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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #15002650 - 08/30/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i love how sexysmurf said "thats not gonna work" haha





lol, i still say it.  but  :goodluck:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #15002676 - 08/30/11 04:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't get too excited yet, it's rhizo but its just hard to see.



And i have many jars so im not having a contam operation thankyou very much

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15002706 - 08/30/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha yea that looks good:thumbup:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15002711 - 08/30/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

All i have been trying to say is that contaminants are not as hard to get away from as everybody says, and that you will be able to have sucess without a pressure cooker. I have done it in the past and want to show people how they can do it. Of course a pressure cooker will call for a more thorough sterilization, but if you want to try other tek's than you might consider trying this out

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15003113 - 08/30/11 06:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea man your not telling anyone anything they don't know already, although your method of "sterilizing" substrate and then putting it in jars is pretty different than any other method (steaming or microwaving in jars/containers)

it really doesn't make sense to me to sterilize your substrate outside of jars, this sounds like "pasteurizing" not sterilizing. not saying your method doesn't work, just saying its not actually sterilizing.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #15003272 - 08/30/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah i guess your right, to be honest your better off just spending the money and getting a pressure cooker. Although my method may seem easier, its all about the same amount of work.. That is my final conclusion

Sorry to the guys i tried to burn for putting in thier own 2cents, its all fun and games afterall right!

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15003372 - 08/30/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if you say so... i have a microwave and a pot to steam cook that works perfectly fine:shrug: i don't need a PC and i don't think i'll be any better off getting on, but i feel better about sterilizing without a PC than i do pasteurizing substrate. i'm not saying it doesn't work when you clearly are showing us that it does.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #15011472 - 09/01/11 11:20 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For all the people who want to know how to sterilize without a pressure cooker, you should try this!

1.get a piece of screen from your dads garage.



2. Fold it and force it to stay put inside your pot.



3.Fill the bottom of the pot with water

4.Place jars on screen

5.Put the pot lid back on

6.Steam sterilize baby!

Much easier than using tinfoil or jar lids IMO

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15011523 - 09/01/11 11:32 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i'm confused.  your first post where i responded "that's not gonna work" involved you merely baking the ingredients at 400 for 15 to 20 minutes.

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ok i am going to do an experiment that i hope works.

-1 cup fine verm spread out on a sheet of tin foil and put in oven at  400F

-Half cup brown rice (manually grounded to flour) spread out on a sheet of tin foil and put in the oven alongside the verm both at 400F for about 15-20 minutes.

-Half cup unopened poland spring water bottle

-4CC Spore syringe Solution

-Mix everything together very well in a large sterile bowl

-fill up jars, top off with verm, pretend pressure cookers never existed.





i don't think anyone claimed that steam sterilization doesn't work.  brf is suitable for steam sterilization to the low density of the substrate.  good practice indicating 90 minutes, but even grain can be steam sterilized per RR at 8 hrs.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15011547 - 09/01/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yeah your definately confused,read my posts.

If you followed this whole thread you would understand that i started off with an experiment.. The experiment worked but not as well as i hoped considering two of my six jars had gone contaminated. I then posted the conclusion of my experiment saying that you are better off using steam sterilization. Also, If you look at the title of this thread it is called "Growing mushrooms without a pressure cooker"... so i posted pictures of how I steam sterilize without the use of a pressure cooker. Why your confused.. i don't know

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15011609 - 09/01/11 11:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

eh, i don't care anymore.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15011725 - 09/01/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry smurf i know you think its all about you but i just wanted to show the hundreds of people (that do care) a great way to steam sterilize their jars. With pictures included!

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15011754 - 09/01/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea because its like steam sterilizing actually wasn't common method for years and its all about smurf:rolleyes:

old news is so exciting, did you come up with steam sterilizing all by yourself?:eek:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #15011782 - 09/01/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nobody on this website has posted picture instructions on how to steam sterilize, i think i broke the ice by providing pictures for the begginers out there and the ones who are new to this community.

How is the microwave going for you?

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15011813 - 09/01/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

if it didn't work for me i wouldn't suggest it. so as i said earlier "like a charm":thumbup:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #15011825 - 09/01/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol, this guy isn't even making sense.  first he talks about baking his substrate and scooping it into jars in the open air.  then he's posting pics of a pot to do steam sterilization.  i still haven't figured out what his "tek" is. :crazy2:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SexySmurff]
    #15011842 - 09/01/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol yea i think its obvious who is actually confused here.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #15012058 - 09/01/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This year and a half old thread has been stating the obvious from it's very inception with its presumptuous title: "growing mushrooms without a pressure cooker".

Steam sterilizing  was common knowledge among mycologists even before Professor Fanaticus made it infamous with his PF Tek.

Marijuana dan if you wanted to make it easier for others to find the results of your experiments, start a new thread and title it "how to grow mushrooms in your parents' house with minimal supplies and effort", and I bet you're right, you'll have hundreds of people interested in your thread and up to 50 pages in no time. :tard:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Chez man]
    #15012209 - 09/01/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im just posting pictures to give others an idea of what they can do, and i bet you a million bucks there will be at least one other person who will find my pictures useful, and that alone makes it worth it for me. Looking around this site I didn't find any pictures of how to elevate your jars off the bottom. Just pages and pages of how to in text, Why not post one? It is easy and takes two seconds.. I started off formal only talking about subject matter, and it didnt get personal until all you guys started throwing jabs my way.. And just because steam sterilization has been around for a long time, why does that prohibit me from showing others how i did it? You think i havent before met strangers on the internet that would like to fight for no reason?? Think again

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #15012261 - 09/01/11 02:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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marijuana dan said:
Looking around this site I didn't find any pictures of how to elevate your jars off the bottom.




you must have missed these videos.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek


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