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OfflineThePharmahuasquero
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First attempt
    #11744482 - 12/30/09 06:34 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Hey everyone, I have questions about my first attempt here.

I'm gonna go with the PF tek first, see how things go and get all the things I need to know down.
With this, I see some people crumble down their cakes and case them, is this something someone new should be attempting?


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744526 - 12/30/09 06:42 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I never saw the point of this, without spawning to something else.

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Re: First attempt [Re: Oareo]
    #11744537 - 12/30/09 06:44 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

if you don't have a pressure cooker but you really don't want to do cakes then you can do that.

but if you are worried about yeild then that is not a good reason to want to do a casing. it isn't easier


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Re: First attempt [Re: Wimy]
    #11744548 - 12/30/09 06:47 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I don't understand what you are saying here...

I have a pressure cooker... so what are you suggesting?


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744560 - 12/30/09 06:48 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

rye grass seed:thumbup:


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Re: First attempt [Re: Wimy]
    #11744577 - 12/30/09 06:51 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I've searched everywhere for some Rye Berries in my area, but they are unavailable unfortunately, and I'm trying to limit my transactions over the net.
Do you have another suggestion? I see many people having success with WBS. That is def. available to me.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744588 - 12/30/09 06:53 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

i pretty much guarantee you there is a small and a big bag of rgs available for you locally. check home depot, lowes, the marts.


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Re: First attempt [Re: Wimy]
    #11744599 - 12/30/09 06:56 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah, I already did all that man. I promise you, I haven't found anything in my area. Tractor Supply, Home Depot, Lowes, Wally World... nothing. =\ which sucks 'cause I know how successful it has been for people.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744603 - 12/30/09 06:57 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

haha okay well birth your cakes


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Re: First attempt [Re: Wimy]
    #11744607 - 12/30/09 06:59 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

LoL I haven't got to start them yet, I was just wondering if the whole casing is something a noob should attempt on his first try.
It wouldn't affect my yield?


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744614 - 12/30/09 07:01 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

no reason to case cubes. just spawn a few cakes to some coir and you'll be delighted at the outcome :laugh:


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Re: First attempt [Re: BreakThru]
    #11744641 - 12/30/09 07:08 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

If I did happen to find some Rye Berries, then casing would be essential?
I think I just found a location that carries it, which I will be calling tomorrow. :laugh:


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744689 - 12/30/09 07:17 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Rye berries can be found in most health food store. If they aren't out on the shelves in the store, then I'm sure they would be more than happy to order you a bag.

RGS or rye grass seed is probably even more widely available and definitely cheaper. Literally every hardware store or garden center should carry grass seed.

If you have a pressure cooker, then grain (berries or grass seed) is the best way to go. Once you have your colonized grain, the best thing is to spawn it to one of the common bulk substrates. Casing straight grain or crumbled PF cakes just isn't worth it.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744694 - 12/30/09 07:18 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

depends what species you're growing. casing is not neccessary for cubensis regardless. some say casing doesn't make a difference and some say it helps... but it's not enough for it to be the standard.


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Re: First attempt [Re: BreakThru]
    #11744705 - 12/30/09 07:20 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

i haven't had luck finding rye either and i've been everywhere possible (health food stores, hardware stores, home depot, lowes, grocery stores, etc.). i finally had to give in and order them online.


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Re: First attempt [Re: wygram]
    #11744725 - 12/30/09 07:22 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I must be dumb...
There is a difference between Rye Berries and RGS? They have looked identical to me. LOL!


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744730 - 12/30/09 07:23 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

:tongue: same thing


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Re: First attempt [Re: BreakThru]
    #11744732 - 12/30/09 07:24 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Yeah, it sucks. But... I'm a nervous type guy and I don't want to ya know.. order a syringe.. and order rye grain.. and it be completely obvious to someone as to what I'm attempting. LOL! so I'm trying to keep all my online transactions to a min.


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Re: First attempt [Re: wygram]
    #11744739 - 12/30/09 07:25 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

wygram said:
Rye berries can be found in most health food store. If they aren't out on the shelves in the store, then I'm sure they would be more than happy to order you a bag.

RGS or rye grass seed is probably even more widely available and definitely cheaper. Literally every hardware store or garden center should carry grass seed.

