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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: lmfsmoke]
#11797290 - 01/09/10 04:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can some one clarify this for me. I was under the impression that one or 2 of the JWH's ware on available and legal in the form of Spice blends like Spice Diamond witch I thought ware bullshit at first. I learned this on erowid but its still not clear to me. I saw a 3 Gram packet of Spice Diamond on Amazon for 50$ witch seems like allot unless it is one hit stuff like some good weed. But this is like pure JWH. And I hear people saying it's 5 times more potent as THC. So is this a good deal compared to weed? How much are you suppose to smoke (or Vaporize right?).
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Dionili
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
#11797336 - 01/09/10 04:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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laotzo
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: Dionili]
#11797743 - 01/09/10 05:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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yes it's a good deal compared to weed.
no those spice packets aren't total bullshit, but why do unknown doses on wretched herbal mixes when you can get the pure stuff that they toss on spice at like 3% concentrations.
i can't give dosage advice for you. but i started at ~3 mg.
finally settled on about 5 mg as a proper dose.
usually no need to redose for quite a while.
use the search engine for more info, there are a lot more threads bout this on here, also.
i would expound at length, but i'm whipped.
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: laotzo]
#11803207 - 01/10/10 04:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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youbreakyoubuy said: Anybody tried to vaporize this stuff yet?
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laotzo said: use the search engine...this place is lousy with posts on it. lots of them by me. i'm just too lazy to type it all up again. only thing i want to stress is that it is something like 3 times as potent as pure THC would be in the same dosage by weight. this stuff demands respect. almost every bad experience i have heard of involved ppl whon weren't weighing it but trying to eyeball it, or ppl who tried to do multiple hits like it was pot. that ritual is not even appropriate. smoke one hit of jwh. put it away. smoke bud when you want a better high; it will kick you right back up.
i like the high. i combine it with bud to stretch both. with bud added it's not fake at all. it's just an almost completely head high with no body load. this makes sense since it is a full agonist at the CB1 receptors, which are mostly in the brain. the cb2 receptors are mostly in the gut.
it does give munchies unlike anything since i first got high, but at serious levels it has the almost psychedelic aspect of really strong hash butter ....
i've read that jwh 073 has more action on the cb2 receptors and is only a partial agonist, thus being more in line with the potency of THC. ppl say the mixing jwh 018 1 part to 2 parts jwh 073 most closely simulates a real bud buzz.
all that said. have fun.
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laotzo said: 073 is about the same potency as THC according to wikipedia. at a third or a fifth the potency, it shouldn't be twice the price. i have found it for sale at the same gram price, which is either still too much, or it is a much nicer buzz. i am going to try to get some soon, but for some reason it is much harder to find in the states.
i highly recommend the bud + method. i smoke mine on a cashed bowl of tamped ash. about 3 fat bowls and one hit of jwh 018 and i don't even look at the stash for like 3 hours.
The bud + jwh method works well but honestly your wasting the true potential effects of the jwh this way. Personally the only way I would use the bud + jwh method on a regular basis would be if the bud I had was bunk. To get the full maximum potential out of jwh it should be vaporized. However there are different jwh series and some may be better/worse depending on your body chemistry or strength I have only tried jwh-018 orally placing the material in a capsule and on the tongue and got really high but it seemed like it took a couple of hours before the jwh kicked in. I have other friends that have used the jwh-018 in other various ways and all state that they enjoyed the vaporizing method the best.
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: lmfsmoke]
#11803285 - 01/10/10 04:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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lmfsmoke said: Can you smoke it like weed or tobacco?
I have wondered if you could smoke the jwh material by itself in rolling papers but have not attempted it (yet)! I have had other pals use the jwh with tobacco/cigarettes or cigars and they love it plus with the tobacco/cigarette/cigar method it's stealth also.
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: lts1]
#11803320 - 01/10/10 04:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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lts1 said: I have wondered if you could smoke the jwh material by itself in rolling papers but have not attempted it (yet)! 
how would you do that? the dose size is about this much: ..
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: Envix]
#11806820 - 01/11/10 08:52 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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the guy i read about cut his papers into one cm squares, then layed the jwh onto it via liquid measure. he was able to get 3 mg per square, and just laid the square into a homeroll cig or put it on bud.
i've also melted jwh onto papers and let it cool....but i didn't feel like it worked all that well.
o, btw, i've read that since jwh condenses immediately on anything cooler than it, filters will prevent you from gettin off if you lay it onto filtered smokes.
i don't do tobacco anymore, so that is hearsay.
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: laotzo]
#11806849 - 01/11/10 08:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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i would concur with that. when vaping it out of a lightbulb, i often get a film on my tongue. i figure it's the jwh condensing like you said.
i prefer to just sprinkle it into rolled cigs though. it's not as efficient, but it's so goddamn convenient for me, already being a smoker.
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I wonder if JWH has anything to do with this weird pimple that formed in the middle of my bottom lip..
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: Envix]
#11808169 - 01/11/10 01:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can u take it orally?
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Re: Can someone explain JWH-018 to me. [Re: mellowparty]
#11808448 - 01/11/10 02:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Envix said: I wonder if JWH has anything to do with this weird pimple that formed in the middle of my bottom lip..
nope, that's the herp 
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mellowparty said: Can u take it orally?
yes you can take it orally, if you ask how, do a quick search "oral jwh"
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