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Offlinebrian_orion
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Direct Route to Heaven!
    #1176602 - 12/29/02 04:52 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

For the past little while, I've been thinking about religions and the concept of afterlife, and I am fairly confident I have the answer. The afterlife is merely a hallucinogenic state produced by a "spark" in our grey matter that continues to burn after our physical death.

Those familiar with lucid dreaming or intense salvia/DMT voyages will understand best. The aformentioned experiences cause one to believe they are somewhere else; a real world created entirely within one's thought processors. I believe once an individual dies, an entire dream world is created for the deceased where there "soul" will carry on for eternity, and the dream state, or "afterlife" is manifested and fleshed out according to experiences, dreams, hopes and wishes stored within a person's sub-conscience "hard drive" so to speak.

Allow me to elaborate on how this ties in with religions. For example, Christianity. Should a Christian not live up to the standards of Christianity, which are stored in the subconscience, they will be shuttled to "hell" for eternity... this "hell" is the dream world created after death. They are sent to hell because perhaps, they sinned somewhere in life, defied a commandment or two. All of this information is kept in the brain and is the reason for the voyage into hell.

My afterlife concept is one of the most comforting and genuinly inspiring ideas I have ever had. Since I firmly believe all of this, I can go about life without fear of death; without fear of anything, for death is the ultimate. Everything ends at death. Removal of this fear allows me to live without boundaries, for I know when I die I will be having sex with high school crushes and smoking joints with Joey Ramone.

I suppose this is a new religion; I am not forcing it on anyone, but rather sharing a concept. It allows for life without boundaries. I say do what feels right. It'll all end up better in the end.

I am no scientist or gynocologist, just some guy with a couple ideas. Thanks for listening!



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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1176636 - 12/29/02 05:31 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds pretty neat.

Looks comforting for you, but what about the Christians that will be in hell for eternity?

I've heard something about how your mind goes into a temporary dream world after death, the release of certain chemicals and such. I haven't read anything that I necessarily believe, nor do I necessarily care exactly how it happens. All i can say is that I think it is all temporary, the body completely stops functioning, the state your mind is put into after death eventually stops. Our thoughts cease to exist. How do i know? I don't of course. I don't see any reason for the person we see inside us to continue on. But what i do dream about are things like... What will the forces of nature bring next after this one has passed? I don't even think "God" knows.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1176707 - 12/29/02 06:02 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting post. I especially like this line.....

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Removal of this fear allows me to live without boundaries, for I
know when I die I will be having sex with high school crushes and smoking joints with Joey Ramone.




I was thinking about that just the other day. I work with this girl who is unbelievably beautiful. She's definitely not my type, so i'll never have her in this life. I decided that i'm ok with waiting until I get to heaven where I can make love to her. But i'm sure when I get to the other side, things like that won't be that important.



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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1176735 - 12/29/02 06:19 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Great ideas... your talk of eliminating the fear of death reminds me of something Jim Morrison said:

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free."


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Learyfan]
    #1176751 - 12/29/02 06:31 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Learyfan, why wait until you die? I could go on for hours about mating/attraction, but my hands are cold and I can't type. Just achieve confidence my friend. Girls are not much different than anything else you want. Just go for it. My thoughts are kind of jumbled, I can explain better. PM me.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Droz]
    #1176816 - 12/29/02 07:11 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

*BUMP*


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178113 - 12/29/02 06:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Im open to the possibility that the dream world is a very real place, and not just a figment of our imagination.

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178124 - 12/29/02 06:09 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you for this wonderful and inspiring post.

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I suppose this is a new religion; I am not forcing it on anyone, but rather sharing a concept. It allows for life without boundaries. I say do what feels right. It'll all end up better in the end.

I am no scientist or gynocologist, just some guy with a couple ideas. Thanks for listening!





This is THE new religion. The one world religion in which all ideas are valid and everyone is a divine sovereign being composed of love and light. A religion which exists to create harmony between all things. A place where there are no boundaries to how one chooses to express themselves..where free will is protected, nourished, and encouraged. Spread the light, spread the love.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1178210 - 12/29/02 06:48 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Thank you for this wonderful and inspiring post.





