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underestimated the torch (long)
    #11643069 - 12/13/09 02:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, I know I almost never post, but I felt this was one actually worth sharing, so about a year ago I purchased a set of 4, 8" to 12" p torches for an amazingly cheap price, and since then I had been letting them grow without much of a thought about harvesting them. Then this summer I went away to work at a summer camp for about 6 weeks and I left them behind for my parents to take care of, which they didn't, in fact they just left them out in the backyard where they received an almost daily torrential down pour, and 2 actually got blown out of there pots. When I got back I did my best to save them but 2 of the smaller ones just weren't having it. so I de-spined em, cut em up (but not removing the inner core or the skin), spread them out on some paper towels, and set a fan over them to dry em out, ending up with 48 grams of dried cactus which went in a ziplock and sat in my drawer up until about 3 weeks ago when I decided I would need something to help celebrate the end of finals week.

so I took my 48 grams of cactus, which I jackassedly assumed was probably closer to 30g or 35g since I didn't remove the skin and core, and started an iso alcohol extraction. I ground up the material as fine as I could which an herb grinder and soaked it in the alc for about 2 days shaking occasionally, then strained using a turkey baster and saving the separated black liquid in a separate jar, and repeating the process 4 or 5 times until the alc was running almost clear. I then let this evaporate in a large pyrex baking dish under a fan with a little help from a hair dryer since I'm impatient. the resulting tar was scraped up with a razor blade and mixed with a little bit of flour and some strawberry tums to make it more manageable, this final mescaline, tums, flour ball weighing in at a still huge 16g, was wrapped in cellophane to sit in a film canister until I was ready for it.

I've had p torch twice before, once with 25 grams of dried flesh bought from an online vender crushed, placed in capsules and swallowed resulting in a light mellow gentle happy trip that took about 2 hrs to kick in and lasted close to 12hrs, and one other time where I ingested 30g same method and felt little to nothing. but this was my first time making an extract and I made a lot of assumptions about it that I shouldn’t have, like not only the idea that potency would be lost lost due leaving the core and skin but also that some would be lost during the extraction process, not taking into account the fact that I might just have a really strong cactus.

so finals week ended, finishing one of the most stressful semesters I’v had so far, and I officially have at least a week before I even have to start thinking about anything again. perfect time to eat some cactus I thought. The original plan was to split the extract with my girlfriend, however because of the assumptions mentioned above I figured it would probably only be enough for one medium trip and barely enough for two barely noticeable trips, that and the fact that she was a little apprehensive about trying it anyway lead me to downing the whole thing myself.

Before I go into the actual trip, I feel as though I should mention a little about my previous substance use. I’m 25, always had an interest in pharmacology, psychology, and altered states from a young age. My first psychedelic experience I had when I was 14 on about 1.5g of some potent mushrooms that I later found out may have also had some LSD on them which would explain the intensity and duration of the experience, but thats another story entirely. after that I experimented with a large variety of various psychoactive substances including LSD (about 25 times), LSA (about 10 times), DXM (a lot of DXM), PCP (a lot of PCP), MDMA (about 20 times), 2-cb (2 or 3 times), salvia (3 or 4 times), cocaine (4 or 5 times), ketamine (about 10 to 15 times), a shit ton of shroom trips, the few cactus trips mentioned above, a few handfulls of Kratom, a decent cross section of various pharmaceuticals, mostly opiates and benzodiazepines, and I’m a frequent alcohol and tobacco user.

