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Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon??
#11712650 - 12/24/09 03:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If so, how soon and how will this be done? How do you think it would change things on this planet?
There has been such an increase of UFO sightings / videos that just makes be think that something might happen soon.
Such an interesting topic
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#11712662 - 12/24/09 03:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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No.
Considering the vastness of space, it's quite likely there is other life out there.
Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11712670 - 12/24/09 03:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Entropymancer said:
Considering the vastness of space, it's quite likely there is other life out there.
Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
my thoughts exactly
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11712685 - 12/24/09 03:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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danlennon3 said:
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Entropymancer said:
Considering the vastness of space, it's quite likely there is other life out there.
Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
my thoughts exactly
So with all this vastness you do not believe there might be civilizations out there with the technology to be able to travel to this part of the universe? I say bullshit.
Edited by DeadHearts (12/24/09 03:23 PM)
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712694 - 12/24/09 03:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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lets see some of these ufo video;s u speak of...
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: P-O]
#11712704 - 12/24/09 03:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Come on man they are everywhere. But since you are to lazy to look ill find some for ya buddy.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts] 1
#11712709 - 12/24/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said:
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danlennon3 said:
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Entropymancer said:
Considering the vastness of space, it's quite likely there is other life out there.
Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
my thoughts exactly
So with all this vastness you do not believe there might be civilizations out there with the technology to be able to travel to this part of the universe? I say bullshit.
but why? why would they want to travel so far? How would they know to come here? and why would they want to come here?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712711 - 12/24/09 03:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: There has been such an increase of UFO sightings / videos
Theres also been an increase in the availability of home video and cameras !
I don't think UFO reports have increased. Remember the "foo fighters" of World War 2 - that what they called UFO's back then...
I'd love to see disclosure but unfortunately I doubt it will happen in the small window of time that shall be my life.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11712725 - 12/24/09 03:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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danlennon3 said: and why would they want to come here?
That question is irrelevant.
The question is why are millions of people all over the planet reporting seeing these objects?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712742 - 12/24/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said:
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danlennon3 said: and why would they want to come here?
That question is irrelevant.
The question is why are millions of people all over the planet reporting seeing these objects?
A. they are seeing things
B. They are made by humans
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712744 - 12/24/09 03:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11712757 - 12/24/09 03:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not sure why it posted twice. weird.
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danlennon3 said:
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nice1 said:
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danlennon3 said: and why would they want to come here?
That question is irrelevant.
The question is why are millions of people all over the planet reporting seeing these objects?
A. they are seeing things
B. They are made by humans
You are very closed minded.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712766 - 12/24/09 03:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also this topic is not about weather UFO's are real or not.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11712780 - 12/24/09 03:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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These children lied to trick you.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712787 - 12/24/09 03:37 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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look into the disclosure project....
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712794 - 12/24/09 03:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Not sure why it posted twice. weird.
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danlennon3 said:
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nice1 said:
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danlennon3 said: and why would they want to come here?
That question is irrelevant.
The question is why are millions of people all over the planet reporting seeing these objects?
A. they are seeing things
B. They are made by humans
You are very closed minded.
I want to believe!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712810 - 12/24/09 03:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said:
These children lied to trick you.
you cant trust video like that though. there are plenty of videos that are actually real.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712816 - 12/24/09 03:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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THere will be a disclosure when the buddies of the guys running the government figure out how to control it and make a fortune off it, while the rest of the average peons pay for it.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712838 - 12/24/09 03:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why can I not trust that video ?
I don't see how a bunch of school kids in Africa would just make that up.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712848 - 12/24/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because people need to see solid footage. thats just the way it is. I can not find many of the videos I just seen a few weeks ago WTF! There were some crazy night vision videos I came across that were incredible.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712884 - 12/24/09 03:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712895 - 12/24/09 03:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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hey look its us!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11712898 - 12/24/09 03:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I do not see how this can be fake. And if it is man made then someone is hiding very advanced technology from us.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712906 - 12/24/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I really do not know why its posting twice. God damn it!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11712909 - 12/24/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Entropymancer said: Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
you say this based on what? your earth physics?
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712912 - 12/24/09 04:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: And if it is man made then someone is hiding very advanced technology from us.
is this so hard to believe?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11712921 - 12/24/09 04:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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danlennon3 said:
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DeadHearts said: And if it is man made then someone is hiding very advanced technology from us.
is this so hard to believe?
No its not. But I do not think its the case. And if it is I believe we did not come up with it. These sightings have been going on for so so long.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712937 - 12/24/09 04:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I hope there is some disclosure before my time on earth is over- UFO's are one of the most intriguing mysteries to me.. but from what I understand they have been visiting the earth since at least the 60's and possibly even back to the ancient times- but im not sure how valid that is? I think I may have heard of ufo writings that date back to the egyptian times but im not sure of this...
What are the UFO's waiting for?
I personally never saw a ufo before this year and now i am seeing them outside of my house almost every night, last night i saw 3 of them... i don't have a video camera so i can't prove it but im probably gonna have someone from a ufo organization investigate my ufo and figure out what these weird lights are....
i know for fact they're not anything official because they are in the sky throughout the AM hours, they make no noise, have no official (blinking) lights, and the way they fly around makes no fucking sense- they fly in a way that reminds me of jellyfish, very weird movements and they'll sometimes start flying in circles or going from really high to low, or even weirder shit like zig-zagging in the sky.... im actually kind of paranoid about these things because im probably the only person on my block that notices them and i wouldn't be suprised if these things can detect people's vibes or something...
they're lights are also very weird- shine very bright red/yellow/white colors... they're ether too small or too high in the sky for me to make out their exact shape and it always seems to be changing 
I think the Government's lack of involvement in UFO investigations is pathetic.... they could at least analyze these crafts with radar and be more open with the people... I don't think they want to admit we aren't on top of the food chain
It's possible that the recent surge in UFO sightings are because they are preparing to do something ......
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11712949 - 12/24/09 04:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ya like I said "foo fighters" So in world war 2 we were flying anti-gravity space craft around ? I don't think so.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo_fighter
And guess what - they are not just on Earth either...
UFO's on the moon
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713004 - 12/24/09 04:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry if this posts twice again But this video is fucking crazy.
