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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff] * 1
    #14987061 - 08/27/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Correct, but i just thought of something, what if i put a triplefolded piece of tinfoil over the pot before covering it with a lid.. Sounds air tight to me.. but then again i have no idea what im talking about and would hate to blow up my house. Heres what i mean



I plan on going yard sale-ing tomorrow to seek out a PC. I'll also stop by every thrift store i see from now until i sucessfully find one. I just don't feel like dropping 60 bucks on a brand new one that will be too small anyways. I've also been checking a few out on ebay

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14987082 - 08/27/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Heres what i do thats seemed to work for me. Im doing it the same exact wa with jus a normal big pot and lid. I put my jars in the bottom with a rag on the bottom, put 2 inches or so (i think your actually using smaller jars so just maybe an inch, bring water to a big boil, and then reduce hea so its a simmering boil, let boil for 120 minutes. Theres a tek on this website that is perfect for not using a pressure cooker but i cant find it since my computer crashed. But its how i have done my jars. Worked the firs time, i just did it again yesterday.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14987088 - 08/27/11 02:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I dont worry about air tightness....people will prolly say the tek i found is old and out dated, but its working for me...

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14987126 - 08/27/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome man, im glad thats worked for you, i will do the same. In the 60 dollar "Lets Grow Mushrooms" video i bought, he says to put rocks or jar lids or crumbled up foil at the bottom to keep the jars off of the bottom.. For some reason he says this exactly word for word (opening the video now)

"on the site that i teach on alot of people put umm a dish towel or a or a or a towel in the bottom and then they'll put water in there and then put their jars on top of the dish towel and uh its just not a real good method"  lol stuttering stanley

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14987187 - 08/27/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Meh maybe cuz it takes up some of the air? I did it to keep the jars from cracking fro. Heat.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14987517 - 08/27/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

your verm layer is getting wet in the pc because:
1. your not using foil on the lid, or
2. your releasing the pressure manually and too fast.  the pressure forces the water vapor out the pot and ALSO your jars, the verm layer is the first in line to condensate the moisture thats why it gets wet.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: pockets le peu]
    #14987912 - 08/27/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Even if i do it correctly the body of the substate is hardened tenfold

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14988188 - 08/27/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i never use my stove for growing... everything is sterilized in microwavable containers for like 4 minutes in the microwave...

works like a charm, easier and faster than most meals i cook for myself



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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14988717 - 08/27/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yea i never considered breakin the jar 20 cents a peice is cheap where at?

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: nataba]
    #14988976 - 08/27/11 09:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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yea i never considered breakin the jar 20 cents a peice is cheap where at?





Why would you break the jar if you didnt have to? You can just steralize your bigger jars...not break them and reuse.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14990536 - 08/28/11 10:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I know you guys are really hung up about my jars, but as i mentioned before my dad was throwing them out (a 12 pack) and he kindly asked me if i would like to use them for my mushrooms. I said yeah sure thank's dad! (then we danced around for hours).. I've had them for awhile now and IMO they make awesome mini substrates. I just like how cool and mini they look, Im sorry if you lost any sleep over it..

As for nataba, you can get them super cheap in one of those 12 packs at wal-mart. If not you will find them in your local grocery store for like 48cents a piece. I also have two unopened 12 pack's of BALL brand name jars, so im not cheap or anything.. i just thought it would be cool to have a mini cylindrical shaped substrate, And it sure was!

Im well aware that no one is obligated to respond to my questions or give me any input at all, but when i see new posts i think to myself "finally the answers to my questions!!" but i guess not lol

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14991277 - 08/28/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im not aware that you had a question...lol.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14991381 - 08/28/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

...You are not helping me along and you are not going to succeed in making me feel stupid. I can understand if you have too much free time on your hands but please, use it to pester somebody else. thanks

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14991594 - 08/28/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

your questions are not plainly stated man, its difficult to find your questions between all of your bitching about other posters who aren't helping you.:shrug:

some advice i have about your steam cooker set up is that it should not be air tight, it will need to vent that is how a steam cooker works if its really airtight it will exploded from the pressure.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SurReality]
    #14997116 - 08/29/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well i find it difficult to analyze your input due to the swirling compilation of girly colors under your comment, but thanks for trying. Man. 

In conclusion i have discovered that contaminants are not as abundant as people claim they are. I have been able to validate my tek with five fully colonized jars that i have made without any pressure cooker at all. Not only does my method work faster but the consistency and the water levels throughout the substrate are much more balanced. This calls for much happier mycelium!

This is what you need to do. Mix your VERM and BRF together in a metal pot than put it in the ovem at 400 degrees for about 15-20 minutes (or until you begin to smell the cooking of brown rice). After this you add sterilized bottled water until the consistency is just right. Now fill you jars up 85% then top them off with a scoop of DRY verm. After this cover your jars with tinfoil and then put them back in the oven on a different piece of tinfoil (so the glass isnt touching the metal) and leave them in there for about 7 minutes. You will not have any contamination using this tek. After this flame sterilize your spore syringe and inoculate. Cover the 4 holes you just made in your tinfoil lids with a piece of folded over napkin and rubberband it around the top. You will have fully colonized jars in half the time it takes with a pressure cooker.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14997432 - 08/29/11 03:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well i find it difficult to analyze your input due to the swirling compilation of girly colors under your comment, but thanks for trying. Man. 

In conclusion i have discovered that contaminants are not as abundant as people claim they are. I have been able to validate my tek with five fully colonized jars that i have made without any pressure cooker at all. Not only does my method work faster but the consistency and the water levels throughout the substrate are much more balanced. This calls for much happier mycelium!

This is what you need to do. Mix your VERM and BRF together in a metal pot than put it in the ovem at 400 degrees for about 15-20 minutes (or until you begin to smell the cooking of brown rice). After this you add sterilized bottled water until the consistency is just right. Now fill you jars up 85% then top them off with a scoop of DRY verm. After this cover your jars with tinfoil and then put them back in the oven on a different piece of tinfoil (so the glass isnt touching the metal) and leave them in there for about 7 minutes. You will not have any contamination using this tek. After this flame sterilize your spore syringe and inoculate. Cover the 4 holes you just made in your tinfoil lids with a piece of folded over napkin and rubberband it around the top. You will have fully colonized jars in half the time it takes with a pressure cooker.







Exactly what i did except i didnt sterilize my brf or verm

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14997641 - 08/29/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well i find it difficult to analyze your input due to the swirling compilation of girly colors under your comment, but thanks for trying. Man. 




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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14997941 - 08/29/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

baking it at 400 degrees is not sterilizing it.  i don't want you to think that.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SexySmurff]
    #14998574 - 08/29/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I figured out the best way to seal your jars is to inoculate through tinfoil, than put a folded napkin over the tinfoil that has 4 inoculation holes in it. After the napkin is in place over the tinfoil than screw the lid on. Check it out



Smurf i cant prove it is 100% sterilization but its been working for me just fine.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14999029 - 08/29/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i don't understand why you don't just sterilize your substrate while in the jars (or am i misunderstanding, it sounds like you bake the substrate in bulk, add water, and then put the substrate in jar?)

what ever works for you, works:shrug: i've just never heard of sterilizing substrate outside of the jars. but if its working with no contamination. then more power to yea:thumbup:


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