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Our Government is corrupt
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Now i'm going to make a statement to which I never want you to forget.
The Government hates us. The always have. They want total control over us. They want our population decrease tremedously. And its going to happen one day. Just google "Project Blue Beam". A guy gave his life to sneak out FYEO information that only the top general could read.
Yes, 9/11 was planned. It was planned by a rich bunch who want us to take a chip so they will know everything about us all the time. Where we are, what we are doing, and why we are doing it. They will be able to tell us want to do.
Remember Nazi Germany? The Third Reich? Thats how they want us. They will throw the non believers of their religion into concentration camps or re-education camps. They want one world government, one world currency, and one world religion. And anyone who opposes shall be tortured or put to death.
They especially hate all Christians. Why do you think the US is moving more and more away from the constitution and the Ten Commandments.
Why the hell do you think they are making millions of caskets and what not for us. Go to google and looks up caskets. You will see in numerous big cities in the countryside are these millions of caskets that they call "Bathtubs".. Who the fuck would need that many bathtubs.
If Hitler could almost take over the world.. Imagine what our Government could do with the technology today..
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If Hitler could almost take over the world.. Imagine what our Government could do with the technology today..
... Get our asses kicked by sand people in the middle east
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joshisstoned said: If Hitler could almost take over the world.. Imagine what our Government could do with the technology today..
... Get our asses kicked by sand people in the middle east
Lmao. Dude, we aren't even fighting a war. There is no war. Our Government made it up so they could get one step closer to giving us that chip!
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Even if we took over the whole world... we couldnt hold it. We cant hold iraq or afghanistan. The world is safe from us because we get demoralized over long wars easily.
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my friends have come back from iraq and they're about to go to afghanistan as the new 30000 troop increase. its war alright. just not a conventional one
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joshisstoned said: my friends have come back from iraq and they're about to go to afghanistan as the new 30000 troop increase. its war alright. just not a conventional one
True..
And no.. Go read up on these conspiracies.. it makes so much sense once you think about it. They used the media to make us think that shit is actually going on over.. I mean stuff is going on but they are using al-qauda to distract us.
Just as they use movies, and music to keep us from seeing whats really going on in our government.
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If you read the Project Bluebeam stuff it doesn't say the U.s. is going to take over the world. They are claiming there will be a fake alien invasion that causes everyone to join together into a world government to defend against the aliens. Nothing about the U.S. taking the world over on there own.
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HippiexChild said: Just as they use movies, and music to keep us from seeing whats really going on in our government.
go further into this please
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this is not true. they want to take care of us. the chip will be for safety. you will never have to worry about loosing or having your credit cards, social security card, or personal information stolen. we could then go to a paperless society, where money could turn into something similar to a video game point system.
think about how this will relive parents worries. if your child is chipped, they could find them anywhere, if lost or stolen.
you see its all about safety, they care....
"those who sacrifice freedom for safety, deserve neither." thomas jefferson
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: blackstatis]
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That isn't what Jefferson said. And it wasn't him who said it, it was Frankln:
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Mycjunky]
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Mycjunky said: If you read the Project Bluebeam stuff it doesn't say the U.s. is going to take over the world. They are claiming there will be a fake alien invasion that causes everyone to join together into a world government to defend against the aliens. Nothing about the U.S. taking the world over on there own.
Are you completely dull? You must have not read the whole part about them faking the rapture.. and blah blah blah.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: blackstatis]
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blackstatis said: this is not true. they want to take care of us. the chip will be for safety. you will never have to worry about loosing or having your credit cards, social security card, or personal information stolen. we could then go to a paperless society, where money could turn into something similar to a video game point system.
think about how this will relive parents worries. if your child is chipped, they could find them anywhere, if lost or stolen.
you see its all about safety, they care....
"those who sacrifice freedom for safety, deserve neither." thomas jefferson
Your completely out of your mind. Your thinking how they want you to think. Your eating up all the bullcrap they've been feeding us. Seriously.. I've never heard anyone say that in my life.