So friday afternoon, after having kept my stomach empty since the night before with the exception of an orange, I take my little ball of cactus tar break it up to pieces about the size of pepper corns to increase surface area, then I pushed them into little pill shaped clumps and swallow them all down with water over the course of about half an hour (from 4:05 to 430)  while I was consuming the tar, my girl friend was on the phone with her mom in the other room. I finished up my cactus and went to check my horoscope, my girl walks back in the room all upset cause her moms all pissed at her for this and that, and her brother who she hasn’t seen in years is know longer coming back up from florida for the holidays and this and that, I look down at my horoscope, it reads something along the lines of “your imagination is running strong today, but you may have to set aside your fantasy, as those around you will need you stable to help them with their drama’s” well in my mind it might as well have just said “Shouldn’t have eaten that cactus”. I try to ignore it, since the stuff was already in my belly, and I calm my girl down and tell her it’s gonna be ok and all that and then figuring I had about an hour and a half to two hours till I’d even feel anything, I went off to take a shower.

By the time I finished my shower 15 minutes later I was already beginning to feel weird. after another fifteen minutes I started getting that “oh shit, I’m in for a trip” feeling. and by 5:30 I was full on tripping. Within an hour! This started to worry me a little and I began to get a little anxious so I decide to take a little walk around the block to try and get my head straight. when I get back to the apartment I’m staying at I sat down and tried to relax but by this point there was so much going on and it was coming on so fast that I just couldn’t sit still, my heart was racing, and so were my thoughts. My body felt like jello, visual distortions and shifting breathing patterns and textures were starting to overwhelm me. My GF,  my roommate, and my friend who were all hanging out smoking kept telling me I just had to calm down and relax and everything was fine, but this was information I already knew and I just couldn’t do it, I had so much energy going through my body that I just didn’t know what to do with myself. I kept standing back up and pacing. I still felt anxious and claustrophobic and I was beginning to feel slightly nauseous, so I went for another walk, smoked a cigarette, and came back even higher than before and feeling extremely chaotic. At this point I was extremely nauseous, the room was almost spinning, and my vision was almost obscured by the trails of objects blending into each other around me whenever I turned my head, walls were melting, everyones faces were melting, I was melting, trying to walk felt like walking on a waterbed with violently shaking legs, and everyones voices sounded like distant echoes.

ZIt felt like it had been hours since I had eaten the extract so I checked the time and was horrified to see that it was only about 6:00! Now I was worried, and a flow of paranoid thoughts started flowing into my altered brain. “why did it kick in so fast?” “what if I’ve got some kind of a super potent cactus, and I just ingested over 1000 mg or something?”  “what if I lose control of my body?” which I already felt like was starting to happen. The fear and worry made me feel even more sick, and with the thought that I’d eaten too much on my mind I figured why put it off anymore, and went to the bathroom to try and empty my stomach, but as sick as I felt all I could do was dry heave. I was terrified but I did my best to stay calm, I could hardly see straight, my legs were shaking violently, I was twitchy, I felt like I was skipping seconds of time here and there, and I still couldn’t sit still. I knew it wasn’t going to stop, how ever much I had in my system was already in there and not coming out, and somehow I had to just let it flow and ride it out, but I was just too tense and overwhelmed, I just couldn’t calm down.

I remembered that my friend who was hanging out there said he had some .5 clonazapam, so I explained how I was feeling and asked if I could buy one off him to try and calm down, but he told me he only had one left and was really trying to hold on to it. disappointed and slightly freaking out, I decided to go back outside and try to walk my anxiety off and keep my brain occupied, but to no avail, and although while I didn’t feel as cooped up and trapped outside, it was cold as hell out and I knew I couldn’t stay out there all night. I came back in feeling even worse than when I left, and my friends made it fairly clear that they were getting annoyed with me freaking out and walking in and out constantly, not to mention they were smoking large amounts of pot that was wafting out the door every time I left making them paranoid.

