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"Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!"
    #11809400 - 01/11/10 04:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If human character is a vital lie, then isn't judging someone by the content of their character just as useless as judging someone by the color of their skin? :strokebeard:

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809415 - 01/11/10 04:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

"if human character is a vital lie"

Huh? Content of their character? What does that mean? Judging by what they do, etc???

Sounds way better than judging by color of skin... unlessssssssssss the said person is mexican :wink:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: andrewss]
    #11809421 - 01/11/10 04:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's equally as useless a reason to judge someone, IMO; what if somebody cannot express themselves in a way which is agreeable to you? Are you going to judge them because of their inability to do so?


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809448 - 01/11/10 04:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yeah... :laugh:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: andrewss]
    #11809459 - 01/11/10 04:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:, so how is it different to judge somebody for not being able to act in a way that is agreeable to you than it is to judge somebody for not being able to have a color of skin that is agreeable to you?


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809460 - 01/11/10 04:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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It's equally as useless a reason to judge someone, IMO; what if somebody cannot express themselves in a way which is agreeable to you? Are you going to judge them because of their inability to do so?




When all of human interpersonal relationships are based on expressing oneself in a manner agreeable to others....then yes, yes I will judge based on character.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: myco99]
    #11809480 - 01/11/10 04:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Says something about interpersonal relationships, doesn't it? :lol:


What ever happened to diversity, and tolerance? :macdre::obamadre::bushdre:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809533 - 01/11/10 04:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Says something about interpersonal relationships, doesn't it? :lol:


What ever happened to diversity, and tolerance? :macdre::obamadre::bushdre:




If you can't observe the major and fundamental differences between discriminating based on race and character then you sir, are an idiot.

That said, we judge people based on character because it is the best series of factors available.  The only person I know to ever claim that diversity should be applied to character judgments is you.  You are really just playing with words, there is no meaning, purpose, or evidence to support your theory.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809546 - 01/11/10 04:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol:, so how is it different to judge somebody for not being able to act in a way that is agreeable to you than it is to judge somebody for not being able to have a color of skin that is agreeable to you?




i dont like this agreeable part? It's not like judgments cant be neutral, imo....


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809547 - 01/11/10 04:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

It's not right to judge someone by the color of their skin.

It's not useless to judge someone by their character. what else would you judge them on?

You can feel however you want about someone's character.

Thats why "character witnesses" can go to court with you. Character IS what you judge someone with.

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: myco99]
    #11809548 - 01/11/10 04:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Poid said:
Says something about interpersonal relationships, doesn't it? :lol:


What ever happened to diversity, and tolerance? :macdre::obamadre::bushdre:




If you can't observe the major and fundamental differences between discriminating based on race and character then you sir, are an idiot.


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That said, we judge people based on character because it is the best series of factors available.


What do you mean by "we"? Why do you suppose that "we" judge people based on the color of their skin?



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The only person I know to ever claim that diversity should be applied to character judgments is you.


So you think that everybody should behave in exactly the same way? :hitlerdance:

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: twiztidthoughts]
    #11809559 - 01/11/10 04:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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:lol:, so how is it different to judge somebody for not being able to act in a way that is agreeable to you than it is to judge somebody for not being able to have a color of skin that is agreeable to you?




i dont like this agreeable part? It's not like judgments cant be neutral, imo....


Well they can either be disagreeable, neutral, or agreeable. :shrug:




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It's not right to judge someone by the color of their skin.


Why not?



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It's not useless to judge someone by their character. what else would you judge them on?

You can feel however you want about someone's character.


If you feel a certain way about a certain individual's character, then that is because you have judged it as being either negative, neutral, or positive.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809563 - 01/11/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

"So you think that everybody should behave in exactly the same way? :hitlerdance:"

Fine, you win, stop judging people based on character :cool:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: myco99]
    #11809569 - 01/11/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I judge people by the color of shit that they take. :glittershitz:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809572 - 01/11/10 04:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe a week away from the shrooms wouldn't be the worst thing for you Ploid :lol:

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: appleorange]
    #11809575 - 01/11/10 05:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I haven't 'shroomed in months.


Acid is way better anyways, 'shrooms are kinda gay in comparison...


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809584 - 01/11/10 05:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Maybe MLK was just trying to rationalize not loving everybody equally.

