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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15077901 - 09/14/11 12:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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marijuana dan said: Turns out i have to return this piece of shit FUCKING pressure cooker, i smelled burning food and i opened up the pc to see the tinfoil was black. By the grace of god my jars didn't crack so i just caught it in time.
A little rubber nut type thing that hangs inside the PC very loosely is supposed to get pushed upward and lock when the pressure is just right, it is not doing this because it is a piece of fucking shit.
Don't buy a name brand that doesnt turn up any search results when you type it into google, and you should be set.
I got a cheapo Mirro 23 qt, and just grabbed a 2nd. It's off brand or whatever..but it's solid man. I'd rather have 2 of these then one small AA personally. I have zero issues..though I've only owned for 3 months. Don't know how they will be in 2 years..but I don't foresee any issues aside from having to replace a gasket eventually.
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marijuana dan said: i can manually push the pin so it locks in place, but then i will be skipping this step
"the safety lock will move up and down, releasing dry air and a little steam, once the cooker has reached is operating pressure and temperature, the safety lock will seal and remain in the up position until the pressure is released"
The first time i operated the pressure cooker was the only time the weight on the top gradually rocked back and fourth, so i assumed it was working. The only reason it worked was because the lock was stuck in the locked position. So i unstuck it so it could go up and down again.
Should i just lock it up again and pressure cook?
Can I ask what your heatsource is? You should not have to manually push the lock.. the steam pressure building should trigger it eventually. This takes some time (dependin on heat source..it could be 30 minuts to trigger it and 60 minutes to get up to 15psi.. or much quicker if you have a better heat source, my point is, if you are using a shitty hot plate, that could be a prob).
I can't see why ANYTHING would turn black though.. did you have enough water in there? Did it boil dry or osmething? If there was no pressure created temp shouldnt reach past boiling...
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marijuana dan said: Its good to see other people arguing for a change but lets be realistic here, we are just a couple of typing avatars on a computer monitor.. I see people defending their opinions like they are defending their home from flaming arrows hahah, ease up guys!
Check this shit
I got a 5lb bag of brown rice on sale for $2.99!

I could not believe my eyes when i saw this price, this size should cost $7.99 at least. I had to doublecheck the price because i was certain that it was wrong.. The store i got it at is waldbaums, right next to this were small 16oz bags of the exact same stuff for $1.49! So if you have a waldbaums in your area, keep an eye out for this stuff going on sale!
What i like about the carolina brand is that the ingredients are just "Whole grain brown rice" and nothing else. Other brands, even the ones that say natural on it, contain other weird ingredients or will say something like "parboiled brown rice".
Thats the exact one I buy!..buy, but 10lb bags from pathmark on sale for 5.99!!! Same deal I guess lol. The fact it is not organic doesn't mean jack shit. If you wanna waste money on organic preground brown rice flour, by all means go for it, but your grow will not go any better because of it. I've been using this stuff since day one, zero contams, and the myce eats it up QUICK AS FUCK!
I prefer whole grain rice as upposed to preground because #1, you can make it more coarse #2 it's 1/4 the price, #3 IMO it's fresher, you are gridning it up seconds before it goes into your jar (but that might not be true).
Edited by buffer (09/14/11 12:15 PM)
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: buffer]
#15078077 - 09/14/11 12:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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hahah yeah who knows, i know organic is good for us human-mushrooms but mycelium seems pretty happy without it.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15079474 - 09/14/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The pot never locked and it boiled away 3-4 inches of water, if this happens then yes you should see black inside your pc,because it is bad. I use a fire stove, thanks for everything buffer i appreciate it.
Edited by marijuana dan (09/15/11 09:31 AM)
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: marijuana dan]
#15082237 - 09/15/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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To be honest i think im just going to go with steam sterilization from here on out. I am tired of the high temperature from pc s solidifying the substrate inside the jar as well as cooking away the perfect moisture level that took me a while to get to. I also dislike the vaccum effct it creates (even if i turn off the stove and walk away from the pc until the next day)
When i steam sterilize the substrate remains just as loose and airy as when i first mixed it. I just think if you have very very fine (flour like) verm, and very very very fine brf. Than you really dont need to PC it, steam works even better.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Beelzebozo]
#15082322 - 09/15/11 10:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Beelzebozo said:
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Jekkler said: When I first read the pressure cook is a must, I figured I not say anything, but you simply need to bring the medium in question to given temp to kill spores and/or source of contam in medium, sterilization is not distinct to pressure. Before I am flamed, let me then say pressure is the most effective way of penetrating heat into, and agitating the medium at a molecular, and micro level.
Do you like, walk around you house thinking "Golly gee I sure hope friction doesn't stop existing because not only will I not have enough grip to propel myself forward to walk, I will cease to be able stand thus letting gravity take it's effect on my mass having body and potentially giving me a concussion due to the fact that i will fall in a bit of a Fibonacci sequence whipping action relative to velocity with my head being the greatest number in the sequence."
And if you don't get that Then let my buddy Mitch try and explain. "My friend said to me "I think the weather's trippy." And I said "No man, it's not the weather that's trippy. Perhaps it is the way that we percieve it that is indeed trippy." Then I thought "man, I should have just said 'yeah'."
How is this an 8 page discussion by the way??? I read page 1 and 8 and was surprised to see that the topic hadn't progressed at all and maybe even went backwards in terms of skill. I also didn't check dates either from OP to now but damn! Use the search! It is your friend. Sorry for the troll but damn people
And to answer dude above me. Don't waste your money, just use what you have and on the floaty thing that rattles when you have your PC heated there should be numbers next to each hole. put the one that says 15 down onto the steam outlet. reduce heat if it rattles more than 3 or 4 time a minute
To offer 2 cents, so I have piece of mind, I stated the paragraph in question.
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Feed_your_head]
#23545045 - 08/15/16 06:59 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I realy woulx like to no the sgeps in steraliseing the cakes by steem
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Re: growing mushrooms without pressure cooker [Re: Nigel]
#23545057 - 08/15/16 07:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nigel said: I realy woulx like to no the sgeps in steraliseing the cakes by steem
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/BRF-Pf-Tek
and
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15223324/fpart/1/vc/1
scroll down to where it says steaming
I hope english is your second language?
Edited by Trusted cuItivator (08/15/16 07:06 PM)
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