<object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="/v/7fwHFqTpO_c&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object>
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713011 - 12/24/09 04:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude, don't use the youtube embed code. All you do is post the URL ! Shroomery automatically does the rest!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFO_sightings
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713031 - 12/24/09 04:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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are my videos posting?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713053 - 12/24/09 04:22 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm seeing the same as you. Loads of junk code with 2 videos stuck in between.
Just copy the link not the embed code.
That last one could just be a helicopter
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713067 - 12/24/09 04:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Also this topic is not about weather UFO's are real or not.
Isn't the issue of whether or not "UFOs are real" critical to answering the question of whether there will be a disclosure about them in the near future?
Also, it would be asinine to deny that they're real. The point is that they are unidentified. If you wanted us all to answer the question given the postulate that some of these unidentified objects are of extraterrestrial construction, you should have said so in the original post. That drastically changes the direction of discussion, don'tcha think?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#11713076 - 12/24/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Envix said:
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Entropymancer said: Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
you say this based on what? your earth physics?
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This. Just because the Native Americans couldn't cross the Atlantic with their canoes doesn't mean that the Atlantic is uncrossable.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11713093 - 12/24/09 04:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a weird one so bare with me. But I always had a theory that we are the Aliens , But its us many many many years from now when we figure out time travel.And what people report as UFO's are actually us traveling through time. Our military thousands of years or whatever from now. Think about it.................
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
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Entropymancer said: Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
you say this based on what? your earth physics?
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This. Just because the Native Americans couldn't cross the Atlantic with their canoes doesn't mean that the Atlantic is uncrossable.
Even if we were to suppose that a technology could be created to exceed the speed of light making such travel feasible, how would they know to come here? Suppose that they're just around the corner in galactic terms, say 10000 light years away. It's still going to be several thousand years before they get an inkling that there's intelligent life here on earth, and that's if they're really quick on the uptake.
The only extraterrestrial visitor scenario that seems even vaguely plausible (and I use the term very very loosely) is if they possess technology to drastically exceed the speed of light, and they were the ones who deposited the building blocks of life here 4 billion years ago.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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We already know its possible to get across space. But aliens wouldn't know to come directly to Earth and why would they do it anyway? There are billions of stars to choose from to travel to and the journeys would take many years even at close to light speed. The ships would probably be enormous compared to most UFO sightings and probably wouldn't fly effectively in the earth's atmosphere. Not to mention time dilation would totally fuck with any sort of rendezvous with their home planet. How would they effectively complete any sort of mission involving us? Of course I really don't know anything, but it just doesn't seem practical for aliens to be here on earth.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11713133 - 12/24/09 04:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The way I see it, technology increases exponentially and the Universe is about 13 billion years old, long enough for at least one extraterrestrial civilization to achieve the Technological Singularity and become like Gods. What's interesting is to ask what motivation these beings would have for coming to Earth... perhaps we're nearing a Singularity of our own and they're trying to influence where we land when the chips fall?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11713134 - 12/24/09 04:41 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: Also this topic is not about weather UFO's are real or not.
Isn't the issue of whether or not "UFOs are real" critical to answering the question of whether there will be a disclosure about them in the near future?
Also, it would be asinine to deny that they're real. The point is that they are unidentified. If you wanted us all to answer the question given the postulate that some of these unidentified objects are of extraterrestrial construction, you should have said so in the original post. That drastically changes the direction of discussion, don'tcha think?
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Entropymancer said: Likewise considering the vastness of space, we can be pretty certain that we'll never encounter it.
you say this based on what? your earth physics?
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
This. Just because the Native Americans couldn't cross the Atlantic with their canoes doesn't mean that the Atlantic is uncrossable.
Even if we were to suppose that a technology could be created to exceed the speed of light making such travel feasible, how would they know to come here? Suppose that they're just around the corner in galactic terms, say 10000 light years away. It's still going to be several thousand years before they get an inkling that there's intelligent life here on earth, and that's if they're really quick on the uptake.
The only extraterrestrial visitor scenario that seems even vaguely plausible (and I use the term very very loosely) is if they possess technology to drastically exceed the speed of light, and they were the ones who deposited the building blocks of life here 4 billion years ago.
yes you are right you got me. does not change the fact that the views you have on the topic are silly. In my opinion.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713146 - 12/24/09 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Likewise brah
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11713164 - 12/24/09 04:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Back at cha cheif
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11713165 - 12/24/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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All those things about the speed of light, time dilation etc are based on our current understanding which is also assuming that our understanding will never change.
In a thousand years time we may realize that the speed of light is not even relevant to space travel.
Try telling a guy in a log canoe 10,000 years ago that one day he will be able to fly around the world in a jet.
Personally I think all these questions are irrelevant. We are being presented with a world wide phenomena of UFOs. People can keep saying they shouldn't exist or be able to get here blah blah as much as they like but its not going to make them go away.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713169 - 12/24/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said: All those things about the speed of light, time dilation etc are based on our current understanding which is also assuming that our understanding will never change.
Exactly.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713175 - 12/24/09 04:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Try telling a guy in a log canoe 10,000 years ago that one day he will be able to fly around the world in a jet.
They didn't change the laws of physics to invent the airplane.
Sure we will learn more and our perspectives will change, but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong. Its just incomplete and probably partially wrong.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713183 - 12/24/09 04:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Right, and technology that was once thought to be impossible is now used every day.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713189 - 12/24/09 04:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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They will very soon. I have determined this using my crystals and my psychic abilities. Also, my Coven has made a few key spells in this area. Plus, the neighbor's dog assures me it will be so.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713191 - 12/24/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah they did - have you asked the guy on the canoe how he thinks physics works 
You seem to forget its just a theory - even Einstein himself said the theory was incomplete.
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but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.
So for aliens to visit Earth our laws of physics have to be completly wrong. 
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Personally I think all these questions are irrelevant. We are being presented with a world wide phenomena of UFOs. People can keep saying they shouldn't exist or be able to get here blah blah as much as they like but its not going to make them go away.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713206 - 12/24/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Over time, all manner of amazing things have been caught on film and video. Things that were million to one shots, caught and preserved forever, in focus and well lit. All without even being really prepared for.
Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.
So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?
Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?
Oh, and as a side note, lets not forget that they were working on some of the most advanced stealth technology in use today back in the early 70's, only to openly admit to the public that we had such capabilities in the 90's.
