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marijuana dan
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15072730 - 09/13/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Turns out i have to return this piece of shit FUCKING pressure cooker, i smelled burning food and i opened up the pc to see the tinfoil was black. By the grace of god my jars didn't crack so i just caught it in time.
A little rubber nut type thing that hangs inside the PC very loosely is supposed to get pushed upward and lock when the pressure is just right, it is not doing this because it is a piece of fucking shit.
Don't buy a name brand that doesnt turn up any search results when you type it into google, and you should be set.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15072764 - 09/13/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you rest the jars in the pc alone? Or did you use a rack?
I put 2 towels on the bottom of my PC before i put the jars in there.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15072796 - 09/13/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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what happened is the lock ceased to function and the steam continued to boil the pot dry
They are elevated on a rack well above the water
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15072827 - 09/13/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh damn, id say if your going to buy another PC go with a Presto brand (i think thats what its called) alot of them have the gauges, im not sure if their more expensive tho. Mine doesnt have the gauge and so far my jars are colonizing just dandy.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15072860 - 09/13/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i can manually push the pin so it locks in place, but then i will be skipping this step
"the safety lock will move up and down, releasing dry air and a little steam, once the cooker has reached is operating pressure and temperature, the safety lock will seal and remain in the up position until the pressure is released"
The first time i operated the pressure cooker was the only time the weight on the top gradually rocked back and fourth, so i assumed it was working. The only reason it worked was because the lock was stuck in the locked position. So i unstuck it so it could go up and down again.
Should i just lock it up again and pressure cook?
Edited by marijuana dan (09/13/11 12:52 PM)
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15072918 - 09/13/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The lock takes a little bit to get locked into place. I thought i was doing things wrong at first too, it took 15 or 20 minutes or so to lock it into place. Ill be sterilizing more of my jars tonight.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15073428 - 09/13/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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k00laid said: and BRF works without gypsum just fine
Gypsum Calcium sulfate, CaSO4. A greyish powder used in spawn making. It prevents the clumping of the grain kernels and acts as a pH-buffer.
It seems if using gypsum in BRF cakes that the cake wouldnt be so cake like....until this thread when koolaid mentioned putting gypsum in BRF cakes i hadnt read that anywhere. Im sure it wouldnt ruin the cakes, but to me it seems like putting it in the BRF would just be wastefull.
Shea is among many users that swears by gypsum in their BRF cakes, read his tek here:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613. Dont take it the wrong way man, but if you haven't read it any where else you need to do some more reading. Like I said please dont take that the wrong way, just trying to spread some knowledge.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: The Influence]
#15073492 - 09/13/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Influence said: but if you haven't read it any where else you need to do some more reading.
+1
gypsum can be used in like all stages.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: The Influence]
#15073508 - 09/13/11 02:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Influence said:
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kronikpuff said:
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k00laid said: and BRF works without gypsum just fine
Gypsum Calcium sulfate, CaSO4. A greyish powder used in spawn making. It prevents the clumping of the grain kernels and acts as a pH-buffer.
It seems if using gypsum in BRF cakes that the cake wouldnt be so cake like....until this thread when koolaid mentioned putting gypsum in BRF cakes i hadnt read that anywhere. Im sure it wouldnt ruin the cakes, but to me it seems like putting it in the BRF would just be wastefull.
Shea is among many users that swears by gypsum in their BRF cakes, read his tek here:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613. Dont take it the wrong way man, but if you haven't read it any where else you need to do some more reading. Like I said please dont take that the wrong way, just trying to spread some knowledge.
Please dont take it the wrong way.....is like saying no offence but.....its going to be taken the wrong way....and it will offend the person. Just spreading some knowledge 
Anyways, im a noob grower and therefore havent ever heard of shae or others swearing by gypsum. Maybe its cuz i did one brf tek, and stuck to that one, found my yeild wasnt that high and moved to WBS tek.
Share some knowledge influence and tell me what gypum would do to benefit a BRF cake?
Edited by kronikpuff (09/13/11 03:09 PM)
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15073605 - 09/13/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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kronikpuff said:
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The Influence said:
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kronikpuff said:
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k00laid said: and BRF works without gypsum just fine
Gypsum Calcium sulfate, CaSO4. A greyish powder used in spawn making. It prevents the clumping of the grain kernels and acts as a pH-buffer.
It seems if using gypsum in BRF cakes that the cake wouldnt be so cake like....until this thread when koolaid mentioned putting gypsum in BRF cakes i hadnt read that anywhere. Im sure it wouldnt ruin the cakes, but to me it seems like putting it in the BRF would just be wastefull.
Shea is among many users that swears by gypsum in their BRF cakes, read his tek here:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613. Dont take it the wrong way man, but if you haven't read it any where else you need to do some more reading. Like I said please dont take that the wrong way, just trying to spread some knowledge.
Please dont take it the wrong way.....is like saying no offence but.....its going to be taken the wrong way....and it will offend the person. Just spreading some knowledge 
Anyways, im a noob grower and therefore havent ever heard of shae or others swearing by gypsum. Maybe its cuz i did one brf tek, and stuck to that one, found my yeild wasnt that high and moved to WBS tek.
Share some knowledge influence and tell me what gypum would do to benefit a BRF cake?
