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Offlinefeifen

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815066 - 01/12/10 01:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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learningtofly said:
So your solution to police being dicks is to just kill people you don't like? That seems a lot WORSE to me.




No

My solution is to kill off people causing trouble to society

It is a fucking VERY simple concept

I'm not a god damned pacifist

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815074 - 01/12/10 01:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

how do you determine who's causing trouble?


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815083 - 01/12/10 01:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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learningtofly said:
how do you determine who's causing trouble?




for starters- anyone that is raping people would probably fit the profile

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: skatealex2]
    #11815097 - 01/12/10 01:48 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Do those people get a trial?


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815111 - 01/12/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I dunno, the Police is a tough subject.

On the one hand, they chose to do their job knowing that they'd have to enforce laws that are unjust. That makes them bad.

On the other hand, some sort of law is necessary in society, and the overall oppression that exists now is less than it would be if there were no laws.

So I dislike the police, while simultaneously considering them a necessary part of society.

Until the laws are reformed, fuck the police. Sorry decent cops, that's just the way the job goes. :shrug:


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InvisibleCosmic


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815117 - 01/12/10 01:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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feifen said:
Quote:

learningtofly said:
So your solution to police being dicks is to just kill people you don't like? That seems a lot WORSE to me.




No

My solution is to kill off people causing trouble to society

It is a fucking VERY simple concept

I'm not a god damned pacifist




:happyhitler: HEIL!!!


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InvisibleDieCommie

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: NetDiver]
    #11815127 - 01/12/10 01:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hypothetically they could be good, allies of the weak and disenfranchised.  But in reality, at the moment, they are the very antithesis of that - predators who do more harm than good.

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: NetDiver]
    #11815130 - 01/12/10 01:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Samurai Drifter said:
I dunno, the Police is a tough subject.

On the one hand, they chose to do their job knowing that they'd have to enforce laws that are unjust. That makes them bad.


So you're saying that if there's a few unjust laws vs. a grip of just laws, that they are bad? Overall, I would say that they enforce good laws.


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Until the laws are reformed, fuck the police. :shrug:


Police don't control the laws, why not be angry at politicians instead??


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815150 - 01/12/10 01:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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learningtofly said:
Do those people get a trial?




If by trial you mean a bullet between their eyes then yes

You kill them if you catch them in the act and if you have no proof you have no proof

Why let trash live? they WILL cause trouble later on

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learningtofly said:
how do you determine who's causing trouble?




murderers, thiefs, rapists, violent individuals, intoxicated drivers

They all deserve to be shot and killed

they don't deserve life.

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815153 - 01/12/10 01:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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learningtofly said:
Do those people get a trial?




that would probably be fair

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815164 - 01/12/10 01:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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feifen said:
murderers, thiefs, rapists, violent individuals, intoxicated drivers

They all deserve to be shot and killed

they don't deserve life.



:facepalm:

By killing those people, you are becoming a murderer and a violent individual.


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InvisibleCosmic


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: skatealex2]
    #11815187 - 01/12/10 01:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Humans are fucked up. There is no solution to make humans not fucked up, and you don't have one either. Just live with what you have and don't get in trouble with the police. It's that simple.


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: NetDiver]
    #11815196 - 01/12/10 01:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Samurai Drifter said:
Quote:

feifen said:
murderers, thiefs, rapists, violent individuals, intoxicated drivers

They all deserve to be shot and killed

they don't deserve life.



:facepalm:

By killing those people, you are becoming a murderer and a violent individual.





Someone has to do it.

If you want to murder me for getting rid of people who will gladly steal your things, rape your girlfriend and kill her then be my guest.

Or would you like to pay the $ million+ it's going to take to keep him in prison for life?

Your choice. They are menaces to society.

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InvisibleCosmic


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815215 - 01/12/10 02:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815216 - 01/12/10 02:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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feifen said:
Quote:

learningtofly said:
Do those people get a trial?




If by trial you mean a bullet between their eyes then yes

You kill them if you catch them in the act and if you have no proof you have no proof

Why let trash live? they WILL cause trouble later on

Quote:

learningtofly said:
how do you determine who's causing trouble?




murderers, thiefs, rapists, violent individuals, intoxicated drivers

They all deserve to be shot and killed

they don't deserve life.




You're fucked up and your "solution" won't solve shit, on top of that you're "solution" is far worse than having police. Your system has no way of keeping people in check, whats to stop me from killing you? I'll just say "Oh I am the only witness to his crime"

How about this, i don't think you deserve to live because I don't like you.

Dude, do you understand the entire premise of having police in the first place? The whole point was that allowing private citizens to take the law into their own hands wasn't working, so we vested the power to kill/incarcerate with the state.

Your plan basically tells the entire justice system to fuck itself


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: Woohoo]
    #11815258 - 01/12/10 02:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Woohoo said:
I hate the asshole cops, yes i know thats the majority, some of them are actually OK people.



OMFG A SQUEAGLE!:awehigh:


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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815275 - 01/12/10 02:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO LIVE IN HARMONY........................

KILL THE BAD PEOPLE AND LIVE AND LET LIVE :facepalm:

You're arguing "okay so I want to kill you cuz I don't like you"

Well guess what.. that makes you a murderer and a bad person

I'm not trying to seriously argue my point.

It wouldn't work in reality and I know it so stop getting butthurt.

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: feifen]
    #11815287 - 01/12/10 02:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

no i get it, you want to kill for peace. makes no sense.


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Offlinefeifen

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815329 - 01/12/10 02:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Makes perfect sense to me

Kill the bad and let the good live in harmony

I didn't ask you to agree with me :shrug:

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Re: Do you hate the police force? [Re: learningtofly]
    #11815372 - 01/12/10 02:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

feifen.. drop it man. You're making a horrible point. All you're describing is some deranged citizens police force. I dunno if you know this but citizens can be real assholes too, and hell if I would trust the choice of who lives and dies to the common person.  :suicide:


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