So what do you think the government has been doing in the nearly two decades since then?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713210 - 12/24/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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i never said it was impossible for aliens to be here. i said it was improbable and impractical
i also never said UFO's didn't exist, i said it doesn't make any sense that they would be aliens.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713224 - 12/24/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.
Explain what you mean by this then?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713228 - 12/24/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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You seem to forget its just a theory - even Einstein himself said the theory was incomplete.
incomplete yes, but that doesn't mean its just some crazy idea. a theory is something thats been tested over and over and over and over again by many different people with very accurate results
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713236 - 12/24/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.
Explain what you mean by this then?
i was replying to you saying we might discover how to travel faster than the speed of light
reread my first post. in fact i said that according to some people's current understanding of physics that interstellar travel IS POSSIBLE. Thats the FIRST thing I said.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713251 - 12/24/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never said that.
Reread the thread please.
What I actually said was this...
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In a thousand years time we may realize that the speed of light is not even relevant to space travel.
very different to what you thought I said.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713264 - 12/24/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I never said that.
Reread the thread please.
Someone said it. but i have no desire to reread the thread, you seemingly haven't read it either. i think you are just looking for people to argue with. this one's going on hide.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713266 - 12/24/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Only if the "aliens" want to announce themselves to us.
If "aliens" have in fact visited, why not just land and say hello?
If an intelligent life form can manange intergalactic travel, I think avoiding a Sony video recorder would be pretty easy.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713279 - 12/24/09 05:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Would you stop editing out your mistakes please! LOL I should of quoted you. 
You claimed I said we would learn to go faster than the speed of light and then edited out when you realised you were wrong.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
#11713298 - 12/24/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not argueing - I'm explaining why you are wrong but seems you are twisting your opinion every time I show you to make out that you are not - even going as far as to delete your mistakes. Tut tut.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Charles]
#11713371 - 12/24/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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This thread got out of hand. There will always be believers and none believers. Until the average person experiences something they can not explain the will always question someone who does or try and find the most rational possibility which is fine. But you can not tell me that all these videos poping up and worldwide sightings are just "balloons" or "helicopters" and things like that.
"So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?"
Not all the video of these objects are blurry. The videos from the space shuttles are particularly compelling. Hundreds of former officials claim they have seen these objects and are now coming fourth and want the truth from the government. Something is going on and I wish people would just question it instead of writing it off as nothing.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713404 - 12/24/09 05:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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not 100% on what i believe on this subject to be honest, but just to throw it out there, anyone seen this documentary?
its the history channel one called 'ancient aliens', is all that chariots of the gods stuff (erich von daeniken), claiming that aliens visited earth ages ago and influenced the evolution of civilization...
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713411 - 12/24/09 05:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Given that the topic being talked about is entirely speculative, I can't see how any of you actually believe that it's worth feigning any actual relevant knowledge which can bring anyone on the shroomery closer to the truth regarding aliens and UFO's.
It's a crazy concept which we have no method to explain the occurrence of in reality, as can be said for just about every other mysterious event which cannot / has not actually been recorded and studied. I'm not hating on speculation, just all the hating on each other in this thread caused by the speculation.
My view on the subject: If UFO's were related to actual aliens, that would be super cool. But, no video will ever stand as complete evidence to the existence of said aliens. That said, I'll be waiting hopefully for a first hand encounter, which I promise to promptly put up on youtube
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: klodeo]
#11713418 - 12/24/09 05:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have seen this and the end part is really crazy to think about. The structures were cut so precisely there is now way they could have done it back then. I think they said they predate the Egyption pyramids.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713434 - 12/24/09 05:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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We speculate and talk about this topic because it is interesting and people want to know whats out there. And people are seeing things and drawing have been made that date back thousands of years. This topic continues to be brought time and time again because if ETS are truely visiting us then it would change everything. My opinion.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713440 - 12/24/09 05:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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dunno if i believe that they were built by aliens to be completely honest, maybe tho. think it might be more likely that there have been loads of extremely advanced civilizations in the past and that history as we know it is rubbish... never know though, could be aliens. maybe both
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: klodeo]
#11713604 - 12/24/09 06:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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either way that show was awsome to watch.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Charles]
#11713876 - 12/24/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Charles said: Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.
So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?
Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?
i think ufo's are more often than not high up in the air- and just an example of comparison, your average person probably has at best a camera phone or a small camera with them- i don't think i could ever get a good picture of an airplane with my cell phone, let alone a regular camera that doesn't have amazing zoom... only if something flew very close to me i would be able to film it in such a way that you can see it clearly....
you also might find this footage from the Mexican military interesting, this footage is from their radar when something was flying next to it...
I also believe for most people UFO's can be a seeing is believing thing.... it's easy to deny the thousands of sightings that go on through out the world every year but once you see one for yourself i don't think you can go back... and you usually know its a legit ufo when it starts doing out of the world things that makes no sense/
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#11713914 - 12/24/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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skatealex2 said:
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Charles said: Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.
So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?
Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?
i think ufo's are more often than not high up in the air- and just an example of comparison, your average person probably has at best a camera phone or a small camera with them- i don't think i could ever get a good picture of an airplane with my cell phone, let alone a regular camera that doesn't have amazing zoom... only if something flew very close to me i would be able to film it in such a way that you can see it clearly....
you also might find this footage from the Mexican military interesting, this footage is from their radar when something was flying next to it...
I also believe for most people UFO's can be a seeing is believing thing.... it's easy to deny the thousands of sightings that go on through out the world every year but once you see one for yourself i don't think you can go back... and you usually know its a legit ufo when it starts doing out of the world things that makes no sense/
It can not be denied brother.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714023 - 12/24/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: If so, how soon and how will this be done? How do you think it would change things on this planet?
There has been such an increase of UFO sightings / videos that just makes be think that something might happen soon.
Such an interesting topic 
Disclosure is definitely upon us. It will probably occur within the next 5 years or so. All the evidence I've reviewed has me believing that our reign on planet Earth is almost up. I don't think there's going to be a war but I believe we will probably have the planet taken from us. Meanwhile the only thing we'll be able to do in response is sit back and watch it happen. Basically the entities we're dealing with are lightyears ahead of us in technology. They're so advanced that they can do whatever they want and we can't do a thing to stop them.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Metatronix]
#11714091 - 12/24/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are some pretty clear videos/photos out there. All possible hoaxes, of course, but they make you think "what if..."
