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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: SexySmurff]
    #14965183 - 08/23/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:oldthread: but marijuana dan , cook it in an oven bag or spawnbag at least.. oven pasteurization

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Ogla]
    #14965244 - 08/23/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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losfreddy said:
:oldthread: but marijuana dan , cook it in an oven bag or spawnbag at least.. oven pasteurization





Coming from the guy who recommended sterilizing with bleach.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: dtowntoker]
    #14965309 - 08/23/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

a long time ago  yes

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: dtowntoker]
    #14965324 - 08/23/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i paid 8 bucs for a big ass pot at dollar general and i put a rack in the bottom to keep the jars up and then i weight the lid down with 2 liter bottles full of water it works great

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: nataba]
    #14965810 - 08/23/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys i am surprised of how many responses i got in such little time! Thanks! Remember my key term here was "try" haha, i used six baby jars that my dad was going to toss in the garbage anyways so why not... i like experimenting and i would like to see how my jars would come out (if any make it, even 1!!) but this is not a standardized method by any means and i have had much sucess in the past by throwing all of my substrate jars into a big metal pot with a glass lid (99% airtight) and i put a weight on the lid. This has always worked.
    My only problem with Pressure Cooking is that the internal contents of my jars always seemed to be tightly compacted by the process.. My whole entire substrate seems to solidify together during this method. I always make sure no water could enter/exit my jar with multiple layers of tinfoil so that is not the problem. I just noticed that the top layer of verm always looks darker after i pressure cook and if you flip the jars upside down, nothing falls out.. It's all pressed together!! I hate PC'ing! maybe if i learn some way to loosen the contents inside after the pressure cook?? like poke it with toothpicks or something? I just feel like this slows the mycelial growth down tremendously.

I am curious to see how these jars come out.. I am hoping for the best but expecting the worst... I need to learn things the hard way as i just cant bring myself to believe that contaminates work as quickly as everybody says that they do. We'll see

Packing the jars couldn't have gone better as the contents are super loose and airy. I put one scoop of sterilized verm on top of every cake i might add.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14966287 - 08/23/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just making a post so I can have enough to see another thread. Don't mind me :P.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Feed_your_head]
    #14970229 - 08/24/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What is the issue with forum rules? This is an old thread covering the same content.. so what? Why do people get burnt for posting their thoughts and ideas into a thread that describes exactly what i thought of doing. What does the age of the thread have to do with any of the information listed? It covers the same material. If it was during a past time that was no longer relevant and perhaps used different means of technology, than i would consider making a new thread. But 2 years later, covering my exact same question.. just does not seem old to me, and people seem to read and respond to what i post just fine. In a way i almost feel sorry for the people who aknowledge and abide by these nerdy rules. It is the internet afterall..

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14970349 - 08/24/11 10:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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marijuana dan said:
What is the issue with forum rules? This is an old thread covering the same content.. so what? Why do people get burnt for posting their thoughts and ideas into a thread that describes exactly what i thought of doing. What does the age of the thread have to do with any of the information listed? It covers the same material. If it was during a past time that was no longer relevant and perhaps used different means of technology, than i would consider making a new thread. But 2 years later, covering my exact same question.. just does not seem old to me, and people seem to read and respond to what i post just fine. In a way i almost feel sorry for the people who aknowledge and abide by these nerdy rules. It is the internet afterall..



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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: dtowntoker]
    #14981174 - 08/26/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey guys, my jars from my experiment are begging to colonize. The mycelium is very evenly distributed as the whole jar seems to be turning white at the same time. Its working much faster than my Pressure cooked jars that show no signs of growth yet. There are also no signs of cantamination. Here's a pic.


Edited by marijuana dan (08/26/11 03:01 PM)

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14981241 - 08/26/11 10:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

People say you need a PC, dan im like you i started by just wanting to experIment with growing them, ive read this thread and idk what tek you did lol. I followed the pf tek for my first grow. Flled my jars with sub material(verm,brf,water) and i put them in a crockpot with a rag on the bottom, bring to a boil and reduce so its jus bubbling barely, leave it in there for 60-120 mins take it off the heat, wait till room temp then inoculate.


Hope everything turns out great for you. I really only started growing so tha i could have my own fungus to eat <3.  Anyways my first try is coming along just dandy its not rocket science. Its all about being sterile and following te directions to the T. 


Goodluck bro!

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: kronikpuff]
    #14981360 - 08/26/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

those cakes r gonna be a bitch to get outa those jars

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: nataba]
    #14981469 - 08/26/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Not true. Ive used them before, they only cost me about 20 cents a jar.. they are 4oz (1/4 pint) and i break them open with a light tap from the ball end of a hammer,the cakes dont get harmed at all and ive never even gotten a blue spot from using this method. I've birthed many cakes this way. look


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14981656 - 08/26/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Four fluid ounces is not a half pint.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: dtowntoker]
    #14982011 - 08/26/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

oh shit your right i guess i should throw everything out and call it quits..

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14982035 - 08/26/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Idk why i said they were half pints lol (revised it), i think my mind was thinking half of a half pint.. i pick up half pints from walmart all the time, i know what they are.. My bad, Quarter pints!! Oh yeah and they are gerber baby jars lol

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14982209 - 08/26/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just making sure because when I firat started I thought I was using pint jars but I was using tall half pints :facepalm:


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: dtowntoker]
    #14986504 - 08/27/11 12:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey guys, i dont know if its because im using a regular metal pot with a clamped down lid.. but when i attempt to pressure cook.. all the water seems to get sucked up to the top layer of verm.. This makes it so i get black mold contams right along the increased moisture line top verm layer. Not all my jars have this problem as many have them have colonized just fine.. What i occasionally do is flip the jar over to get that wet verm to fall out and than replace it with a fresh layer of dry verm.. I noticed when i flip the jars over the brownrice/verm mixture does not fall out as it is quite solid. (if i push a toothpick down through it you can feel quite a bit of resistance).. Is this because i don't own a real pressure cooker? It's just something about where the moisture resides after a sterilization that the cakes do not like.. The jars that i've used with my experimental TEK (you can see what i mean if you look at page 1) are actually doing better, but that might just be a coincidence as contams can pop up at any time..

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14986705 - 08/27/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why is everyone reviving old threads? this is like the fifth or sixth one this week.


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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: virus1824]
    #14987034 - 08/27/11 01:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

because it covers the same material. thanks for your help, appreciate it.

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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
    #14987043 - 08/27/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Dan, your not using a pressure cooker? Just a normal pot And a lid?

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