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m00nshine
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How do you drain your wbs?
#11718131 - 12/25/09 07:15 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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I prepared some seed today and found that it took extremely long to drain. I let it sit for about 3 or 4 hours and it was still too wet. I ended up taking a few paper towels and running it through the seed in order to dry it. Do you think it took so long because of my colander? At first it seemed that a lot of moisture was escaping from the seed but then later on it felt like it was just stuck there on the seed.
How long do you guys drain your seed before you PC it? Do you leave it in a colander to air dry?
This bird seed is a pain in the ass
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myco_mikey_mo
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: m00nshine]
#11718164 - 12/25/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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i use rye and i let it drain maybe ten to twenty minutes max. i have never liked WBS. could never get the water content right, or something
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m00nshine
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myco_mikey_mo said: i use rye and i let it drain maybe ten to twenty minutes max. i have never liked WBS. could never get the water content right, or something
How do you prepare your rye?
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joska87
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myco_mikey_mo said: i use rye and i let it drain maybe ten to twenty minutes max. i have never liked WBS. could never get the water content right, or something
ya ive only used rye..and have had good results from it...but afoaf uses WBS and he has the same problem, and he found spreading it out on paper towels for an hour really helps..
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: m00nshine]
#11718189 - 12/25/09 07:35 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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m00nshine said:
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myco_mikey_mo said: i use rye and i let it drain maybe ten to twenty minutes max. i have never liked WBS. could never get the water content right, or something
How do you prepare your rye?
soak 24 hours rinse well simmer 45 min rinse well drain for 45min load jars
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Shr00mZ
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: joska87]
#11718191 - 12/25/09 07:36 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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strainer mix it up after a bit of time.
truthfully you dont need to simmer WBS, its a waste of time.
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: Shr00mZ]
#11718200 - 12/25/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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Shr00mZ said:
truthfully you dont need to simmer WBS, its a waste of time.
???so how do you hydrate the grain???
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m00nshine
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: joska87]
#11718220 - 12/25/09 07:46 PM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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I didn't simmer mine either. A lot of people here claim to skip that step and have success. I just rinsed, soaked, rinsed, and drained. It's PCing now.
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m00nshine
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: m00nshine]
#11720492 - 12/26/09 08:53 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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Any other thoughts? Looks like I can lay out my seed on some paper towels or towel it dry. Just wondering what other cultivators do to dry their seed.
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: m00nshine]
#11720575 - 12/26/09 09:22 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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Using a wooden spoon to toss it every 5 minutes. Total of 25 minutes.
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Citizen13
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Quote:
Breakfast Crew said:

Using a wooden spoon to toss it every 5 minutes. Total of 25 minutes.
thats awesome. i want one of those!
i currently use a window screen. same idea but they break after continuous use and i'm pretty sure my neighbors are starting to notice that not only are all mine gone but some of theirs are as well..
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Shr00mZ
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: joska87]
#11720735 - 12/26/09 10:16 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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joska87 said:
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Shr00mZ said:
truthfully you dont need to simmer WBS, its a waste of time.
???so how do you hydrate the grain???
obvouisly the hydration process occurs when you let the grain soak for 24 hours. Simmering the grain is a pain in the ass and it hurts your hands if you touch it. I wish I would have never read anywhere you had to simmer it, I pray that a very large person beats the shit out of who ever came up with that method.
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myco_mikey_mo
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: Citizen13]
#11720737 - 12/26/09 10:17 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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soak 36-48 hours rinse well simmer 45 min rinse well drain for 20min load jars add gypsum PC for 90 min
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partial hydration occurs at the soak. mainly the soak is to germinate the endospores so they can be more easily killed during the PC time. the simmer actually allows the grain to absorb as much water as possible, thats why when you simmer, the grain almost doubles in size.
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Shr00mZ
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24 hours soak Drain out water, you soaked in. Fill up the pot again, dump it in a strainer done.
I promise the same results.
well the addition of gypsum could be good. I havent tried it, but cant see why it would be benefical though.
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myco_mikey_mo
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: Shr00mZ]
#11720774 - 12/26/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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helps keep individual kernals, well....individual. jars colonize about 2-3 days faster in my opinion. did multiple side by side tests. got same results everytime
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: Shr00mZ]
#11720780 - 12/26/09 10:26 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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place 350 or 450 mL milo seed in jar (depending on if your make transfere jars or jars you'll inject spores into) fill with water wait till next day drain water out and pc.
place 300 mL millet seed in jar (i don't transfere to millet) fill with water wait till next day drain and pc.
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Shr00mZ
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gypsum is a binder, meaning it would make it harder to get the WBS out of the jar. I dont know about you but I have a hard enough time without using gypsum. But its also a reason why it may colonize faster. I have plenty of time, ill waste my gypsum on my substrates. 
thanks for a different idea of production.
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: Shr00mZ]
#11720918 - 12/26/09 11:13 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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I found that if you take steaming hot grain and lay it out on a window screen over a large container ( i use one of my mono tubs i ain usin) wbs dries in about 20 mins. gotta make sure them seeds are hot though..they'll steam dry quick...the heat and the surface area really do it.
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Re: How do you drain your wbs? [Re: aleoaxis6]
#11720928 - 12/26/09 11:17 AM (15 years, 25 days ago) |
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so if you just do the soak and no simmer, get a big ass pot, bring water to boil, dump in your seed, let it heat up to almost boiling again, dump into coliander, then spread out onto your screen
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