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/view/topphotos.htm
More compelling are the cases of mass sightings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave
13,500 estimated sightings, as well as tracked on radar by military jets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_lights
Witnessed by hundreds, if not thousands of people (including the governor) all across Arizona.
The problem is no one really takes this stuff seriously, and the government sure won't hold any open investigations.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
#11714226 - 12/24/09 09:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714267 - 12/24/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
Because if you think about human history. You see how far we have come since the first "people" came about. Our histroy has been but a speck of time compared to the whole universe or even our own planet. It is so unfathomable for me to believe that there could be no civilizations out there (even in out own galaxy) that are far far more advanced than us.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714315 - 12/24/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
Did somebody blow up Alpha Centauri? Last time I checked it was less than 5 light years away.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11714335 - 12/24/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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god actually shit all over that whole star and thus blocking out the light
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714343 - 12/24/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: How would anyone know we're here?
The same way astronomers discover new planets from here on Earth. If an advanced civilization possessed interstellar travel capabilities then it probably wouldn't take them long at all to find us. They wouldn't be restricted to a single vantage point and would be able to go anywhere in the Universe to systematically scope out new planets.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714505 - 12/24/09 10:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The alien beings visiting this planet at this time are all under what is called the "Rule of Non-Interference" with 'undeveloped' civilizations. An undeveloped civilization being one, which has not undergone it's transformation yet into a galactic society. i.e - Left their own solar system under their own power and discovered the galactic society on their own... or spiritually transcended on a global level into it. The "Global Society" simply being: The awareness of, and coexistence with other sentient intelligent beings and lifeforms in other parts of the Universe. The rule of non-interference is rule number 1 when dealing with a "sleeping" society. They are not allowed to interfere directly with our reality. This caused some problems in the past, when they would reveal themselves, and the lessons they brought us, and instead we worshiped them like gods, which was not what they wanted. And there were other incidents with some dominant races causing some other issues with enslavement of lesser evolved humanoids, so protocols for interaction had to be put in place you see. We have to learn our lessons ourselves.
All/most? civilizations recorded throughout the Universe all follow a distinct pattern of evolution. The level we are at now is the turning point for civilizations who have followed our same or similar path before. Our technology surpasses our understanding of the spiritual implications or knowledge backing it, (cloning, nuclear weapons, etc) we have destructive habits without the understanding of the full circle, and we are on a totally self-destructive path. At the same time, there is a vast new spectrum of knowledge becoming available, and connecting people in ways like never before. There is an awakening occurring on the brink of destruction. It is at this point, that civilizations usually do one of the following:
1. Collapse into war;anarchy;chaos;pollution;famine whatever and we destroy ourselves and our ability to survive on the planet. 2. Evolve into higher levels of understanding and living in harmony with ourselves and each other.
There is really not much wiggle room between the two. You either go with the flow, evolve and change to suit your environment, or it kills you, or in this case we kill ourselves. Either way, civilization as we have built it cannot last for long, it is simply not sustainable. New methods must be brought to the table, new ways of creating beneficial organic technology. New ways of restoring the planet, and each other.
This is an extremely interesting time for our planet specifically. While all planets (and the mass consciousness of the planet) undergo transitions through the dimensions, ours shift is occurring extremely rapidly. What some planets may take thousands or even millions of years to make this shift, ours is happening in about the span of over 30 years or so. We're talking exponential evolution. On an evolutionary scale that's like jumping 10 light years in a nanosecond. This is a momentous occasion throughout the galaxy, and it effects not only us but neighboring systems as well, or even a galaxy 500 billion light years away... it's all connected.
Some of them are here just to watch and observe. Taking notes, as it were. Some of them take a more direct approach and have various missions and tasks working in the background to attempt influence..
As they cannot interfere, directly in our reality, this means they cannot interact with our conscious mind. In fact they don't even exist on that wavelength, they reside permanently on what we call the subconscious/unconscious level. The 4th dimension is without ego, a loss of 'self' while still maintaining an identity, a re-connection of group identity, this is the 'state' many of them reside on. All communication is telepathic, as this is the most efficient Universal language known. As a result, all contacts occur on the subconscious level, which is why many contactees had regression before they even realized the experience.. the mind conveniently tucked it away. They simply had to remember it.
We cannot expect alien beamships to land on the white house lawn and say Hello. That's not how they roll. We're a fucked up race of beings on this planet, and things are changing, fast. But for the better, I think. They are not here to solve our problems for us... we fucked ourselves we have to unfuck ourselves. What they ARE here to do, is help guide us in the right directions once we have established ourselves as an awakened civilization. They are here to help the awakening process along, working subtly in the background.. Once the filth is washed away, real cleansing can begin. But the drain has to get unclogged first.
We are not alone in the Universe. In fact this Milky Way Galaxy alone is home to thousands of star nations, most of which are part of an alliance of nations, some call the Galactic Federation, or Federation of Light. Earth is to become a member of this Federation and become a beacon of light in the future. Earth the light ship.
So yeah there's a lot of crazy shit going down on Earth right now, it's the melting pot of the Universe, lots of crazy experiments. It's pretty much the craziest experiment the Universe has ever attempted. So it's very interesting to a lot of people. And if we pull it off, that's going in the mofucking history books.
tl;dr: So they are all already there. We just have to meet them there halfway. They've taken the first step, they are waiting for us to meet them on that middle ground. As for government disclosure of the UFO coverup, yes I think it will happen soon.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11714520 - 12/24/09 10:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe, but also think that they are staying away for some reason. There are cave drawings depicting alien and UFO stuff, our own native american tribes have stories of alien abductions. The MAYA and the Egyptians have UFO carvings and drawings too.
My Mom and I saw what we believed to be an alien craft silently fly across the sky after our car had stopped working for some reason and after it was out of sight the car lights turned back on and the car started just fine as if nothing was wrong. I was like 7 or 8 and my Mom was like 40 I think and we both saw the same thing.
It's funny how the same person that won't believe in UFO's or Aliens, even with video evidence yet will quickly accept that there is an all powerful God that made man from dirt and women from a rib and that there was a guy named Jesus that came back from the dead and had mystical powers.
