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All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE
    #11725085 - 12/27/09 09:09 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

I made this tray on December 20th. I look at it today and their was a mushroom. All my monotubs/trays keep fruiting early. I have to fruit now huh?


rye berries spawned to unpasteurized coir


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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: blackdust]
    #11725102 - 12/27/09 09:13 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

pinning triggers: air/humditiy/light

somehow they are getting these before they are done colonizing, telling the myc it has reached the "surface" and it is time to fruit.

or they are contaminated and have run out of room to grow due to competing molds or bacteria.


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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: Citizen13]
    #11725117 - 12/27/09 09:15 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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or they are contaminated and have run out of room to grow due to competing molds or bacteria.




My bet's probably on that.  Did you use verm or anything else besides coir in your sub?


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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: Citizen13]
    #11725123 - 12/27/09 09:17 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

For the trays


AIR: I punctured 3 - 4 smale holes for air

Humidity: Rye berries have good water content. Coir was hydrated as explained on the package.

Light: Added foil to keep the sub from the dark

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i guess its time to change things up

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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: skullhuman]
    #11725133 - 12/27/09 09:19 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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or they are contaminated and have run out of room to grow due to competing molds or bacteria.




My bet's probably on that.  Did you use verm or anything else besides coir in your sub?




No. The tray smells like mushroom and the mycelium looks legit. The sub is getting triggered someway. If its a contam it should smell right?

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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: skullhuman]
    #11725134 - 12/27/09 09:19 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

One stray mushroom doesn't a pinset make.  It could have been an invitro pin in the grain jar.  Also, mycelium doesn't appreciate non-pasteurized substrates.  Performance will be much better if you'll pasteurize, whether it contaminates or not.
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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11725175 - 12/27/09 09:30 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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Performance will be much better if you'll pasteurize, whether it contaminates or not.
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Even on coir?


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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: skullhuman]
    #11725203 - 12/27/09 09:38 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

Yes, coir should be pasteurized. 

I've commented numerous times in regards to contamination questions that coir can be left unpasteurized and rarely contaminate.  However, that's not an endorsement of using unpasteurized substrates, but rather a statement on the inability of conidial spores to germinate on coir. 

Coir performs much better when it's been heat treated.  Fungi are more closely related to humans than plants, and humans get far more nutrition from cooked food than raw.  Cooking helps to break down the cell structure, making it easier for mycelium(and humans) to digest it.
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Re: All projects keep fruiting early / NEED ADVICE [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #11725210 - 12/27/09 09:39 AM (15 years, 24 days ago)

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It could have been an invitro pin in the grain jar.





I only used the grain jars with invitro pins in them for my trays.
So I could have left the tray incubating till 100%? I all ready placed it in my shotgun fruiting chamber so their is no going back now.

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