I went to try and lay down on the floor in my roommates room and writhed around tossing and turning in what now looked and felt like a chaotic psychedelic soup surrounding me on all sides consuming my body which I couldn’t tell where it started and where it ended, and it still felt like it was getting stronger. I tried to throw up again but still was only able to dry heave. I looked at the clock, (which took a minute to focus on and decipher which digital lines actually made up the numbers and which ones were just clones of the other lines) it wasn’t even 7 yet. I couldn’t take it, I had to do something. I went back out and almost begged my friend to give me his klonopin and evened offered more than double what it was worth, reluctantly he agreed seeing the state I was in. The 2 minutes I waited while he dug through his backpack to find it felt like an hour and the knowledge that my sense of time was extremely distorted was the only thing that kept me from screaming at him to please hurry up. finally he placed the pill in my hand and I instantly threw it in my mouth and chewed it up. I knew that even though k’pins kick in fast it would still feel like an eternity to me, but luckily my gf wanted to go get food at chic filet and a car ride would be the perfect thing for me.

By this point my nausea had subsided and but I was still extremely nervous and disoriented, walking out to the car I mentioned to my girl that I didn’t feel like I could stay there anymore, everybody seemed so annoyed with me and they were having more people come over and I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to control myself, but she reminded me that we had no where else we could go at the moment, hanging out outside wasn’t an option, and we could probably just hang out in the back room till I felt better. By the time we got to the car I could feel the benzo started to kick in and I began to calm down a little bit, I knew it wouldn’t be enough to kill the trip but it was just enough to calm me to the point that I could accept the things that were happening around me and to me.

while getting in the passenger seat I noticed that every tree trunk outside was covered in faces all with moving lips eyes and noses, they seemed to be trying to say something to me in a language I couldn’t understand, the grass looked like it was growing and swaying, and the tree branches appeared to be reaching down at us. we started driving and it feels like the car is sliding side to side, The street lights all looked warped and bent, all the lights themselves were extra bright stars with long trails coming off of them and their colors were surrounding me. My head felt like it was the size of a beach ball and my hands looked to be the size of baby hands except my fingers were stretching and bending. By the time we got to chic filet I was reasonably calmed down, the benzo had slowed my heart rate to a point where I could start letting go, unfortunately chic fillet had a line wrapped around the building that we just didn’t feel like waiting in, so back to the apartment we went.

walking back up to the door I noticed grain on the wood planks on the porch deck were flowing like rivers and the planks themselves were breathing heavily, but only in certain parts making it look like waves of wood, which I thought was amazing. I was hesitant to walk back inside since I seemed to be ticking everyone off but knowing I had nowhere else to go, I went back in anyway. Upon walking in the door I started walking toward the back room, but I was stopped by one of my friends who stood up to give me a hug and ask me if I was all right, that’s about the point that I realized I was ok. I mean I still felt extremely chaotic and I couldn’t tell where my body started or ended and my vision was still almost obscured by psychedelic soup, but it no longer mattered, what was happening was happening and I didn’t care, I had finally accepted it and was now floating down the river. I no longer felt trapped, I felt liberated. waves of euphoria started pouring over me.

I still felt like I wasn’t in the right state to be around people yet though and their other guests had arrived so I went back to the bedroom with my girl, one of my friends suggested I draw so she brought me back some paper and pencils and I started drawing while she and watched doctor who on her laptop. As I laid on the bed I stared at the blank paper for a minute and all kinds of neon lines and shapes started forming on the page, so I got the idea to just trace them as they appeared as quickly as possible, which resulted in these scrambled scribblings with all kinds of faces, shapes, mushrooms, and swirly things in them, looking at them now they look as though a schizophrenic 6 year old drew them but at the time they were absolutely beautiful.

I had been drinking a lot of water so at some point I got up to take a leak, which was a surprisingly difficult task since the toilet just wouldn’t sit still and looked half melted, not to mention my dick looked deformed and there were about four streams of urine coming from directions and places I couldn’t see, and the swirling shadows and bubbles in the toilet were distracting to say the least. I went several more times throughout the night and every time was about the same, sometimes I actually had to hold myself up against the wall to keep myself from falling in.

