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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11760653 - 01/03/10 06:42 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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:rofl2:

My newest rating.  From HippiexChild:

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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!:hitlerdance:




I don't know what I'm going to do.  Truly, I am crying inside.  What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that.  Will someone give me a hug?






you will make it,you're going to have to go through years of psychiatry for this trauma:curbyourenthusiasm:


lol, i just gave him a new rating.
he is probably going to counter it in a child like manner like he did yours.

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: elementswrath]
    #11760678 - 01/03/10 06:52 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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fireworks_god said:
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elementswrath said:
you don't really know what open minded is do you?




Well, if one were to judge based upon the merits of the original post of this thread, "open-minded" would be characterized by paranoia and a certain degree of some elements of schizophrenia.

Any explanation can be given for any phenomenon as long as there is no eventuality in which any sort of evidence will be produced or the theory will have any degree of predictive value. If a theory has no predictive value and doesn't have any actual means of evidencing anything, then it is completely worthless.

OP, with your insight into the matter, any predictions? Any evidence?




couldn't have said it better myself:congrats::curbyourenthusiasm:

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: elementswrath]
    #11761955 - 01/03/10 10:33 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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elementswrath said:
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zappaisgod said:
:rofl2:

My newest rating.  From HippiexChild:

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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!:hitlerdance:




I don't know what I'm going to do.  Truly, I am crying inside.  What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that.  Will someone give me a hug?






you will make it,you're going to have to go through years of psychiatry for this trauma:curbyourenthusiasm:


lol, i just gave him a new rating.
he is probably going to counter it in a child like manner like he did yours.




Wow, do you really have that much a life to roam the forums and find my thread just to tell everyone I gave you a bad rating? Locked this forum moderator. Thanks. And possibly ban this guy for trolling.

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
    #11761965 - 01/03/10 10:35 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Try using Wiki as a source in College Term papers..they won't accept it.




Right you are buddy. I'll recieve a 5 star rating please for being brighter than everyone else on these forums!

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
    #11761990 - 01/03/10 10:39 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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At ThreatsWatch.org, Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton have dug up the bizarre and unsettling issuance of an executive order recently signed by President Barack Obama. Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425, signed December 16 and released a day later, grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) rights on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Schippert and Middleton note that Obama’s order removes protections placed upon INTERPOL by President Reagan in 1983. Obama’s order gives the group the authority to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — which means this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against governmental abuse. “Property and assets,” including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations and records are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities.




http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-surrenders-u-s-sovereignty-his-interpol-executive-order/

That was the only thing Obama signed that anybody has been whinging about sovereignty that I know of.  Given the nebulosity of his post I had to guess.  It has not one thing to do with "climategate" which is this:

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The controversy arose after various allegations were made including that climate scientists colluded[7] to withhold scientific information,[8] interfered with the peer-review process to prevent dissenting scientific papers from being published,[9] deleted e-mails and raw data to prevent data being revealed under the Freedom of Information Act,[10] and manipulated data to make the case for global warming appear stronger than skeptics claim it is.[10]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incident

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Which statement woud you like evidence for?




Your dumb. :rofl2: :andyistic:  Everything. I want you to support your evidence on everything your  :rofl2: :andyistic: trying to disagree with me on. Go ahead now.. No youtube videos, No wikipedia. As i have been told on these forums, all of that is unreliable. :brucelee:




And those caskets they call bathtubs?  They really are bathtubs.  They're for washing hippies that finally come in from the wilderness of stupidity they have wandered in for 40 years




Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: fireworks_god]
    #11762084 - 01/03/10 10:56 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
:rofl2:

My newest rating.  From HippiexChild:

Quote:

You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!:hitlerdance:




I don't know what I'm going to do.  Truly, I am crying inside.  What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that.  Will someone give me a hug?



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elementswrath said:
you don't really know what open minded is do you?




Well, if one were to judge based upon the merits of the original post of this thread, "open-minded" would be characterized by paranoia and a certain degree of some elements of schizophrenia.

Any explanation can be given for any phenomenon as long as there is no eventuality in which any sort of evidence will be produced or the theory will have any degree of predictive value. If a theory has no predictive value and doesn't have any actual means of evidencing anything, then it is completely worthless.

OP, with your insight into the matter, any predictions? Any evidence?




Glad that you asked. I will give you some information based on logic based on assumption. Not using youtube, or wikipedia since everyone wants to cry about it.

The New World Order
A New World Order has been a long time in the making, its pieces fitting into place from divergent realms and with many different players. Believing what they are doing is for the benefit of mankind, many of the players do not necessarily understand their role in developing a system that will ultimately enslave a large part of the population and condemn them to eternal suffering.

Acting largely behind the scenes and outside of public view is a small group of satanic inspired elites secretly manipulating world events to advance the nefarious agenda the antichrist will use for his own wicked purposes.