I think koolaid already answered that question for you. But dude if I meant to be a prick I would have. I said don't take it the wrong way because I didn't want you to take offense, but to learn something. But whatever guy you seem like the man with the plan, so keep telling people that gypsum is for grains only because of your failed one and only attempt with it in brf cakes.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: The Influence]
#15073633 - 09/13/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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gypsum is for calcium and sulfur
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: k00laid]
#15074223 - 09/13/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Neither koolaid or you Influence have said what putting gypsum into your brf cakes helps it,
what does sulfur or calcium add to the brf cakes?
Nutrients?
And what i said was
It SEEMS like gypsum would be a waste
because the shroomery glossary says, it is to stop grains from clumping together.
If you want to share knowledge and not sound like a prick then how about you answer my only question before you rag on my first attempt at a grow.
I am a man with a plan, i follow all the teks to a T. And even put gypsum in my WBS jars. Despite not understanding wtf it does. Other then what i listed. I read through 3 or 4 teks/growlogs and the ones i read didnt say a thing about adding gypsum into the brf mixture.
And i NEVER once said gypsum was only for grains, i said it SEEMS like it wouldnt be a good mixture with the cakes because they wouldnt stick together as much.
Anyways thanks for all the Helpfull criticism
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15074390 - 09/13/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kronikpuff- Adding gypsum to brf cakes aids as a ph buffer, also adding helpful minerals, vital for mushroom fruiting. Cited here:http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14712266#14712266
That was one of the first threads that popped up when I typed "adding gypsum to brf cakes" into the search engine. There are many other threads on the subject, also typing that into google or yahoo will bring you even more results. Like I said before you just need to read a little more into something before dismissing it, you want to get all butthurt cause you only read a whopping 3-4 teks to base your assumptions on whatever. Good luck with your endeavors man, if I hurt your feelings there is always the ignore button. I was just trying to help marijuanadan by re-assuring him that it is beneficial to brf cakes to add the gypsum after you said it "seems wasteful", also to teach you something as you were refuting what koolaid said and he was right. I honestly didn't mean to be condescending or insult your intelligence, but whatever guy. Like I said goodluck.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15074395 - 09/13/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never said gypsum is 'only' to coat the outside of the grains. Don't assume that minerals have only one purpose. In addition, I've typed dozens of times to NOT rinse the grains after the soak.
If there's things you don't understand, simply ask, but we can do without the attitude.
Gypsum can provide up to a 25% increase in harvest weight over not using it in bulk substrates. RR
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As for grains, I doubt any of the gypsum soaks into the interior of the grain. Most is captured in the porous surface of the grains where it helps prevent clumping, as well as to supply calcium and sulfur to the mycelium, both of which are essential minerals used in fruit formation. Some of it gets poured off when you drain the water of course, but using the amounts suggested leaves enough in place to work very well. RR
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You should take RR's advice about losing the attitude as well, no need to attack k00laid, he was just helping. 
All this info can be found in Paul Stamet's book as well.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Chez man]
#15076624 - 09/14/11 05:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its good to see other people arguing for a change but lets be realistic here, we are just a couple of typing avatars on a computer monitor.. I see people defending their opinions like they are defending their home from flaming arrows hahah, ease up guys!
Check this shit
I got a 5lb bag of brown rice on sale for $2.99!

I could not believe my eyes when i saw this price, this size should cost $7.99 at least. I had to doublecheck the price because i was certain that it was wrong.. The store i got it at is waldbaums, right next to this were small 16oz bags of the exact same stuff for $1.49! So if you have a waldbaums in your area, keep an eye out for this stuff going on sale!
What i like about the carolina brand is that the ingredients are just "Whole grain brown rice" and nothing else. Other brands, even the ones that say natural on it, contain other weird ingredients or will say something like "parboiled brown rice".
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15076727 - 09/14/11 06:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is not organic but when your jar looks like this 7 days after inoculation you know something went right!
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Chez man]
#15077358 - 09/14/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Chez man said:
You should take RR's advice about losing the attitude as well, no need to attack k00laid, he was just helping. 
None of what i said was directed at k00laid.
As i never did a search on
Adding gypsum to brf cakes because i never really heard of people adding it to that. What i did search was
Gypsum shroomery
And got that it was to keep kernal grains from clumping.
Theres 18376589762387624 things out there to learn about mycology, and ive only just started this hobby a few months back.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
#15077543 - 09/14/11 10:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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kronikpuff said: what does sulfur or calcium add to the brf cakes?
Nutrients?
sulfur and calcium are minerals.
and are used in the same way that you use calcium, except you know.... no bones.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: k00laid]
#15077820 - 09/14/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just want to say somethin awesome that happened
A few days ago i ordered two syringes from spores101, one was P.E.S.A. and the other wa Ban Hua Thai. This is after i had two sucessfull grows with Brazilian, and B+ syringes. Anyways i used the pesa, it worked great, i used the bht and it worked great. I had two jars go bad of the BHT so i got mad and being the little prick that i am i decided to mention it to spores101 that i loved the pesa, but had a few contams with BHT. I x'd out of the webpage and forgot about it
Just a few minutes ago i heard a truck pull outside my house and surely enough it was a UPS truck, they sent me a new BHT syringe based on my word alone. Impressive
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15077851 - 09/14/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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sounds cool man.
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