When I came back from the bathroom I picked up the glass of water I had been drinking and took a sip, suddenly I noticed something swimming around it there, I sat there staring into my cup and there was this little swirling flashing neon blob in there that appeared to be getting bigger and growing tentacles, so there was this squid just sitting there swimming around in my cup of water, and I thought that was the coolest thing ever, I was excited, laughing,  and I felt incredible.

At this point it was about 745 and my trip was still running strong, my girl was still hungry so we decided to head back to chic fillet figuring the line had probably thinned out by now, and I was as excited as a dog about going for a ride again. so we went and got food for her, and made a stop at the liquor store to get a yeungling for me and a bottle of cheap strawberry champagne for her. when we got back I drew a little bit more and drank my beer, which was probably the tastiest beer I’ve ever had. I was completely ecstatic, I laid on the bed for a while writhing around in tingling pleasure watching the walls and ceiling melt and breathe, and the wrinkles on my pants crawling around my legs. Every surface I looked at was covered in bright shimmering patterns. I felt my body falling apart, evaporating, and blending with the things around me, i was literally becoming part of my surroundings, I felt as though I was no longer just myself but I was everything I was experiencing. This went on for hours, and I never wanted it to end.

I eventually went back out to the living room to hang out with everyone and tell them of my experiences. Most of them were shocked enough that my little experiment even worked much less gave me the trip I was having. For the rest of the night I wrapped myself up in a blanket and sat on the floor smoking cigarettes. everything was still moving and shifting and growing and shimmering and I couldn’t help but smile at everything. It didn’t even start coming down until like 1 in the morning and I was still mildly tripping when I went to sleep at 530 in the morning. I woke up at about noon the next day with an amazingly euphoric after glow that lasted all the way through the evening.

This was with out a doubt the longest, strongest and most visual trip I’ve ever had on any substance ever. I only wish that I’d known how much I had taken or how strong of a trip I was in for beforehand so I wasn’t as anxious and scared during the come up, because that was the worst thing, just not knowing where it was going or if I had too much really terrified me. I will definitely be trying this again in the future probably at the same dosage, and this time I’ll be ready for it. If your planning to do the same thing as me, just keep in mind how much potency can vary and start small when working with a new material from an unfamiliar source. Its better to not trip at all then trip too hard and jump out of a window or something. Even though it worked out in the end, I should have split that ammount with my girlfriend and then taken the huge dose next time with the other two cacti I got growing. Whatever you do, be safe and responsible, and happy tripping. Peace.


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: timekiller]
    #11647214 - 12/14/09 06:29 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That was an awesome report man! Good stuff, glad to read things all turned out good in the end.

Look forward to reading more from you!

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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: indica]
    #11677863 - 12/18/09 09:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

that was absolutely amazing man:eek:


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: mr.mushroom420]
    #11686711 - 12/20/09 02:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yeah wow

that's the typical phenethylamine come up for me

very rough, scatterbrained and scary

then something just clicks and everything is right as rain. it really helps to be around people you like. sometimes i don't want people to know i'm tripping so having to keep all the fear to yourself makes it even harder to bear at times, but it's almost always worth it. i think having a home base to let go helps too. imagine you were stranded outside and alone the whoooole time? that's happened to me before.

you did a good job writing that up.

also sounds like you've got some cool friends. give thanks and praise.


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: today mylove]
    #11686818 - 12/20/09 02:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Ha ha Thanks, yeah that's basically what happened, although I'm not sure if I would've gotten the "click" if it wasn't for the benzo. Well I got two cacti left and I'm planning on letting them grow for another year or so, but one of them isn't doing so well and I might get impatient so we'll see.


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: timekiller]
    #11686885 - 12/20/09 02:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oh I forgot to ask, what type of alcohol did you use for the extraction?


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: today mylove]
    #11688838 - 12/20/09 08:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

91% isopropyl alcohol. it was either that or everclear so I chose the cheaper of the two.


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Re: underestimated the torch (long) [Re: timekiller]
    #11719270 - 12/26/09 12:05 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I trip like that every time I chew a foot of Bridgesii.


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