Edited by xFrockx (01/11/10 05:01 PM)

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: xFrockx]
    #11809591 - 01/11/10 05:02 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Not loving everybody equally? Didn't he want everyone to love each other equally? :confused2:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809600 - 01/11/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Well that's what he said.  But if he's judging people based on the content of the character, he's still judging.

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: xFrockx]
    #11809604 - 01/11/10 05:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's my point; in a way, he was a hypocrite.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11809614 - 01/11/10 05:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I dont like you poid but I do for both reasons so I get extra points... your character AND your race!!! You are a socratic mexican - pretty intense :lol:

:crazy2: I mostly kid :tongue:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: andrewss]
    #11810223 - 01/11/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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You are a socratic mexican - pretty intense :lol:


Yes, I am Mexican, but only in terms of genetics; I don't follow any culture if I can help it, especially Mexican culture...:lol:

:mexican:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: myco99]
    #11810504 - 01/11/10 07:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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When all of human interpersonal relationships are based on expressing oneself in a manner agreeable to others....then yes, yes I will judge based on character.




When all con-men make a living based on expressing oneself in a manner agreeable to others...


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11810527 - 01/11/10 07:10 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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...con-men...


:billymayshead:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810551 - 01/11/10 07:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Bill Mays was cool the way he yelled at you, but wore too much 'Just For Men' beard dye - and I think that is what caused his demise.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11810563 - 01/11/10 07:15 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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...and I think that is what caused his demise.


What, the dye or the yelling? :blah:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810572 - 01/11/10 07:16 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He dyed, can't make it any clearer. :facepalm:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11810578 - 01/11/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810745 - 01/11/10 07:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Quote:

andrewss said:
You are a socratic mexican - pretty intense :lol:


Yes, I am Mexican, but only in terms of genetics; I don't follow any culture if I can help it, especially Mexican culture...:lol:

:mexican:


That is a shame because most cultures have wisdom behind them born of generations of survival and adaptation.  Total rejection of all cultures is just another irrationally extreme (and also impossible) ideal. 

Mexico has an incredibly rich culture which does not just consist of "illegals" riding around in rusty pickup trucks.  Have you ever read any Mexican literature or watched Mexican cinema?  There are some gems!


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Lion]
    #11810769 - 01/11/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Poid said:
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andrewss said:
You are a socratic mexican - pretty intense :lol:


Yes, I am Mexican, but only in terms of genetics; I don't follow any culture if I can help it, especially Mexican culture...:lol:

:mexican:


That is a shame because most cultures have wisdom behind them born of generations of survival and adaptation.


I'll take all the good, and none of the shit that I don't want. :shrug:



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Total rejection of all cultures is just another irrationally extreme (and also impossible) ideal.


Maybe total rejection of totally every single aspect of all cultures is, but I don't see how generally rejecting all cultures is bad; it's not like the majority of things that humans do is good, anyways. :shrug2:


 
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Mexico has an incredibly rich culture which does not just consist of "illegals" riding around in rusty pickup trucks.  Have you ever read any Mexican literature or watched Mexican cinema?  There are some gems!


I know about Mexican culture, and I've been into the deeper parts of Mexico; just like how religions have some gems, so do cultures, but in general, I reject them all.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810780 - 01/11/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Fair enough...We all do our best to sort the dross from the gold, to use a gem of a religious metaphor. :tongue:


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any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Lion]
    #11810787 - 01/11/10 07:48 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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...to use a gem of a religious analogy. :tongue:


:supercrankey:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810821 - 01/11/10 07:52 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

If someone annoys me I won't chill with them but I don't care what they're like. If someones another colour that doesn't necessarily annoy me.


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Grapefruit]
    #11810829 - 01/11/10 07:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Grapefruit said:
If someones another colour that doesn't necessarily annoy me.


So it doesn't necessarily not anoy you, either?


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Lion]
    #11810835 - 01/11/10 07:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Mexico has an incredibly rich culture which does not just consist of "illegals" riding around in rusty pickup trucks.




I once saw a Mexican in a brand new pick-up. It was stolen. :rimshot:


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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #11810838 - 01/11/10 07:54 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Only once? :lol:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: "Not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" [Re: Poid]
    #11810854 - 01/11/10 07:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Woops I'm quite stoned sorry. I meant they don't necessarily annoy me.


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