I guess it's just all about what you wish to believe.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Morican]
#11714556 - 12/24/09 10:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's funny how the same person that won't believe in UFO's or Aliens, even with video evidence yet will quickly accept that there is an all powerful God that made man from dirt and women from a rib and that there was a guy named Jesus that came back from the dead and had mystical powers.
I guess it's just all about what you wish to believe.
People seem to ignore and block out the scary things in life and welcome the good. I can understand why people don't want to believe in alien visitation. The idea is flat out terrifying. Believing in God provides a sense of comfort when it comes to death.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Shroomism]
#11714565 - 12/24/09 11:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: The alien beings visiting this planet at this time are all under what is called the "Rule of Non-Interference" with 'undeveloped' civilizations. An undeveloped civilization being one, which has not undergone it's transformation yet into a galactic society. i.e - Left their own solar system under their own power and discovered the galactic society on their own... or spiritually transcended on a global level into it. The "Global Society" simply being: The awareness of, and coexistence with other sentient intelligent beings and lifeforms in other parts of the Universe. The rule of non-interference is rule number 1 when dealing with a "sleeping" society. They are not allowed to interfere directly with our reality. This caused some problems in the past, when they would reveal themselves, and the lessons they brought us, and instead we worshiped them like gods, which was not what they wanted. And there were other incidents with some dominant races causing some other issues with enslavement of lesser evolved humanoids, so protocols for interaction had to be put in place you see. We have to learn our lessons ourselves.
All/most? civilizations recorded throughout the Universe all follow a distinct pattern of evolution. The level we are at now is the turning point for civilizations who have followed our same or similar path before. Our technology surpasses our understanding of the spiritual implications or knowledge backing it, (cloning, nuclear weapons, etc) we have destructive habits without the understanding of the full circle, and we are on a totally self-destructive path. At the same time, there is a vast new spectrum of knowledge becoming available, and connecting people in ways like never before. There is an awakening occurring on the brink of destruction. It is at this point, that civilizations usually do one of the following:
1. Collapse into war;anarchy;chaos;pollution;famine whatever and we destroy ourselves and our ability to survive on the planet. 2. Evolve into higher levels of understanding and living in harmony with ourselves and each other.
There is really not much wiggle room between the two. You either go with the flow, evolve and change to suit your environment, or it kills you, or in this case we kill ourselves. Either way, civilization as we have built it cannot last for long, it is simply not sustainable. New methods must be brought to the table, new ways of creating beneficial organic technology. New ways of restoring the planet, and each other.
This is an extremely interesting time for our planet specifically. While all planets (and the mass consciousness of the planet) undergo transitions through the dimensions, ours shift is occurring extremely rapidly. What some planets may take thousands or even millions of years to make this shift, ours is happening in about the span of over 30 years or so. We're talking exponential evolution. On an evolutionary scale that's like jumping 10 light years in a nanosecond. This is a momentous occasion throughout the galaxy, and it effects not only us but neighboring systems as well, or even a galaxy 500 billion light years away... it's all connected.
Some of them are here just to watch and observe. Taking notes, as it were. Some of them take a more direct approach and have various missions and tasks working in the background to attempt influence..
As they cannot interfere, directly in our reality, this means they cannot interact with our conscious mind. In fact they don't even exist on that wavelength, they reside permanently on what we call the subconscious/unconscious level. The 4th dimension is without ego, a loss of 'self' while still maintaining an identity, a re-connection of group identity, this is the 'state' many of them reside on. All communication is telepathic, as this is the most efficient Universal language known. As a result, all contacts occur on the subconscious level, which is why many contactees had regression before they even realized the experience.. the mind conveniently tucked it away. They simply had to remember it.
We cannot expect alien beamships to land on the white house lawn and say Hello. That's not how they roll. We're a fucked up race of beings on this planet, and things are changing, fast. But for the better, I think. They are not here to solve our problems for us... we fucked ourselves we have to unfuck ourselves. What they ARE here to do, is help guide us in the right directions once we have established ourselves as an awakened civilization. They are here to help the awakening process along, working subtly in the background.. Once the filth is washed away, real cleansing can begin. But the drain has to get unclogged first.
We are not alone in the Universe. In fact this Milky Way Galaxy alone is home to thousands of star nations, most of which are part of an alliance of nations, some call the Galactic Federation, or Federation of Light. Earth is to become a member of this Federation and become a beacon of light in the future. Earth the light ship.
So yeah there's a lot of crazy shit going down on Earth right now, it's the melting pot of the Universe, lots of crazy experiments. It's pretty much the craziest experiment the Universe has ever attempted. So it's very interesting to a lot of people. And if we pull it off, that's going in the mofucking history books.
tl;dr: So they are all already there. We just have to meet them there halfway. They've taken the first step, they are waiting for us to meet them on that middle ground. As for government disclosure of the UFO coverup, yes I think it will happen soon.
I have read up on all of these things and i love you for posting it. I really believe this is what is going on. we can only love one another and see if we can make it through this shit storm of the norm, this straight line of living. We need to wake up as a species!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
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I think we're not worth visiting. Seriously consider this. We have almost killed off most of the species again.(6th great extinction) We have raped most of our forests. Our oceans and rivers are in a sorry state.... And thousands of children die every day while we burn through the last of our fuel.
We don't deserve "visitors" and as much as I want help, I'm not so sure it should even be offered.
Of course I'm feeling a little pissy. Maybe later after Kratom I'll be talking about how cool it will be if/when I ride a spaceship.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said: I think we're not worth visiting. Seriously consider this. We have almost killed off most of the species again.(6th great extinction) We have raped most of our forests. Our oceans and rivers are in a sorry state.... And thousands of children die every day while we burn through the last of our fuel.
We don't deserve "visitors" and as much as I want help, I'm not so sure it should even be offered.
If they are as advanced spiritually as they are technologically, I would imagine we would not be viewed as some hopeless planet to be left to it's own demise, but as brothers and equals in creation who are going through a very challenging process of growth. And how exciting it must be to watch the drama of Earth unfold!
I agree with Shroomism that there is probably some sort of quarantine in effect that will allow us to work through our own problems. How can we be expected to function if they just land and implant us with knowledge and technology when we do not have the maturity to process and use it wisely?