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"Our" government is corrupt...who isn't corrupt?
Are you not corrupt?
"total control over us"...human nature. If you were in their shoes, would you not want control over the population?
"want our population decrease tremedously"...for the best of our species.
Why do Americans cry so much over reality?
No one is forcing you to live this life.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: LayYouIn]
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LayYouIn said: "Our" government is corrupt...who isn't corrupt?
Are you not corrupt?
"total control over us"...human nature. If you were in their shoes, would you not want control over the population?
"want our population decrease tremedously"...for the best of our species.
Why do Americans cry so much over reality?
No one is forcing you to live this life.
Your definately mad. They want us to die. Me and you will prolly be on that list. As long as your happy with that.
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I read the stuff about them faking the rapture. It never said the U.S. was going to fake the rapture. If any of this would happen the people with motivation to do it would be the bankers to set up a world central bank. Every time someone argues with you you just say there an idiot or whatever and you don't even bring up any actual facts or anything to prove your point. You sound like your fucking crazy. I normally don't rule out possible conspiracy theories but it's people like you that make it sound so far fetched. Who is "they" exactly that want to do these things, and how would "they" just magically benefit from it. If your going to have a conspiracy theory atleast have a realistic motivation or you just sound crazy.
I'm not even arguing with your theory I just think it doesn't make sense for the U.S. to take over the world because they physically couldn't do it. However powerful bankers could conspire for a world government and actually have something to gain from it.
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One world government and currency... Not while Russia and China still exist.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Mycjunky]
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Mycjunky said: Who is "they" exactly that want to do these things, and how would "they" just magically benefit from it. If your going to have a conspiracy theory atleast have a realistic motivation or you just sound crazy.
Ding ding ding.
I dont know why teh government would want to kill off its population - we generate tax revenues for them.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: memes]
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each child born is another potential "home owner" and credit card holder and tax payer for sure. they should want more of us
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: flangenips]
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i'm speechless...for once.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
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Ya'll don't get it. They don't want our money. They want us to accept this chip to knock off wars and shit with other countries. With everyone around the world paying a one world government.. it would be too much money to count. They could get anyone who they wanted if they don't accept the new system.. think about it.
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No, we don't get it. Tell us more.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
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I want more info!!
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
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Aight..
First off here are some links to some youtube videos.
Also, The all seeing eye on our currency means they will be able to see where everyone is all the time.. what everyone is doing.. its symbol of power.. what else could it mean?
Oh and this video. Note: You have to fold these into planes to see them.. Ironic? No. I doubt thats just luck.
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Lol. When I want info on something, i refuse to get it from a youtube video.
Give me real info!
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: flangenips]
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flangenips said: One world government and currency... Not while Russia and China still exist.
Russia and China are actually 2 main nations pushing for this
its not the US government thats going to take over the world
the rest of the world is banding together and considers the US the last real threat that needs to be eliminated to usher in their dictatorship
I heard someone say that Obama has already signed over the sovereignty of the US allowing foreign troops to come in as well as other things I Forget at the moment
apparently this is something very recent
the American people will stand up against this and world military action(including US troops) will be unleashed on them
you will either surrender or die
thats my opinion about the future
some aspects could be wrong or slightly different
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: memes]
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Give me real info!
there are a lot of information/evidence based youtube videos
people often attack the internet when faced with evidence proving apposing views correct(whether youtube, or wikipedia, or the internet itself) in an attempt to smear the person or perspective with distraction based avoidance instead of debating the actual information
that said I didn't watch that particular video and am not commenting on that specifically
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There is certainly some crazy in this thread.
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people often attack the internet when faced with evidence proving apposing views correct(whether youtube, or wikipedia, or the internet itself) in an attempt to smear the person or perspective with distraction based avoidance instead of debating the actual information
People often attack those submitting youtube videos as supporting evidence for their arguments because a very limited number of learned intellectuals whose views are worth hearing would bother conveying their viewpoints through such a medium.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said: There is certainly some crazy in this thread.
crazy is relative. Unfortunatly it never left the poliitcal forums.
