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    #1175730 - 12/28/02 05:51 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Has anyone read The Silmarillion, IMO a wonderful work of fantasy!


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Re: J.R.R. Tolkien [Re: Ripple]
    #1176674 - 12/29/02 07:45 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

No but yesterday National Geographic had an whole hour specieal on themaking and creating of Middle Earth By Tolkien. Following his life through world war 1 and 2 and where he got ideas for battles and fights from his childhood and life.

It was a fasxinating study of this man who wbrought to us oen of the finest adventures in Literature since Kipling, Welll;s and Heinlein.

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    #1176839 - 12/29/02 09:23 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Yes I did see that and it was very well done!


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    #1178470 - 12/30/02 12:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The Silmarillion is hard work. I have twice attempted to read it without completing it. I even took it on vacation to work on, but failed. I am currently re-reading Return of the King to remind myself of what to expect in the last film. After that I may make another attempt on The Silmarillion. I'd also like to add that I'm an original fan! I don't know why, but I get a bit pissed with people who only saw the films and think they are the knowledge on Tolkien!  :shocked:


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Re: J.R.R. Tolkien [Re: Jackal]
    #1179162 - 12/30/02 08:47 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Same here, a fan of the books since the 70's......the Silmarillion is difficult but worth it! I have read it many times and the level of detail still holds my attention.


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    #1180491 - 12/30/02 08:07 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I have attempted it once, I kind of put it down during some of the elvish wars and never picked it back up. It is pretty tough reading IMO, alot of names/places/events. But its scale is remarkable and the ammount of rich details gives a whole new light on the LOTR trilogy. I have heard it gets easier after the beginning so I am going to pick it up again soon. Kudos Ripple, I am glad you were able to finish it and enjoyed it. On the note of the movies, I do enjoy seeing Middle Earth put on the big screen, but this new crowd of Hobbit-lovers is quite annoying. I have many friends who seem to get so superficially worked up over the movies, stating they can't wait to read the books. I have yet to see one crack a page. The movies are nice, but in no way compare to the beautiful style and sheer awe the trilogy possesses. Please viewers, read the novels if you haven't already, you are missing so much. But if you have seen "The Hot Chick" along with LOTR, don't read the books because you complete crap and don't deserve middle earth  :tongue:


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    #1181269 - 12/31/02 07:59 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm just glad that I haven't heard the nonsense from people who saw 'Two Towers' complaining that they didn't like the way it ended like after the first movie. I finally gave up telling them that it hadn't ended yet dumbass ...

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    #1181317 - 12/31/02 08:20 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Altec ...I totally agree the books are a masterpiece of literary art and Tolkien most definitely partook of the sacred mushroom to be able to write such a story. he even wrote a language for the elves!

Buzz....after a while I just agreed with people that the end of the fellowship sucked lol.


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    #1181631 - 12/31/02 11:03 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I've read about 1/2 twice, but have never gotten to finish it. I've always been a tolkien buff, and the Silmarillion is one of my favorites by far, but it takes careful reading, and consideration. After I reread the LOTR, im going to finish it up.


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Re: J.R.R. Tolkien [Re: Remy]
    #1182189 - 12/31/02 08:46 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yes Remi you need to be in the proper state of mind to be able to finish the book. Bur after you get through it the first time I garantee you will read it again.


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    #1182765 - 01/01/03 11:11 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm in the middle of reading it now. Very good so far. Although I'm not that far in about 60 pages. I'm at the part of the chaining and bounding of Melkor. I don't know what's going to happen next, but I bet Melkor is going to escape somehow and get very pissed off about this. I like the idea of the false angelic sauron when it suits him to appear like this.

All in all great stuff so far.


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    #1182772 - 01/01/03 11:17 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

yea you can bet that Melkor is not done yet. One thing about this book is that not all endings are happy ones!

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    #1183931 - 01/02/03 04:19 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I'm actually in the middle of re-reading it again for the 4th or 5th time.  :smile:Each time I read it, I get a better understanding of it. I've been a huge Tolkien fan for years. I loved LOTR, but I like The Silmarillion better.
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    #1184816 - 01/02/03 10:52 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Well I agree with you 100% the Silmarillion is a much better book than any of the other works of Tolkien and I am also a huge fan of his writings. I recently completed the book for about the fifth time over the last 20 or so years. It appears that we are in the minority though, I guess most people find the complexity and intensity a turn off where as I find it extremely stimulating and thought provoking.


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    #1186215 - 01/03/03 02:46 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

I, like most people read LOTR first and there were alot of things I didn't understand. I love The Silmarillion because it gives the entire history of Middle Earth, and everything in it. :smile: It's great because all the people and things I thought were badass in LOTR, don't even compare to the creatures in the Silmarillion. Sauron is awesome, but no where near as bad as Melkor (Morgoth). Sauron was his lacky! :blush: Shelob the great spider is the off spring of Ungoliant, who was even greater. There's all kinds of great stuff like that, that's only in the Silmarillian. Turin, the fall of Gondolin, the history of the elves, etc., etc.  :grin:
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    #1187862 - 01/03/03 02:48 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

It goes on and on.....The Fall of Fingolfin, Beren and Luthien, Earendil, Numenor, and the sons of Feanor.

One of my favorites: Tulkas!

Greatest in strength and deeds of prowess is Tulkas Who is surnamed Astaldo the Valient.

He delights in wrestling and in contests of strength; and he rides no steed, for he can outrun all things tht go on feet, and he is tireless. His weapons are his hands. he has little heed for either the past or the future, and is of no avail as a counsellor, but is a hardy friend.


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    #1208916 - 01/11/03 10:07 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

The silmarillion is a great book!  I just re-read it for about the 5th time( I tend to read alot, but only a few books) It is a somewhat hard read though, not at all like The Trilogy, or the Hobbit.  Afterall it is a history book :wink:
I like how it mirrors many concepts of creation and how we got here.
I especially liked The music of the Ainur(sp)..


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    #1220992 - 01/15/03 11:58 AM (14 years, 10 months ago)

.... should be lsited as a god!!!!! that is all... *walks off stage*


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    #1223291 - 01/16/03 09:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Me too the Music and the story of the Valar is a great piece of writing!


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    #1223716 - 01/16/03 01:16 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

wahey, tolkien reference!
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