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Psilocybeingzz said: I think we're not worth visiting. Seriously consider this. We have almost killed off most of the species again.(6th great extinction) We have raped most of our forests. Our oceans and rivers are in a sorry state.... And thousands of children die every day while we burn through the last of our fuel.
We don't deserve "visitors" and as much as I want help, I'm not so sure it should even be offered.
If they are as advanced spiritually as they are technologically, I would imagine we would not be viewed as some hopeless planet to be left to it's own demise, but as brothers and equals in creation who are going through a very challenging process of growth. And how exciting it must be to watch the drama of Earth unfold!
I agree with Shroomism that there is probably some sort of quarantine in effect that will allow us to work through our own problems. How can we be expected to function if they just land and implant us with knowledge and technology when we do not have the maturity to process and use it wisely?
I love this! This is how we as a people need to think. Such an exciting time we live in.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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Maybe humans and all life are a seed planted by aliens, maybe some kind of experiment for them. Maybe they planted consciousness in humans. Maybe they are humans from the past who have mastered space and time.. Maybe they are humans from the future! I am open minded about stuff like this but I need EVIDENCE... and the fact that there is not a single shred of 100% evidence makes me skeptical about the subject.
I would love to believe that aliens have and are visiting us. But until it is a fact that aliens do exist and visit us... until I actually see an alien with my own eyes... I will remain a skeptic
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: danlennon3]
#11714761 - 12/24/09 11:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I understand that you like most need absolute proof of these things.
There is actually a theory on this subject that most of us did come from alien seed. Apparently african americans are the only true species on the planet. Do i believe this? Not sure. But apparently Asians, Whites, Hispanics whatever other came about around the same time. If tht is true then what other cause could there be? Like I said. I do not know if this is the truth. But who am I to second guess it?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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danlennon3 said: Maybe humans and all life are a seed planted by aliens, maybe some kind of experiment for them. Maybe they planted consciousness in humans. Maybe they are humans from the past who have mastered space and time.. Maybe they are humans from the future! I am open minded about stuff like this but I need EVIDENCE... and the fact that there is not a single shred of 100% evidence makes me skeptical about the subject.
I would love to believe that aliens have and are visiting us. But until it is a fact that aliens do exist and visit us... until I actually see an alien with my own eyes... I will remain a skeptic
how else can you explain these things? i don't believe for a second that they are human, having seen some myself.. but i like the theory that aliens on some level could actually be our creators 
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I used to think aliens were spiritual beings, but wouldn't that contradict- abducting humans and doing experiments on them? im a little paranoid that these things could be hostile, but then that begs the question- what is the hold up? maybe the people flying these things have intense debate and law on how to handle our planet....
there is also the possibility they want to help us, but that would again give me the question- why don't they show themselves world wide and make some sort of offer....
it would be funny if alien invasion mythology turned out to be true in the future, but that would also mean we are all fucked... the Government doesn't stand a chance against these things with the ufo's technology but maybe this could also mean a new Government..
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714782 - 12/24/09 11:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It is a fascinating topic. and once I felt I was abducted by an alien, it felt 100% real. But I was on LSD and a HEAVY dose of ketamine! I know for a fact that this experience was not an alien abduction, but it was SOOOO real at the time! I know this is off-topic but I just wanted to talk about it
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said: Right, and technology that was once thought to be impossible is now used every day.
Meaningless, and typical, crackpot response. The vast majority of technology once thought to be impossible remains impossible today and will likley always be impossible. Regardless, what somebody in the past thought about what is possible and how right or wrong he or she was is irrelevant - it has nothing to do with space travel, aliens intelligence and the vastness of space. Similarly, what ancient Americans thought about the ocean and canoes is completey irreverent. We are not ancient Americans, space is not the ocean, and you cant travel to other planets in canoes.
Finally, I know you have alot of faith in the technological singularity but frankly, thats ridiculous. At least the way you have poised it. Technology may approximate exponential growth in our small slice of time, but there is absolutely no reason or evidence to assume that it can grow without bound exponentially. There is every reason and much evidence to suggest there is a limit to technology based on the inherent properties of space and thus technology grows in a logistic rather than exponential fashion.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said: The vast majority of technology once thought to be impossible remains impossible today and will likley always be impossible.
Based on what? Supposing that you're right that what someone in the past thought about what is possible is irrelevant, it therefore follows that what we think currently about what is possible is also irrelevant in comparison to a physicist several hundred years in the future. We have a better likelihood of being right, sure, but this does not guarantee that we know everything at this present moment.
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DieCommie said: Finally, I know you have alot of faith in the technological singularity but frankly, thats ridiculous. At least the way you have poised it. Technology may approximate exponential growth in our small slice of time, but there is absolutely no reason or evidence to assume that it can grow without bound exponentially. There is every reason and much evidence to suggest there is a limit to technology based on the inherent properties of space and thus technology grows in a logistic rather than exponential fashion.
I agree that the progress of technology must halt eventually but so far all we've seen is exponential growth... I find it much more likely that this growth will continue to the point where our advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic a ala Clarke rather than stop at our current level.
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I used to think aliens were spiritual beings, but wouldn't that contradict- abducting humans and doing experiments on them? im a little paranoid that these things could be hostile, but then that begs the question- what is the hold up? maybe the people flying these things have intense debate and law on how to handle our planet....
there is also the possibility they want to help us, but that would again give me the question- why don't they show themselves world wide and make some sort of offer....
Making generalizations about aliens is probably just as silly as making generalizations about humans. Some may be mindless drones existing as members of a hive mind, and other may be beings on the verge of enlightenment. Both types could be active on earth.
We are most likely limited by our view of reality when we try and imagine these things. What if our existence on earth is a sort of self imposed process that our souls go through for the sake of growth? It would be very inappropriate for any E.T civilization which is aware of this to just reveal themselves and bail us out, as the whole point may be to see if we can pull ourselves out of the mess we are in through our own efforts.
We really don't know anything. So much speculation based on some flying discs and lights in the sky.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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skatealex2 said: I used to think aliens were spiritual beings, but wouldn't that contradict- abducting humans and doing experiments on them?
Both angels and demons are spiritual beings, you know.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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Supposing that you're right that what someone in the past thought about what is possible is irrelevant, it therefore follows that what we think currently about what is possible is also irrelevant in comparison to a physicist several hundred years in the future. We have a better likelihood of being right, sure, but this does not guarantee that we know everything at this present moment.