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there are a lot of information/evidence based youtube videos
evidence is rare in a youtube video, especially most of them you post. there is a lot of information on youtube, but not accurate information said by known professionals. there may be some, but it's unlikely that a professional would hold his/her views on a website where anyone can post his views unprofessionally, he/she would rather make a website or a documentary. thus,we don't listen to youtube videos.
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people often attack the internet when faced with evidence proving apposing views correct(whether youtube, or wikipedia, or the internet itself) in an attempt to smear the person or perspective with distraction based avoidance instead of debating the actual information
i think i caught you slipping that whistle a couple times not sure where. also, who doesn't think wikipedia is accurate? the internet can lie, because people lie. if information is posted by an unrecognizable bias then why should i believe it? if there is a link for research that was funded by the government or a science facility with information accepted by the government(depending on what subject) then we take it as dependable information.
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there are a lot of information/evidence based youtube videos
evidence is rare in a youtube video, especially most of them you post. there is a lot of information on youtube, but not accurate information said by known professionals. there may be some, but it's unlikely that a professional would hold his/her views on a website where anyone can post his views unprofessionally, he/she would rather make a website or a documentary. thus,we don't listen to youtube videos.
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people often attack the internet when faced with evidence proving apposing views correct(whether youtube, or wikipedia, or the internet itself) in an attempt to smear the person or perspective with distraction based avoidance instead of debating the actual information
i think i caught you slipping that whistle a couple times not sure where. also, who doesn't think wikipedia is accurate? the internet can lie, because people lie. if information is posted by an unrecognizable bias then why should i believe it? if there is a link for research that was funded by the government or a science facility with information accepted by the government(depending on what subject) then we take it as dependable information.
Seems to me you and everyone else who doesn't agree, is trying very hard not to understand whats going on. Ya'll are living in a thing I call a safety blanket. If you put 2 and 2 together, you will actually find that all this shit is right in front of our eyes, we just aren't paying attention like we should. Go to msn, go to yahoo, go anywhere that talks about politics. And read between the lines. You'll see what I mean.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: memes]
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meams said: Lol. When I want info on something, i refuse to get it from a youtube video.
Give me real info!
Dude, if you watch the damn video you'll get info. lol
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flangenips said: One world government and currency... Not while Russia and China still exist.
Russia and China are actually 2 main nations pushing for this
its not the US government thats going to take over the world
the rest of the world is banding together and considers the US the last real threat that needs to be eliminated to usher in their dictatorship
I heard someone say that Obama has already signed over the sovereignty of the US allowing foreign troops to come in as well as other things I Forget at the moment
apparently this is something very recent
the American people will stand up against this and world military action(including US troops) will be unleashed on them
you will either surrender or die
thats my opinion about the future
some aspects could be wrong or slightly different
No he didn't sign the bill. It was called climategate. And they met to talk about in December the 18th. But it really didn't go well at all. Go read up about it. It took place in copenhagen.
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i don't seem to understand. i do read between the lines, but i don't listen to those who have told me what they have read between the lines unless i know for sure that they have proved it. conspiracy are conspiracy and i don't believe whatever anyone tells me,that's what a independent smart person does. it's not like i believe the government and what he says he does, but when it comes to sciences i rather believe professionals before the random guy(unless he has better proof of course, but i would have to evaluate both sides completely and research). i know how corrupt the government is and if anything i don't have a safety blanket.
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Obama signed an executive order granting Interpol similar protections as US police. It wasn't a bill. There was no such bill. Climategate was about falsifying scientific data to gin up global warming fear and fuck the US. Do you have any idea at all what you are talking about or do you always just fling poo?
