knowledge, but in this case, someone who is trying to learn could be misled .

a little knowledge can be dangerous . 

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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: angryshroom]
    #1189148 - 01/04/03 01:04 AM (21 years, 11 months ago)

check out the science pix here:


http://elib.cs.berkeley.edu/cgi/img_query?special=browse&where-genre=Fungi&where-taxon=Naematoloma+dispersum


i believe that this is what you have. dont despair though, fact is that in this game its always best to identify what you have. i personally take photos of everything i run across. if i cant identify it in the field, i come home, identify it, keep a log of what time of year , time date, location,conditions,ect with or on th pik, that way in the future if you come across it again, youll know for certain what it is, plus if you ever want to go looking for it, you can do so......


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Re: Bay Area pan subb patch [Re: calishroomer]
    #1190856 - 01/04/03 05:50 PM (21 years, 11 months ago)

http://www.pilzepilze.de/piga/zeige.htm?name=psathyrella_hydrophila

It looks exactly like this one psathyrella hydrophila
  :grin:


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