Oh thanks. It's very nice to be appreciated. Does anyone care to elaborate on my theory? What do you think of it? I'm glad I was able to explain in a clear and straight forward manner for all to understand. I hope my idea doesn't fade into the depths of obscurity, AKA old threads...
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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178217 - 12/29/02 06:50 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I have the very same theroy.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1178230 - 12/29/02 06:55 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Damn that collective unconscious for exposing the illusion of individuality!  :mad: 


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178240 - 12/29/02 07:00 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

so here in our physical universe we have limited control over our enviroment but after death we would be lucid so we would in a sense be in control of everything but what about encountering others there? would they be manifestations inside the dead persons subconcious/spirit or would they be other spirits? would it recursively create life? hmm


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1178279 - 12/29/02 07:18 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

shroomism: if it were to be, as droz asked earlier. 'what about the christians that are ""sent"" to hell'... the fact that they are sent means there is a higher conciousness that has the power to do such an evil act. if everyones religion or belief is their reality in regards to the after life. then we all go to hell because christians say so, but we don't go to hell because we don't believe...

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: ribbit]
    #1178291 - 12/29/02 07:25 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

No one gets "sent" to hell. Hell is self-created.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178393 - 12/29/02 08:52 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Do we create our own hell? If we went through life following a faith which states that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and on our death-bed 'know' that we have sinned sometime in our life; do we resolve to the fact that we are going to exist from that point on in torment?
This said, it should be possible to determine where you are going at the point of death. If you die with a fear that you are going to hell because you sinned during life, then you only torment yourself for eternity. However, if at the point of death you are unafraid of the consequences of your sins then your mental state will be far more positive. As a result you would continue to exist freely and without torment.

Just a hypothesis :wink:


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Jackal]
    #1178905 - 12/30/02 04:44 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps a death bed repent would reverse the road to the imaginary hell. And in response to another question, I don't think the human brain and "soul" are networked, IE when you die you will not encounter another's subconscience manifestation of themself, but rather YOUR vision of that person, based on what you knew.

Remember, this whole world is created based on information you gathered in your lifetime, what is stored in your deep memory banks over the years. For example, you can encounter Joe from down the street, but what you get from him is only what you knew before, in physical life. The rest will probably filled in with what you want (or not).

Maybe our physical life exists for the sole purpose of gathering information for use in the lucid dream of the afterlife. I remember teachings that when babies die, they go into purgatory... black nothingness... probably because they have not seen enough to form a vivid dream world after passing. Or, because their minds have not developed enough to create a formidable one.

Count us psychonauts who have tripped and seen many things as the lucky few. Our afterlife is going to be greeeeat.

Does anybody think I should pursue my theory more?


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178910 - 12/30/02 04:48 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to trip when I die.  :cool: 


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Jackal]
    #1178912 - 12/30/02 04:50 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Do we create our own hell? If we went through life following a faith which states that there is a Heaven and a Hell, and on our death-bed 'know' that we have sinned sometime in our life; do we resolve to the fact that we are going to exist from that point on in torment?




No. Even if the Christian believer doesn't acknowledge the fact that they sinned, they will go to hell. They followed the faith, they had the rules set in their memory, and they failed to live up to them. Their sub conscience will recognize this and will adjust accordingly. Those who don't follow religious rules will just drift into a new world, and whats in it is what they know, or forgot.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178913 - 12/30/02 04:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Does anybody think I should pursue my theory more?

No, quite while you're ahead so you don't hurt yourself.

j/k

Welcome to SPS btw! :smile:

How come you have been registered so long and yet you only have 21 posts?  That is rather strange.

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: ]
    #1178934 - 12/30/02 05:04 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I usually just read the forums. I didn't have anything substantial to post until now.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178966 - 12/30/02 05:18 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Those familiar with lucid dreaming or intense salvia/DMT voyages will understand best.






I've read many times that DMT is released by the pineal gland, a short moment after death, while the brain is still active...


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1178999 - 12/30/02 05:36 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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No. Even if the Christian believer doesn't acknowledge the fact that they sinned, they will go to hell. They followed the faith, they had the rules set in their memory, and they failed to live up to them. Their sub conscience will recognize this and will adjust accordingly. Those who don't follow religious rules will just drift into a new world, and whats in it is what they know, or forgot.




So you think you know the truth? How do you know what the sub-consciousness really does and will do after death? What about people who started to believe your theory and wants to continue their hatred on in the after-life and interfere with your happiness? What then?  :shocked:

There is more then one possibility.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Droz]
    #1179050 - 12/30/02 06:01 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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So you think you know the truth? How do you know what the sub-consciousness really does and will do after death? What about people who started to believe your theory and wants to continue their hatred on in the after-life and interfere with your happiness? What then?  :shocked:

There is more then one possibility. 