So far nothing you have posted rises above the rim of a toilet bowl although if it keeps coming it may well soil the floor.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: memes]
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people often attack the internet when faced with evidence proving apposing views correct(whether youtube, or wikipedia, or the internet itself) in an attempt to smear the person or perspective with distraction based avoidance instead of debating the actual information
People often attack those submitting youtube videos as supporting evidence for their arguments because a very limited number of learned intellectuals whose views are worth hearing would bother conveying their viewpoints through such a medium.
some of those intellectuals you speak of are the stars of those videos
well put together videos go a long way in proving a point without having to gather the information from many different sources only to be ignored anyways
claiming that very few youtube videos contain actual evidence and information is a broad brush bullshit statement
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heres just one example of an information/evidence based video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlWWEViURo
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do you have any thoughts of your own? you could record them, post them on youtube, then post it here if you would like. just a thought
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 this is a film from an outside source posted in youtube, also no one said that all youtube videos are complete bull. but that most of them are unreliable.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
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Innvertigo said: do you have any thoughts of your own? you could record them, post them on youtube, then post it here if you would like. just a thought
since this is an oft used insult towards me I will ask you the same thing
do you not have any thoughts of your own?
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yes, my last comment was original. So was this one.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
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it was not original
the question is whether or not it was influenced by another poster or a product of your own thought processes
I doubt you'd be honest if it was based on influence
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elementswrath said: i don't seem to understand. i do read between the lines, but i don't listen to those who have told me what they have read between the lines unless i know for sure that they have proved it. conspiracy are conspiracy and i don't believe whatever anyone tells me,that's what a independent smart person does. it's not like i believe the government and what he says he does, but when it comes to sciences i rather believe professionals before the random guy(unless he has better proof of course, but i would have to evaluate both sides completely and research). i know how corrupt the government is and if anything i don't have a safety blanket.
Right. Your the seeing is believing person. Is wind there just because you can't see it? I bet you say its not. Your close minded If you go by science. Thats all i'm saying.
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zappaisgod said: Obama signed an executive order granting Interpol similar protections as US police. It wasn't a bill. There was no such bill. Climategate was about falsifying scientific data to gin up global warming fear and fuck the US. Do you have any idea at all what you are talking about or do you always just fling poo?
So far nothing you have posted rises above the rim of a toilet bowl although if it keeps coming it may well soil the floor.
Where is your evidence to support your statement? And if you don't give any that's actually reliable. You would have made yourself look stupid for nothing.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said: Which statement woud you like evidence for?
Your dumb. Everything. I want you to support your evidence on everything your trying to disagree with me on. Go ahead now.. No youtube videos, No wikipedia. As i have been told on these forums, all of that is unreliable.
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zappaisgod said: Which statement woud you like evidence for?
Your dumb. Everything. I want you to support your evidence on everything your trying to disagree with me on. Go ahead now.. No youtube videos, No wikipedia. As i have been told on these forums, all of that is unreliable. 
who said wikipedia was unreliable?
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Try using Wiki as a source in College Term papers..they won't accept it.
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At ThreatsWatch.org, Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton have dug up the bizarre and unsettling issuance of an executive order recently signed by President Barack Obama. Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425, signed December 16 and released a day later, grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) rights on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Schippert and Middleton note that Obama’s order removes protections placed upon INTERPOL by President Reagan in 1983. Obama’s order gives the group the authority to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — which means this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against governmental abuse. “Property and assets,” including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations and records are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-surrenders-u-s-sovereignty-his-interpol-executive-order/
That was the only thing Obama signed that anybody has been whinging about sovereignty that I know of. Given the nebulosity of his post I had to guess. It has not one thing to do with "climategate" which is this:
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The controversy arose after various allegations were made including that climate scientists colluded[7] to withhold scientific information,[8] interfered with the peer-review process to prevent dissenting scientific papers from being published,[9] deleted e-mails and raw data to prevent data being revealed under the Freedom of Information Act,[10] and manipulated data to make the case for global warming appear stronger than skeptics claim it is.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incident
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zappaisgod said: Which statement woud you like evidence for?
Your dumb. Everything. I want you to support your evidence on everything your trying to disagree with me on. Go ahead now.. No youtube videos, No wikipedia. As i have been told on these forums, all of that is unreliable. 