To keep the masses blissfully unaware of this evil agenda, they are made happy with a steady flow of entertainment and sophisticated propaganda while being chemically dumbed down with drugs and GMO foods. These 21st Century serfs have been basically “conditioned” to comply and “taught” to embrace their slavery.

While the message of the elite is that, “Resistence is futile,” there is thankfully a remnant of Christian patriots and freedom fighters exposing the evil antichrist agenda and giving hope to those few people that choose to be awake.

If you are to survive the coming holocaust, it’s important you better understand the agenda of the enemy and have some resources to resist the lies of the antichrist. This website is dedicated to exposing this destructive New World Order agenda and empowering you with knowledge to overcome this monumental deception.

The New World Order
“New World Order,” is a term used to describe the uniting of the world’s superpowers to secure and maintain “global peace.” World leaders are excited at the prospects for peace and there has been much talk about entering a “new era” and the establishment of a “New World Order.”

It is not some prophetically speculative or futuristic fairy tale, but a real world reality.
Gears and levers of history have been moved and adjusted, and a large-scale game of Monopoly has been played, with real currency and real assets shifting hands - a game with very real winners and losers.

The Bible reveals the true agenda of the New World Order. One part of the agenda is economic control of the world. The Bible states that one day the antichrist will be able to track and control all financial transactions and that NO MAN will be able to buy or sell anything unless he has the mark of the beast.
[Note] [They have already made a chip and it is in testing right now with people who have already accepted this chip and will have no choice in anything when the NWO takes over]

Alas, the New World Order.

Then, as now, most American remain asleep to this creeping collectivist takeover of the world and the setting up of world government. How many 9/11’s will it take before people understand how the manipulation of our fear is how criminal fascists take away our freedom? How many banker bailouts will it take before people understand the international financial elites are stealing our pension funds and enslaving us to a lifetime of debt?

When will the citizens arise and declare,
“I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”?

“It is well the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford

With the son of the man who introduced the New World Order to America in place, George W. Bush’s mandate was to further his father’s agenda of extending government control over American citizens and empowering the tentacles of a One World Government into foreign lands.

Recognizing that no Collectivist movement can succeed unless it has control over the movement of it’s citizens and insider intelligence of those who oppose them, Globalists along with President G.W. Bush, needed a Pearl Harbor “crisis” to move their agenda forward.

That crisis came compliments of a group of Muslims, perhaps even orchestrated by the CIA and/or FBI on Sept. 11, 2001.

Globalists everywhere celebrated the attack on America as their goals are now being accomplished before their very eyes. Their desire to instill fear into the hearts of Americans has been accomplished as Americans became willing to exchange their freedom for a false feeling of security. Their goal to destroy our free constitutional Republic is accomplished as we allow the government to further intrude into our private lives in the name of “national security”.

Following the events of that day, Americans have experienced a wholesale loss of personal freedom in payment for a manufactured security “crisis”. The Bush administration introduced its “War on Terror”, and within weeks, Americans saw their constitutional guarantees of freedom stripped away by the “Patriot Act” with its plethora of legislative changes which significantly increased the surveillance and investigative powers of law enforcement agencies in the United States. In what could be described as a coup d’etat, globalists in our government also created a new fascist government initiative dubbed, “Homeland Security” and renewed their criminal government intrusion into the private lives of Americans once used by Richard Nixon in his war on anti-war protestors, environmentalists, and civil rights activists.

Council of Foreign Relations
Its intentions

The late Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton’s mentor), Professor of History at Georgetown University, member of the CFR, stated in his book, "Tragedy & Hope":

"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."

Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the Cfr for 16 years, warned the American people of the organization’s intentions:

"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereingty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."

And Dan Smoot, a former member of the FBI Headquarters staff in Washington, D.C., summarized the organization’s purpose as follows:

"The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."

In other words, the CFR’s activities are treasonous to the U.S. Constitution. Their goal is to put an end to the United States of America, and to make the country a part of their global government scheme.

The members of the CFR dominate almost every aspect of American life, yet most Americans have never even heard of the Council on Foreign Relations. One reason for this is probably because there are over 170 journalists, correspondents, and communications executives who are members of the CFR, and who do not write about the organization. Also, it is an express condition of membership that no one is to disclose what goes on at CFR meetings.

Congressmen John R. Rarick had warned:

"The CFR, dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media, should be familiar to every American concerned with good government, and with preserving and defending the U.S. Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media, usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities.

"The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitution Republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship."

The CFR now has its main headquarters at the corner of park Avenue and 68th Street in New York City, in a building given to the organization by the Rockefeller family in 1929. Its main goal is still to create a one-world government by destroying the freedom and independence of all nations, especially the United States. And David Rockefeller continues to be its Chairman of the Board.




Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: elementswrath]
    #11762124 - 01/03/10 11:06 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

i am not sure what to think at this point in my life, but i do believe our government most likely has hidden motives and is power hungry and the potential for them to be really corrupt is there, but i have no proof, i dont believe in all of our laws but i enjoy the safety i have here.

I believe that the only true corruption with proof is in our society itself. i see it everyday, and it is a matter of opinion, but we have the strength and love to become the change we want to see in the world.


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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11762810 - 01/04/10 01:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

The rabbit hole is deep, a good place to start study would be general history and religion.  Factions and societies stretch back through time and have evolved and shape life as we know it today. 

hmm... what i'm trying to say is that we as men are in a very funny place.  Ponder your place in the cosmos, many have and many wish to be god and dictate human fate above the masses.

Our everyday life easily distracts us from the fact that we in and of the cosmos are absolutely divine! 

when you think of humans as you would think of ants,  you may elevate yourself to a higher more godly status and as your foot may dictate the timely fate of an anthill your manifest power may dictate the fate of man. 

The ancient Pharisees thought of themselves as gods among men, creating beacons for the ages, though enslaving many. Truly man has the ability to dictate human fate as god himself!

What some men seek is control man's time and destiny,  which is a godly, yet attainable endeavor.

Men would also seek to control you, for you are men too and have the same ability to compete in influencing our cosmic fate as men on this planet if you are to realize.

are you catching my drift?

Where will your bloodline be in 200 years?  will it die out, or still face the magnificence of the creator?


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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11762942 - 01/04/10 02:42 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[




No, I don't watch videos and prefer to read thoughts of other posters themselves, although I did read what you posted (although you'll need to provide a link to the source of that article).

Genetically modified foods? What's wrong with genetically modified foods?
The only actual substance found regarding any of these claims is the identification of the Council on Foreign Relations, but its all only speculation on its intentions.
Speculation tinged with fear.....

Its one thing to recognize that there are all sorts of power on this planet and that these powers have all kinds of influences on the course of the progress of human civilization.... its another thing to be afraid of the fact that there could possibly be things that have more power than one person and to subsequently entertain paranoid delusions regarding the "true" intent of these powers as to satisfy a psychological need to feel more in control of one's own life.


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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11763102 - 01/04/10 04:12 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!




So you think climategate is something other than that?  Why don't you show us all what it really is, then?  Thanks in advance for continuing to beclown yourself.


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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11763630 - 01/04/10 08:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Glad that you asked. I will give you some information based on logic based on assumption. Not using youtube, or wikipedia since everyone wants to cry about it.

The New World Order
A New World Order has been a long time in the making, its pieces fitting into place from divergent realms and with many different players. Believing what they are doing is for the benefit of mankind, many of the players do not necessarily understand their role in developing a system that will ultimately enslave a large part of the population and condemn them to eternal suffering.
...........................................



Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[




You're new here.  Perhaps you didn't know you were supposed to supply lnks to your Cut and Paste jobs.  I'll do it for you:
http://newworldorderinfo.com/

A Prison Planet/ Alex Jones affiliate..  Which, by the way, has no problem citing wikipedia itself:
http://www.newworldorderinfo.com/trilateral-commission/47/trilateral-commission-wikipedia/

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The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, founded in 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who pushed the idea of including Japan at the Bilderberg meetings he was attending but was rebuffed. Along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few others, including from the Brookings Institution, Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, he convened initial meetings from which grew the Trilateral organisation. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. It consists of approximatively 300-350 private citizens from Europe, Pacific Asia (Asia & Oceania), and North America, and exists to promote closer political and economic cooperation between these areas.

Read more at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





You seem to have quite a few religious beliefs fluttering about in that confused head of yours.


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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: fantastiColor]
    #11763856 - 01/04/10 09:37 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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i am not sure what to think at this point in my life, but i do believe our government most likely has hidden motives and is power hungry and the potential for them to be really corrupt is there, but i have no proof, i dont believe in all of our laws but i enjoy the safety i have here.

I believe that the only true corruption with proof is in our society itself. i see it everyday, and it is a matter of opinion, but we have the strength and love to become the change we want to see in the world.




totally.
but i don't believe the one world currency (if it is going to happen) is going to happen anytime soon.
for one, i don't think every one agrees to the idea and either there will be a third world war or it stays as it is.

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11763995 - 01/04/10 10:20 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!




Which is exactly why I linked you directly to the text of the executive order which is in question.

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Redstorm]
    #11765405 - 01/04/10 02:36 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

These guys are morons. And this debate has turned into people giving each other bad ratings. Its ridiculous.

Just lock this thread please. Thanks.

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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: HippiexChild]
    #11766374 - 01/04/10 05:03 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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At the request of the thread's originator.

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