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trashcan
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time for the fc?
#11729359 - 12/28/09 12:21 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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ok, so i have 2 bread pans colonizing, and i have 2 trays colonizing plus 4 cakes in the fc right now. i am going to do a little experiment to see how uncassed fruits compared to a peatmoss and verm casing. im going to do one bread pan uncassed and one tray uncassed, and the opposite. what im wondering is if my bread pan is ready to go into my fc in the morning.
heres how she looks

think its time??
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729366 - 12/28/09 12:23 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Is that bread pan cased?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: nexus1946]
#11729379 - 12/28/09 12:25 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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no this one is uncased, im gonna do the cased one in a little bit, its just slightly behind, think i shold case that tomorrow?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: nexus1946]
#11729382 - 12/28/09 12:26 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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No its not ready. Wait a few more days. The substrate shouldn't show so much as shown in the pic.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: T-Rex]
#11729390 - 12/28/09 12:29 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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T-Rex said: No its not ready. Wait a few more days. The substrate shouldn't show so much as shown in the pic.
Yep, what he said.
That's why I asked if it was cased.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: nexus1946]
#11729394 - 12/28/09 12:31 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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should it be all white? or like 90%?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729399 - 12/28/09 12:34 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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100%
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729404 - 12/28/09 12:35 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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That's one of my mono tubs and as you can see it looks like yours somewhat. Well mine isn't ready for I say about 6 more days. 100% white/colonized. Any of those brown spots/uncolonized substrate can become infected with bacteria
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: T-Rex]
#11729419 - 12/28/09 12:43 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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I've placed trays into fruiting conditions while some of the coir, etc., was slightly visible and had no problems. However, the best procedure is to let the trays, etc., fully colonize before placing in the FC or GH.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: T-Rex]
#11729422 - 12/28/09 12:44 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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so itll be kind of like a giant cake, would it be bennificial to birth it into the terrarium? and my depth is 1 1/2", think thats fine? and the ones i case think about a half inch is good for casing?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: nexus1946]
#11729425 - 12/28/09 12:45 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Hope you didn't leave that lid off too long.
Also, how deep is that substrate? I have a feeling you are going to be very disappointed with fruit size. Sub looks extremely shallow.
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lids havent been off for more than 30 seconds or so at a time, and the sub is 1 1/2", its a really deep pan, too shallow?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729438 - 12/28/09 12:48 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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when the foil is off i also make a point to not breathe on it or stir air much in the area
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729439 - 12/28/09 12:49 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yeah, saw your post after I posted.
Generally you want to go deeper than that. Aim for 3-4" for decent sized fruits.
Edit- Fresh air can stall colonization so limit it as much as you can.
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Edited by dancefloordale (12/28/09 12:50 AM)
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729443 - 12/28/09 12:49 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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I would only use 1/4 inch casing.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: nexus1946]
#11729444 - 12/28/09 12:50 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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nexus1946 said: I've placed trays into fruiting conditions while some of the coir, etc., was slightly visible and had no problems. However, the best procedure is to let the trays, etc., fully colonize before placing in the FC or GH.
Yes I get away with it too. But to someone who is just learning the ropes of mycology the best advice is for them is to follow EVERY thing to a T. People just learning tend be less sterile with their work and a casing that is not 100% colonized introduced into conditions that arent totally sterile may compromise work but a fully colonized substrate is resistant to many forms of bacteria
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: T-Rex]
#11729462 - 12/28/09 12:53 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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T-Rex said:
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nexus1946 said: I've placed trays into fruiting conditions while some of the coir, etc., was slightly visible and had no problems. However, the best procedure is to let the trays, etc., fully colonize before placing in the FC or GH.
Yes I get away with it too. But to someone who is just learning the ropes of mycology the best advice is for them is to follow EVERY thing to a T. People just learning tend be less sterile with their work and a casing that is not 100% colonized introduced into conditions that arent totally sterile may compromise work but
Agreed. That's why I said, "However, the best procedure is to let the trays, etc., fully colonize before placing in the FC or GH."
Also, you don't want the casing colonized. It's there only to keep up the RH.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: T-Rex]
#11729468 - 12/28/09 12:55 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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if they dont want fresh air whats the point in putting in the breathing holes in the foil?
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729469 - 12/28/09 12:55 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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GE, not FAE.
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Re: time for the fc? [Re: trashcan]
#11729471 - 12/28/09 12:56 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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i read that i shold let it partially colonize the casing, say a day or two, just to see some myc above it so it can grow out easier. is this right?
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