And those caskets they call bathtubs? They really are bathtubs. They're for washing hippies that finally come in from the wilderness of stupidity they have wandered in for 40 years
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elementswrath said: i don't seem to understand. i do read between the lines, but i don't listen to those who have told me what they have read between the lines unless i know for sure that they have proved it. conspiracy are conspiracy and i don't believe whatever anyone tells me,that's what a independent smart person does. it's not like i believe the government and what he says he does, but when it comes to sciences i rather believe professionals before the random guy(unless he has better proof of course, but i would have to evaluate both sides completely and research). i know how corrupt the government is and if anything i don't have a safety blanket.
Right. Your the seeing is believing person. Is wind there just because you can't see it? I bet you say its not. Your close minded If you go by science. Thats all i'm saying.
that's ridiculous analogy, wind can be felt and heard. it's physical because it can blow you to fucking japan if it wanted too, in some placed they have wind mills for electricity. but i suppose you would rather believe the latter from some anonymous idiot who doesn't know the first thing about wind. i rather be right then open minded. even your bible is constructed by a product of science. this very computer you type from is for "closed minded" people, so you best log off. oh, open minded one.
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bet you say its not.
spoken like a idiot, if i am a science kinda guy then i would believe wind exists.
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Your close minded If you go by science. Thats all i'm saying.
 so do i have to be a religion/conspiracy nut like you to be "open minded" you don't really know what open minded is do you?
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The most salient feature of a totally open mind is empty space. Some people choose to fill theirs with shit. Others are more discerning about what they put in it.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
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My newest rating. From HippiexChild:
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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!
I don't know what I'm going to do. Truly, I am crying inside. What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that. Will someone give me a hug?
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elementswrath said: you don't really know what open minded is do you?
Well, if one were to judge based upon the merits of the original post of this thread, "open-minded" would be characterized by paranoia and a certain degree of some elements of schizophrenia.
Any explanation can be given for any phenomenon as long as there is no eventuality in which any sort of evidence will be produced or the theory will have any degree of predictive value. If a theory has no predictive value and doesn't have any actual means of evidencing anything, then it is completely worthless.
OP, with your insight into the matter, any predictions? Any evidence?
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
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My newest rating. From HippiexChild:
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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!
I don't know what I'm going to do. Truly, I am crying inside. What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that. Will someone give me a hug?
you will make it,you're going to have to go through years of psychiatry for this trauma
lol, i just gave him a new rating. he is probably going to counter it in a child like manner like he did yours.
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elementswrath said: you don't really know what open minded is do you?
Well, if one were to judge based upon the merits of the original post of this thread, "open-minded" would be characterized by paranoia and a certain degree of some elements of schizophrenia.
Any explanation can be given for any phenomenon as long as there is no eventuality in which any sort of evidence will be produced or the theory will have any degree of predictive value. If a theory has no predictive value and doesn't have any actual means of evidencing anything, then it is completely worthless.
OP, with your insight into the matter, any predictions? Any evidence?
couldn't have said it better myself
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My newest rating. From HippiexChild:
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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!
I don't know what I'm going to do. Truly, I am crying inside. What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that. Will someone give me a hug?
you will make it,you're going to have to go through years of psychiatry for this trauma
lol, i just gave him a new rating. he is probably going to counter it in a child like manner like he did yours.
Wow, do you really have that much a life to roam the forums and find my thread just to tell everyone I gave you a bad rating? Locked this forum moderator. Thanks. And possibly ban this guy for trolling.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Innvertigo]
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Right you are buddy. I'll recieve a 5 star rating please for being brighter than everyone else on these forums!