I don't know the truth. This is just one mans idea, still fresh, and perfectly malleable. Open to suggestion. And like I stated earlier, I doubt that after-life subconscience is networked, meaning no outside force can interfere with my afterlife dream world. Although it is entirely possible someone who has caused me pain in the past can cause it in the afterlife, should I dream up a manifestation of that person. But since I firmly believe only good will happen when I die, I think there will be little trouble.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1179878 - 12/30/02 11:31 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Off topic for a little bit if I may.
Why do I have a three shroom rating? I've only made 25 posts. I've seen those with hundreds of posts, but only a 2 shroom rating. Not complaining, jus' wondering...


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1180268 - 12/30/02 03:20 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

reminded me of Waking Life

Ethan: I keep thinking about something you said.
Julie: Something I said?
Ethan: Yeah. About how you often feel like you're observing your life from the perspective of an old woman about to die. You remember that?
Julie: Yeah. I still feel that way sometimes; like I'm looking back on my life. Like my waking life is her memories.
Ethan: Mmm, exactly. I heard that Tim Leary said, as he was dying, that he was looking forward to the moment when his body was dead, but his brain was still alive - you know how they say that there's still 6-12 minutes of brain activity after everything else has shut down?
Julie: Mmm.
Ethan: And a second of dream conciousness, right? Well that's infinitely longer than a waking second. You know what I'm saying?
Julie: Oh yeah yeah yeah, definitely. For instance I wake up and it's 10:12 and then I go back to sleep and I have those long, intricate, beautiful dreams that seem to last for hours and then I wake up and it's...10:13
Ethan: Yeah, exactly. So then 6-12 minutes, right? Of brain activity. I mean...that could be your whole life. I mean you are that woman looking back over everything.
Julie: Okay so what if I am? Then what would you be in all that?
Ethan: Whatever I am right now. I mean, yeah maybe I only exist in your mind.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #1180354 - 12/30/02 04:28 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I gots to see that movie. There have been several replies in this forum that have boosted my attention to my ideology as well.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Meph]
    #1180380 - 12/30/02 05:01 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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I've read many times that DMT is released by the pineal gland, a short moment after death, while the brain is still active...




Perhaps you would be interested to know that when they first opened the sarcophogus in the queen's chamber of the Great Pyramid.. instead of finding a mummy they found a large pile of some crystalline white substance, which was later confirmed to be DMT. This would fit well in with the theory of the pyramids being used as some sort of initiation, or ascension temple.. as DMT increase is also noted during REM and astral projections as well as at death.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1180385 - 12/30/02 05:04 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1180395 - 12/30/02 05:10 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hell is self-created.

I agree 100% with this.

Death for someone who fears death would result in a long-ass bad trip-like afterlife. ........at least for a while anyways.


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What if all the world you think you know,
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Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1180437 - 12/30/02 05:39 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, It couldnt really be a new religion since everyones thoughts are differant in how your explaining them. i think that there could be something that created man and the earth or whatever. but i dont belive anything else but you should be happy and dont hurt anyone else in the way they wouldnt wanna be hurt. and if i lived in how i have dreams...... i would live in a world where space is nothing. yes a place to party. and the earth is on the other side of the galaxy but easy to get to. and everyone i know and everyone i dont know is there.


and i have thought of how people you see and how they act in your brain is how you will see them when you die...... cause thats really how you see them now. isnt it? cause most poeple you dont know there dark side. so you could know a mass murder. but he likes you so he wont kill you. but you dont know he kills so people. so to you hes a nice person.. .... but while hes dead hes in a place where there is people diing and him killing "hell" while your in a place where your snowboarding with him.... i dunno i like this idea. but yes to him it wouldnt be hell would it? if he liked killing and see poeple die that would be like his heaven. its kind of how ive thought for the past 2 years now... just not that extensive. good job youve helped me realise what ive known all along. and thanks.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Meph]
    #1180444 - 12/30/02 05:42 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I think your theory is very reasonable. I have always felt that we - in a way - create our own hell. I think that maybe hell is where we will be force to live out our worst fear or the sum of all our fears--for an eternity...

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1180612 - 12/30/02 07:03 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Great post, great thread  :cool:

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1180649 - 12/30/02 07:26 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Hell is self-created.

I agree 100% with this.


You may intellectually agree with it, but do you live it?

I suppose the families of the WTC victims created their personal hell when their lives were ripped apart. Had they all been perfect little Buddhas, they would have accepted the "now" without mourning or suffering.