You're missing the point. You are making arguments on the fallacy of man, not the issue of the feasibility of interstellar travel. Of course man has been wrong before, that doesn't make space travel any more feasible. This is a variation of the classic Galileo fallacy: 'They laughed at Galileo and he was right, they are laughing at me - I must be right!'. It doesn't work that way.
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I find it much more likely that this growth will continue to the point where our advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic a ala Clarke rather than stop at our current level.
I think we passed that point many years ago. To the uneducated, modern technology would be like (or surpass) magic.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said: Of course man has been wrong before, that doesn't make space travel any more feasible.
I think you're probably right in that matter can't break the light speed barrier but I'd speculate that advanced extraterrestrials wouldn't use matter to travel; maybe they would have already transcended to some sort of extradimensional mental existence?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
#11714952 - 12/25/09 12:23 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tranquil Toad said: Some may be mindless drones existing as members of a hive mind
That's the exact impression I have about these entities. If some of the reports I've heard are true, then it seems these aliens are almost like a bee hive or ant colony with super intelligence. They may work as a collective consciousness rather than individuals. Some people report that these beings can speak telepathically and mindscan people. If this is true, then they probably communicate with each other the same way. It's almost like one big super computer is linking the smaller individual computers into one huge organism.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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Making generalizations about aliens is probably just as silly as making generalizations about humans. Some may be mindless drones existing as members of a hive mind, and other may be beings on the verge of enlightenment. Both types could be active on earth.
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Both angels and demons are spiritual beings, you know.
good points! we certainly can't generalize ufo's..... and that makes it even harder to imagine what their motives could be. i cant imagine the difference between an enlightened ufo or a mindless drone member...
i also wonder if any type of ufo is more likely to abduct someone... the mindless drones or the enlightened ones... i imagine it is tempting for a ufo going on a solo mission
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#11714976 - 12/25/09 12:30 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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please keep it going guys. im off to bed im sorry to say. have a safe x-mas if you celebrate it that is.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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I still fail to see how that is relevant. We could go all night throwing out hypotheticals. Stating a hypothetical isnt evidence of anything.
(Also, remember that relativity doesnt just restrict matter to sub light speeds, it restricts any and all information to sub light speeds - including any communication/observation/interaction with transcended extraterrestrials like in Clarke's books. Unless you abandon causality or the postulates of relativity, which would just be more hypotheticals)
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715033 - 12/25/09 12:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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IDK man I'm just trying to rationally explain experiences that people have had with apparently external entities.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#11715059 - 12/25/09 12:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ha! I dont believe that for a second.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#11715062 - 12/25/09 12:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Really, I don't know what I believe. But I can tell you that I'm pretty fascinated by the stuff. The whole Roswell thing along with Bob Lazar got me interested a long time ago.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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DieCommie said: I still fail to see how that is relevant. We could go all night throwing out hypotheticals. Stating a hypothetical isnt evidence of anything.
(Also, remember that relativity doesnt just restrict matter to sub light speeds, it restricts any and all information to sub light speeds - including any communication/observation/interaction with transcended extraterrestrials like in Clarke's books. Unless you abandon causality or the postulates of relativity, which would just be more hypotheticals)
There is quantum non-locality. Particle A can effect particle B at a distance instantaneously at a distance, faster than the speed of light.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715067 - 12/25/09 12:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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That the entities are truly external or that I'm trying to rationally explain these experiences?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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Tranquil Toad said: There is quantum non-locality. Particle A can effect particle B at a distance instantaneously at a distance, faster than the speed of light.
Kind of. Entanglement doesn't violate relativity and it does not provide a means of communicating anything faster than light. It does not allow for faster than light travel and is not a possible explanation for visits from ETs, corporeal or not.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said: That the entities are truly external or that I'm trying to rationally explain these experiences?
That you are trying to rationally explain these experiences.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715101 - 12/25/09 12:59 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've experienced contact with entities before but I'm not sure what to make of it. Regardless of whether it was an autonomous complex of my subconscious or an actual extraterrestrial I still believe there is a rational explanation for every event.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#11715123 - 12/25/09 01:04 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sure, Id like to think that too. Im not sure those hypoteticals you were throwing out were very rational though. Sometime the rational conclusion contradicts our belief system, or is even embarrassing. Sometimes its easier to invent hypotheticals rather than apply occams razor. I think that is what is happening here.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
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I guess I'm defining an irrational explanation as an explanation that's not logically possible. I like to think that so far I've stayed within the grounds of possibility though I may have certainly strayed into the grounds of improbability. At any rate I still believe that we can't possibly fathom what future technology is capable of.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
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The grounds of possibility are so unimaginably large, I dont think its worthwhile to explore them much. The grounds of probability are where knowledge and wisdom lie, possibility is the realm of the foolish.
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Some years ago I had a conversation with a layman about flying saucers — because I am scientific I know all about flying saucers! I said "I don't think there are flying saucers'. So my antagonist said, "Is it impossible that there are flying saucers? Can you prove that it's impossible?" "No", I said, "I can't prove it's impossible. It's just very unlikely". At that he said, "You are very unscientific. If you can't prove it impossible then how can you say that it's unlikely?" But that is the way that is scientific. It is scientific only to say what is more likely and what less likely, and not to be proving all the time the possible and impossible.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
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I WANT TO BELIEVE, dammit.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#11715205 - 12/25/09 01:30 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey, thats your prerogative. So is defining such a belief as rational. If that is really what you want, then that is what you shall have.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715207 - 12/25/09 01:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DieCommie said: The grounds of possibility are so unimaginably large, I dont think its worthwhile to explore them much. The grounds of probability are where knowledge and wisdom lie, possibility is the realm of the foolish.
From the clip I posted above: Quote:
Some years ago I had a conversation with a layman about flying saucers — because I am scientific I know all about flying saucers! I said "I don't think there are flying saucers'. So my antagonist said, "Is it impossible that there are flying saucers? Can you prove that it's impossible?" "No", I said, "I can't prove it's impossible. It's just very unlikely". At that he said, "You are very unscientific. If you can't prove it impossible then how can you say that it's unlikely?" But that is the way that is scientific. It is scientific only to say what is more likely and what less likely, and not to be proving all the time the possible and impossible.