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: zappaisgod]
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At ThreatsWatch.org, Steve Schippert and Clyde Middleton have dug up the bizarre and unsettling issuance of an executive order recently signed by President Barack Obama. Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 12425, signed December 16 and released a day later, grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) rights on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
Schippert and Middleton note that Obama’s order removes protections placed upon INTERPOL by President Reagan in 1983. Obama’s order gives the group the authority to avoid Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests — which means this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against governmental abuse. “Property and assets,” including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations and records are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-surrenders-u-s-sovereignty-his-interpol-executive-order/
That was the only thing Obama signed that anybody has been whinging about sovereignty that I know of. Given the nebulosity of his post I had to guess. It has not one thing to do with "climategate" which is this:
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The controversy arose after various allegations were made including that climate scientists colluded[7] to withhold scientific information,[8] interfered with the peer-review process to prevent dissenting scientific papers from being published,[9] deleted e-mails and raw data to prevent data being revealed under the Freedom of Information Act,[10] and manipulated data to make the case for global warming appear stronger than skeptics claim it is.[10]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incident
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zappaisgod said: Which statement woud you like evidence for?
Your dumb. Everything. I want you to support your evidence on everything your trying to disagree with me on. Go ahead now.. No youtube videos, No wikipedia. As i have been told on these forums, all of that is unreliable. 
And those caskets they call bathtubs? They really are bathtubs. They're for washing hippies that finally come in from the wilderness of stupidity they have wandered in for 40 years
Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!
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You managed to get a 0 RATING! Lets give the asshole a hand shall we?!
I don't know what I'm going to do. Truly, I am crying inside. What a meanie, to go out of his way to hurt someone like that. Will someone give me a hug?
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elementswrath said: you don't really know what open minded is do you?
Well, if one were to judge based upon the merits of the original post of this thread, "open-minded" would be characterized by paranoia and a certain degree of some elements of schizophrenia.
Any explanation can be given for any phenomenon as long as there is no eventuality in which any sort of evidence will be produced or the theory will have any degree of predictive value. If a theory has no predictive value and doesn't have any actual means of evidencing anything, then it is completely worthless.
OP, with your insight into the matter, any predictions? Any evidence?
Glad that you asked. I will give you some information based on logic based on assumption. Not using youtube, or wikipedia since everyone wants to cry about it.
The New World Order A New World Order has been a long time in the making, its pieces fitting into place from divergent realms and with many different players. Believing what they are doing is for the benefit of mankind, many of the players do not necessarily understand their role in developing a system that will ultimately enslave a large part of the population and condemn them to eternal suffering.
Acting largely behind the scenes and outside of public view is a small group of satanic inspired elites secretly manipulating world events to advance the nefarious agenda the antichrist will use for his own wicked purposes.
To keep the masses blissfully unaware of this evil agenda, they are made happy with a steady flow of entertainment and sophisticated propaganda while being chemically dumbed down with drugs and GMO foods. These 21st Century serfs have been basically “conditioned” to comply and “taught” to embrace their slavery.
While the message of the elite is that, “Resistence is futile,” there is thankfully a remnant of Christian patriots and freedom fighters exposing the evil antichrist agenda and giving hope to those few people that choose to be awake.
If you are to survive the coming holocaust, it’s important you better understand the agenda of the enemy and have some resources to resist the lies of the antichrist. This website is dedicated to exposing this destructive New World Order agenda and empowering you with knowledge to overcome this monumental deception.
The New World Order “New World Order,” is a term used to describe the uniting of the world’s superpowers to secure and maintain “global peace.” World leaders are excited at the prospects for peace and there has been much talk about entering a “new era” and the establishment of a “New World Order.”
It is not some prophetically speculative or futuristic fairy tale, but a real world reality. Gears and levers of history have been moved and adjusted, and a large-scale game of Monopoly has been played, with real currency and real assets shifting hands - a game with very real winners and losers.
The Bible reveals the true agenda of the New World Order. One part of the agenda is economic control of the world. The Bible states that one day the antichrist will be able to track and control all financial transactions and that NO MAN will be able to buy or sell anything unless he has the mark of the beast. [Note] [They have already made a chip and it is in testing right now with people who have already accepted this chip and will have no choice in anything when the NWO takes over]
Alas, the New World Order.