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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Swami]
    #1180735 - 12/30/02 08:21 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

State of mind. You can change the world just by changing yourself and your outlook. Its a choice. You can choose to surround yourself with negative thoughts/feelings and create yourself a nice little hell, or you can take a positive attitude and be happy.
I do not follow a particular faith, my parents chose not to force religion on me as a child, but rather let me decide for myself as an adult. I continue to live religion-less and do not fear or believe in heaven or hell as described in religious texts. I enjoy this freedom, and without this fear I cannot torment myself.
While I'm experiencing humanity, I intend enjoying it as much as I can. I have been treated for depression before, and my life still is pretty shitty. But I understand now that the world is only as great as an individuals perception of it. I don't think I'll ever suffer from significant depression again, its a waste of time which could be spent being happy.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Swami]
    #1180757 - 12/30/02 08:44 PM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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I suppose the families of the WTC victims created their personal hell when their lives were ripped apart. Had they all been perfect little Buddhas, they would have accepted the "now" without mourning or suffering.




People die. That's a part of life. Victim or not, life goes on. Mourning or suffering for someone you love doesn't mean you've created your own personal hell, that is completely natural. I fail to see what you're getting at here. When I say hell is self-created, I am talking about living in your own mental hell, refusing to see the good in any situation, wallowing in perpetual misery, wanting everyone to feel sorry for you and not taking any responsibility for your thoughtsor actions. Living centered in fear and chaos. That's hell.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1181078 - 12/31/02 03:17 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I've altered my theory somewhat, thanks to a previous post which quoted the film "Waking Life".

The "spark" in our grey matter does not burn for eternity. But it does stay active several minutes after death. Like one long, winding dream can be had in a matter of seconds, several minutes could create the illusion of an eternity. But eventually those minutes will end, and then what? I've seem to hit a snag.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: brian_orion]
    #1182811 - 01/01/03 09:44 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Un-Snag yourself! You can do it!  :grin:

There was something my Speech teacher told us once in class. She said think about the things you know. Then think about the things you don't know. Then ponder the possibility of the things you don't know you don't know. It is actually easier to understand when drawing a picture. I hope i said it right.  :grin:


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1182823 - 01/01/03 09:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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People die. That's a part of life. Victim or not, life goes on. Mourning or suffering for someone you love doesn't mean you've created your own personal hell, that is completely natural. I fail to see what you're getting at here. When I say hell is self-created, I am talking about living in your own mental hell, refusing to see the good in any situation, wallowing in perpetual misery, wanting everyone to feel sorry for you and not taking any responsibility for your thoughtsor actions. Living centered in fear and chaos. That's hell. 


Brilliant :grin: 

Everyone has something they can bitch about, something that they can be the victim of, but its our responsibilty to rise above that and be happy with what we got. 


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1182835 - 01/01/03 10:06 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I am talking about living in your own mental hell, refusing to see the good in any situation,

I doubt the victims find something good in the bombings and live in mental hell see as their lives have been torn apart.

How much mourning is "natural" and how much is "self-created hell"; one day, one month, one year, five years ?


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Shroomism]
    #1182892 - 01/01/03 10:53 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

I also believe that hell is self created, as is also happiness, I have no scientific proof for this but my heart and personal experience agrees with it.
All of our circumstances in life arise from our state of mind, even the people who died in WTC.
Where ever or what ever you are living in life is for a reason even if our finite minds cannot comprehend.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Swami]
    #1183213 - 01/01/03 02:11 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Swami, you just aren't getting it.

Your own hell is created by ones' psyche after death. Kinda like someone who has a bad trip on psykadeliks. They stay behind a wall of fear and are to terrafied to confront their fears. They can escape their hell when they confront their fears, otherwise they will go mad.


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1184079 - 01/02/03 03:51 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Kinda like

"what dreams may come" ??


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1184111 - 01/02/03 04:05 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Swami, you just aren't getting it.
Guess not. We should dance with joy when a loved one suffers...

Your own hell is created by ones' psyche after death.
You know what happens after death based on what?


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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Swami]
    #1185338 - 01/02/03 12:47 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

You know what happens after death based on what?

Based a theroy that was being misintrupatated by you.

We should dance with joy when a loved one suffers...

I think it's better to celebrate the life of a loved one instead of morning it.



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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1189990 - 01/04/03 10:02 AM (21 years, 2 months ago)

Alright, if we are a part of God, then its definitely pausable that we could create our personal little abode in the After Life. However, Im not sure about the how, and if a murderer would suffer some personal Hell, but I am sure that even if it is your personal Paradise or Hell, it is not Eternal. I believe that eventually you'll be reincarnated.  :cool: 

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Re: Direct Route to Heaven! [Re: Murex]
    #1190501 - 01/04/03 02:28 PM (21 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's better to celebrate the life of a loved one instead of morning it.



Exactly! :smile: 


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