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Simpanssi
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First time grower needs some advices :)
#11725077 - 12/27/09 09:06 AM (15 years, 24 days ago) |
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Hello guys! I've been reading forums quite long and now I got to register 
So.. This is my first time cultivating mushrooms and choose P.C B+, screwed 5 pf-cakes but there is still some hope with my last cake  Its been in fruiting chamber for 4 days now with lights on about 6h a day. Yesterday morning I noticed first white dots popping out of the cake but I'm worried about humidity (70%) and cake being too dry.. There is 3cm wet light gravel at bottom of terrarium. I dunked the cake for 7h before putting it to fruiting without rolling and it seems to be pretty dry from top. Chamber isn't air-tight but I have been misting the walls 2x day, tho I have read that I shouldn't do that after white dots appear, is it true?
Should I re-dunk the cake even the white knots are growing or do they get damaged by that? How about light? Do I need to give it 24h light now or can I continue 6h/day cycle?
Probably stupid questions but this is my first time and I don't wanna screw it.
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11725104 - 12/27/09 09:13 AM (15 years, 24 days ago) |
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you shouldnt dunk them again if you see pins fomring, just mist it and be patient, then dunk after your first flush. light isn't very important, just give it indirect light for 6 to 12 hrs a day like you have been doing. good luck
eidt* next time use perlite /edit*
Edited by WalterShabas (12/27/09 09:16 AM)
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Simpanssi
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: WalterShabas]
#11725127 - 12/27/09 09:18 AM (15 years, 24 days ago) |
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Thanks for a fast reply. I got one more question: Should I mist it "upwards" that water lays down on the cake or just the walls?
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11725652 - 12/27/09 11:29 AM (15 years, 24 days ago) |
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Look up "double end casing" also referred to by some as DEC. It might be ideal for your purposes.
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Jordan2Dope]
#11727696 - 12/27/09 06:04 PM (15 years, 24 days ago) |
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Ignore any advice telling you not to directly mist the cakes. This info is at least 5 years outdated. FAE+evaporation from the surface of the cake are your two biggest pinning triggers. Just make sure you are fanning after you mist. Good luck!
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11729731 - 12/28/09 02:32 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Simpanssi said: Thanks for a fast reply. I got one more question: Should I mist it "upwards" that water lays down on the cake or just the walls?
You can mist upwards if the mist is very fine and you fan really well right after misting. Misting walls is of course always good and it's also good to fan even without misting. Good luck!
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: MissShroom]
#11729740 - 12/28/09 02:35 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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misting walls is bunk info. just mist above the cakes and let the mist land all over the FC, including on top of the cake.
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Optx]
#11729839 - 12/28/09 03:13 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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If misting the walls raises the humidity, why would that be bunk? Or do you mean "only misting the walls is bunk"?
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Thyrax
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: WalterShabas]
#11729865 - 12/28/09 03:25 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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WalterShabas said: you shouldnt dunk them again if you see pins fomring, just mist it and be patient, then dunk after your first flush. light isn't very important, just give it indirect light for 6 to 12 hrs a day like you have been doing. good luck
eidt* next time use perlite /edit*
plz don't talk when you don't know what you talking about. People are often waiting to see pins forming invitro before birther wich involve dunking and rolling.
Find a way to raise your rh to at least 90% you will have very poor result if you are below 90% And a 7h dunk is kinda short. Dunk for 24h it won't the pins, they will benefit from it. so yeah, redunk for 24h before your first flush and it should be fine.
Edit: but yeah go get some perlite lol
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Edited by Thyrax (12/28/09 03:25 AM)
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Necco]
#11729869 - 12/28/09 03:26 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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mubba said: If misting the walls raises the humidity, why would that be bunk? Or do you mean "only misting the walls is bunk"?
the latter
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Optx]
#11729897 - 12/28/09 03:37 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Optx said:
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mubba said: If misting the walls raises the humidity, why would that be bunk? Or do you mean "only misting the walls is bunk"?
the latter
yep and misting directly on the cake will hydrate it as well so its a 2 in 1 lol. Just fan enough so there is no standing water on the cake. Rolled cake can be misted pretty heavily ( with a very fine mist ) since the verm will absord the water and protect the myc also. I have been misting my cake like 12-13 time per day and fanning everytime and I got a monster flush. Thats mad fae as well a perfect rh and moisture. Ive had problem with uncased bulk tray. Flat surface like tray or monotub that are left uncased tend to hole water pretty much more than a rolled cake so be carfull, mine where bruised all over I pretty much ruined my grow.
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Thyrax]
#11729975 - 12/28/09 04:32 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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OK. I have been misting and fanning for 5-7 times a day now, is it fine? Now I'm worried that the cake formed those hyphal knots after 24h in FC and now the same 20-30 knots have been there for +4days not growing.. If I redunk (24h) will knots suffer from it?
What about rolling? I'm sure knots will die if I do that.
Edited by Simpanssi (12/28/09 04:38 AM)
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Thyrax
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11730031 - 12/28/09 05:16 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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you can dunk primordia for 24h and they will even benefit from it as for the rolling do it as gentle as possible and it should be ok mushroom are fairly resistant so just be carfull.
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Simpanssi
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Thyrax]
#11730072 - 12/28/09 05:58 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Cool. So I think I'm doing double end casing with verm but if so, should I still roll it all over? Sorry for such a stupid questions but hey I'm a noob
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Thyrax
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11730089 - 12/28/09 06:07 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Simpanssi said: Cool. So I think I'm doing double end casing with verm but if so, should I still roll it all over? Sorry for such a stupid questions but hey I'm a noob 
yeah roll it you want verm everywhere
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Simpanssi
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Re: First time grower needs some advices :) [Re: Simpanssi]
#11730212 - 12/28/09 07:03 AM (15 years, 23 days ago) |
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Thank you very much! Dunking it atm and I hope it will pin
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