Then, as now, most American remain asleep to this creeping collectivist takeover of the world and the setting up of world government. How many 9/11’s will it take before people understand how the manipulation of our fear is how criminal fascists take away our freedom? How many banker bailouts will it take before people understand the international financial elites are stealing our pension funds and enslaving us to a lifetime of debt?
When will the citizens arise and declare, “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”?
“It is well the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” - Henry Ford
With the son of the man who introduced the New World Order to America in place, George W. Bush’s mandate was to further his father’s agenda of extending government control over American citizens and empowering the tentacles of a One World Government into foreign lands.
Recognizing that no Collectivist movement can succeed unless it has control over the movement of it’s citizens and insider intelligence of those who oppose them, Globalists along with President G.W. Bush, needed a Pearl Harbor “crisis” to move their agenda forward.
That crisis came compliments of a group of Muslims, perhaps even orchestrated by the CIA and/or FBI on Sept. 11, 2001.
Globalists everywhere celebrated the attack on America as their goals are now being accomplished before their very eyes. Their desire to instill fear into the hearts of Americans has been accomplished as Americans became willing to exchange their freedom for a false feeling of security. Their goal to destroy our free constitutional Republic is accomplished as we allow the government to further intrude into our private lives in the name of “national security”.
Following the events of that day, Americans have experienced a wholesale loss of personal freedom in payment for a manufactured security “crisis”. The Bush administration introduced its “War on Terror”, and within weeks, Americans saw their constitutional guarantees of freedom stripped away by the “Patriot Act” with its plethora of legislative changes which significantly increased the surveillance and investigative powers of law enforcement agencies in the United States. In what could be described as a coup d’etat, globalists in our government also created a new fascist government initiative dubbed, “Homeland Security” and renewed their criminal government intrusion into the private lives of Americans once used by Richard Nixon in his war on anti-war protestors, environmentalists, and civil rights activists.
Council of Foreign Relations Its intentions
The late Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton’s mentor), Professor of History at Georgetown University, member of the CFR, stated in his book, "Tragedy & Hope":
"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."
Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the Cfr for 16 years, warned the American people of the organization’s intentions:
"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereingty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."
And Dan Smoot, a former member of the FBI Headquarters staff in Washington, D.C., summarized the organization’s purpose as follows:
"The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."
In other words, the CFR’s activities are treasonous to the U.S. Constitution. Their goal is to put an end to the United States of America, and to make the country a part of their global government scheme.
The members of the CFR dominate almost every aspect of American life, yet most Americans have never even heard of the Council on Foreign Relations. One reason for this is probably because there are over 170 journalists, correspondents, and communications executives who are members of the CFR, and who do not write about the organization. Also, it is an express condition of membership that no one is to disclose what goes on at CFR meetings.
Congressmen John R. Rarick had warned:
"The CFR, dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media, should be familiar to every American concerned with good government, and with preserving and defending the U.S. Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media, usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain conspicuously silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities.
"The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the U.S. from a sovereign Constitution Republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship."
The CFR now has its main headquarters at the corner of park Avenue and 68th Street in New York City, in a building given to the organization by the Rockefeller family in 1929. Its main goal is still to create a one-world government by destroying the freedom and independence of all nations, especially the United States. And David Rockefeller continues to be its Chairman of the Board.
Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[
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i am not sure what to think at this point in my life, but i do believe our government most likely has hidden motives and is power hungry and the potential for them to be really corrupt is there, but i have no proof, i dont believe in all of our laws but i enjoy the safety i have here.
I believe that the only true corruption with proof is in our society itself. i see it everyday, and it is a matter of opinion, but we have the strength and love to become the change we want to see in the world.
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The rabbit hole is deep, a good place to start study would be general history and religion. Factions and societies stretch back through time and have evolved and shape life as we know it today.
hmm... what i'm trying to say is that we as men are in a very funny place. Ponder your place in the cosmos, many have and many wish to be god and dictate human fate above the masses.