If you have a pressure cooker, then grain (berries or grass seed) is the best way to go. Once you have your colonized grain, the best thing is to spawn it to one of the common bulk substrates. Casing straight grain or crumbled PF cakes just isn't worth it.




Very misleading, then... :P


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744831 - 12/30/09 07:40 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

i guess i shouldn't have said the "same thing" but they do look and work very similar. the berries would be the superior but can be hard to find locally for some (like myself). many who can find them get them from health stores because they are used in foods. rgs is the seed used to plant grass so for that you could check gardening and hardware stores. many times it won't be labeled as RYE GRASS SEED so you have to read the labels carefully and make sure rye is there.


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Re: First attempt [Re: BreakThru]
    #11744883 - 12/30/09 07:49 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

So if I call around and ask for GRASS SEED, and they have it... then go look for Rye Grass Seed on the bag? Maybe that is... mostly my problem. LOL!
And I'm gonna call around to some local health stores and ask if they carry Rye Berries, I didn't know there was a difference like that. Wow... Thanks. Haha


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11744955 - 12/30/09 08:01 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

Quote:

ThePharmahuasquero said:
Yeah, it sucks. But... I'm a nervous type guy and I don't want to ya know.. order a syringe.. and order rye grain.. and it be completely obvious to someone as to what I'm attempting. LOL! so I'm trying to keep all my online transactions to a min.





But really it wouldn't be obvious to anyone except someone who grows mushrooms themselves. The general public kinda has NO idea how mushrooms grow. Grain? They'll just think you're baking organic bread or some other stuff. And if you told someone at a health food store that you grow edibles, they'll want to become your best friend.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ambargh]
    #11744972 - 12/30/09 08:04 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

i've lived in a half dozen cities since i started my amatuer mycology streak and all of them had rye grain available.

now i just order it because it's cheaper to order (including shipping) then it is to buy at a health food store.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ambargh]
    #11744980 - 12/30/09 08:05 PM (15 years, 21 days ago)

I was talking about transactions over the internet. Buying a syringe (psilocybe, in particular), rye grain, and other mushroom growing supplies all over the internet, getting them shipped to my house... that, to me, is what would throw up a red flag.
Oh, of course if I find it somewhere local and I can pay cash for it, I would just say I'm growing edibles, or I'm in a mycology class and need supplies for research. That's not a problem at all.


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Edited by ThePharmahuasquero (12/30/09 08:06 PM)

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Re: First attempt [Re: Citizen13]
    #11744991 - 12/30/09 08:07 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I wish I knew what you do, 'cause I've had a ridiculous time trying to find supplies locally.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11745095 - 12/30/09 08:28 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I get my grain at Native Sun health foods for $1.48 a lb. I just take in a bucket that holds 40 pounds and they gladly go in the back and fill it up for me. Those people are healthy and happy. Online I find it for the same price, but shipping is usually $20 extra.

And plus, it's not like you're going to order syringes every day. After one good grow, you can make prints and trade for other 'strains'.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ambargh]
    #11745106 - 12/30/09 08:31 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

I guess you didn't read the part where I'm just beginning at this..? LOL


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11745155 - 12/30/09 08:39 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

you can make syringes from prints - they're so easy


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Re: First attempt [Re: ambargh]
    #11745174 - 12/30/09 08:43 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

Yeah, I'm gonna attempt that, as well as the whole LC thing when I cross that bridge. I was also seeing that grain to grain spawn, which seemed pretty interesting to me as well.
I'm just tryin' to get settled into a successful grow and see my rights and wrongs before I try and bite off more than I can chew.


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Re: First attempt [Re: ThePharmahuasquero]
    #11745455 - 12/30/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

i order bags, syringes, grain, agar, pvc parts, additives, culturing equipment, blowers, filters, etc etc

i guess if you are the type of person that thinks the government actually goes over your bank transactions then sure, be paranoid, but that's not me.


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Re: First attempt [Re: Citizen13]
    #11745500 - 12/30/09 09:36 PM (15 years, 20 days ago)

Okay...
I'm in the military... It's being sent to military housing.. and yes, the government DOES go over my transactions and will kinda have watch on... LOL! Well, now THAT is out there.. Ugh...


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