Our everyday life easily distracts us from the fact that we in and of the cosmos are absolutely divine!
when you think of humans as you would think of ants, you may elevate yourself to a higher more godly status and as your foot may dictate the timely fate of an anthill your manifest power may dictate the fate of man.
The ancient Pharisees thought of themselves as gods among men, creating beacons for the ages, though enslaving many. Truly man has the ability to dictate human fate as god himself!
What some men seek is control man's time and destiny, which is a godly, yet attainable endeavor.
Men would also seek to control you, for you are men too and have the same ability to compete in influencing our cosmic fate as men on this planet if you are to realize.
are you catching my drift?
Where will your bloodline be in 200 years? will it die out, or still face the magnificence of the creator?
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HippiexChild said: Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[
No, I don't watch videos and prefer to read thoughts of other posters themselves, although I did read what you posted (although you'll need to provide a link to the source of that article).
Genetically modified foods? What's wrong with genetically modified foods? The only actual substance found regarding any of these claims is the identification of the Council on Foreign Relations, but its all only speculation on its intentions. Speculation tinged with fear.....
Its one thing to recognize that there are all sorts of power on this planet and that these powers have all kinds of influences on the course of the progress of human civilization.... its another thing to be afraid of the fact that there could possibly be things that have more power than one person and to subsequently entertain paranoid delusions regarding the "true" intent of these powers as to satisfy a psychological need to feel more in control of one's own life.
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Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!
So you think climategate is something other than that? Why don't you show us all what it really is, then? Thanks in advance for continuing to beclown yourself.
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Glad that you asked. I will give you some information based on logic based on assumption. Not using youtube, or wikipedia since everyone wants to cry about it.
The New World Order A New World Order has been a long time in the making, its pieces fitting into place from divergent realms and with many different players. Believing what they are doing is for the benefit of mankind, many of the players do not necessarily understand their role in developing a system that will ultimately enslave a large part of the population and condemn them to eternal suffering. ...........................................
Now don't you wish I would have used video's and wiki? :[
You're new here. Perhaps you didn't know you were supposed to supply lnks to your Cut and Paste jobs. I'll do it for you: http://newworldorderinfo.com/
A Prison Planet/ Alex Jones affiliate.. Which, by the way, has no problem citing wikipedia itself: http://www.newworldorderinfo.com/trilateral-commission/47/trilateral-commission-wikipedia/
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The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, founded in 1973 at the initiative of David Rockefeller, who pushed the idea of including Japan at the Bilderberg meetings he was attending but was rebuffed. Along with Zbigniew Brzezinski and a few others, including from the Brookings Institution, Council on Foreign Relations and the Ford Foundation, he convened initial meetings from which grew the Trilateral organisation. Its first executive committee meeting was held in Tokyo in October 1973. It consists of approximatively 300-350 private citizens from Europe, Pacific Asia (Asia & Oceania), and North America, and exists to promote closer political and economic cooperation between these areas.
Read more at Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You seem to have quite a few religious beliefs fluttering about in that confused head of yours.
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fantastiColor said: i am not sure what to think at this point in my life, but i do believe our government most likely has hidden motives and is power hungry and the potential for them to be really corrupt is there, but i have no proof, i dont believe in all of our laws but i enjoy the safety i have here.
I believe that the only true corruption with proof is in our society itself. i see it everyday, and it is a matter of opinion, but we have the strength and love to become the change we want to see in the world.
totally. but i don't believe the one world currency (if it is going to happen) is going to happen anytime soon. for one, i don't think every one agrees to the idea and either there will be a third world war or it stays as it is.
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Wikipedia is UNRELIABLE! Anyone can change the information on it! Anyone can put anything they want to in it! And if the government wants it to say something, then by God it will and nothing can change that! If someone wants to put something in it thats totally false and opionated, they can!
Which is exactly why I linked you directly to the text of the executive order which is in question.
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Re: Our Government is corrupt [Re: Redstorm]
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These guys are morons. And this debate has turned into people giving each other bad ratings. Its ridiculous.
Just lock this thread please. Thanks.
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Reason: At the request of the thread's originator.
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