Considering there are an incredible amount of sightings of these objects, what is the most probable explanation? If not E.Ts, then some natural phenomenon? Cultural wide hallucinations? Considering all the things that people could imagine or be deluded about, its strange that so many people are reporting strange craft in our skies. No other delusion or mass hallucination (aside from religion, perhaps) is prominent in our culture.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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Tranquil Toad said: Considering there are an incredible amount of sightings of these objects, what is the most probable explanation? If not E.Ts, then some natural phenomenon? Cultural wide hallucinations? Considering all the things that people could imagine or be deluded about, its strange that so many people are reporting strange craft in our skies. No other delusion or mass hallucination (aside from religion, perhaps) is prominent in our culture.
aside from the countless sightings i think it is significant that the Roswell Files have never been released.... before the Roswell incident the Government used to be officially involved with ufo's for a short period time... it was called Project Blue Book- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Blue_Book
"Project Blue Book was one of a series of systematic studies of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) conducted by the United States Air Force (U.S.A.F.). Started in 1952, it was the second revival of such a study. A termination order was given for the study in December 1969, and all activity under its auspices ceased in January 1970.
Project Blue Book had two goals:
1. to determine if UFOs were a threat to national security, and 2. to scientifically analyze UFO-related data.
Thousands of UFO reports were collected, analyzed and filed. As the result of the Condon Report, which concluded there was nothing anomalous about any UFOs, Project Blue Book was ordered shut down in December 1969. This project was the last publicly known UFO research project led by the USAF.[1]
By the time Project Blue Book ended, it had collected 12,618 UFO reports, and concluded that most of them were misidentifications of natural phenomena (clouds, stars, etc.) or conventional aircraft. A few were considered hoaxes. 701 of the reports — about six percent — were classified as unknowns, defying detailed analysis.[2] The UFO reports were archived and are available under the Freedom of Information Act, but names and other personal information of all witnesses have been changed.
Post-Blue Book U.S.A.F. UFO activities
An Air Force memorandum (released via the Freedom of Information Act) dated October 20, 1969 and signed by Brigadier General C.H. Bolander states that even after Blue Book was dissolved, that "reports of UFOs" would still "continue to be handled through the standard Air Force procedure designed for this purpose." Furthermore, wrote Bolander, "Reports of unidentified flying objects which could affect national security … are not part of the Blue Book system."[3] To date, these other investigation channels, agencies or groups are unknown.
Additionally, Blum reports[8] that Freedom of Information Act requests show that the U.S. Air Force has continued to catalog and track UFO sightings, particularly a series of dozens of UFO encounters from the late 1960s to the mid-1970s that occurred at U.S. military facilities with nuclear weapons. Blum writes that some of these official documents depart drastically from the normally dry and bureaucratic wording of government paperwork, making obvious the sense of "terror" that these UFO incidents inspired in many U.S.A.F. personnel."
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715434 - 12/25/09 02:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DieCommie said: Also, remember that relativity doesnt just restrict matter to sub light speeds, it restricts any and all information to sub light speeds
What about tachyons?
Edit: nevermind, I see it's already been adressed
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#11715881 - 12/25/09 07:20 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your problem is that you flat out deny human experience despite the implications of said experiences.
People all over the world having extremely similar experiences of craft with lights and aliens which usually are the same. In several cases the people seeing these things had never been exposed to the media etc etc
You just flat out disregard this.
As I keep saying it doesn't matter how much you think this shouldn't / can't be happening because it is happening and nobody has come up with a more reasonable explanation.
You can put it down to mass hallucination and lies but I'm telling you - you have not studied the phenomena properly if you conclude that because the phenomena consistently proves this to be wrong.
IMO the most reasonable explaination is that exactly what appears to be happening IS happening.
It takes bigger leaps of logic to conclude that the entire world is having a mass hallucination or in on some mass hoax.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11716361 - 12/25/09 10:32 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Like I said, it would be asinine to claim that there are no such thing as unidentified flying objects. But the point is that they are unidentified.
Why 'unidentified' should be automatically equated with 'extraterrestrial' is completely beyond me.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11716367 - 12/25/09 10:33 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Once we know they are extraterrestrial, they become IFOs.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Shroomism]
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
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I don't call them UFOs, I just call them beamships
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11716466 - 12/25/09 11:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Its a reasonable assumption.
We could assume they are all hoaxed.
Truth is the UFO phenomena covers all of these things (hoaxes, misidenifications, man-made devices, craft of unknown origin etc) but if you study the phenomena then you are referring to the outstanding incidents, the ones that are certainly not hoaxes.
In the cases of these outstanding incidents it is reasonable to guess the craft to be ET because of the amount of people who have encountered their occupants. Although its possible these ET's are actually extra-dimensional or even us from the future as one person here stated earlier.
The only thing I'm personally certain of is that there are advanced space craft that are not hoaxes or delusions and in light of the phenomena as a whole unlikely to all be secret man-made craft.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11716492 - 12/25/09 11:14 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said: Its a reasonable assumption.
We could assume they are all hoaxed.
Truth is the UFO phenomena covers all of these things (hoaxes, misidenifications, man-made devices, craft of unknown origin etc) but if you study the phenomena then you are referring to the outstanding incidents, the ones that are certainly not hoaxes.
In the cases of these outstanding incidents it is reasonable to guess the craft to be ET because of the amount of people who have encountered their occupants. Although its possible these ET's are actually extra-dimensional or even us from the future as one person here stated earlier.
The only thing I'm personally certain of is that there are advanced space craft that are not hoaxes or delusions and in light of the phenomena as a whole unlikely to all be secret man-made craft.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11716584 - 12/25/09 11:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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nice1 said: Its a reasonable assumption.
We could assume they are all hoaxed.
Truth is the UFO phenomena covers all of these things (hoaxes, misidenifications, man-made devices, craft of unknown origin etc) but if you study the phenomena then you are referring to the outstanding incidents, the ones that are certainly not hoaxes.
I'm not saying that they're all hoaxes. I'm talking about the same "outstanding incidents" you are. To me, it seems like an extremely irrational leap from unexplained to extraterrestrial.
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In the cases of these outstanding incidents it is reasonable to guess the craft to be ET because of the amount of people who have encountered their occupants.
...and yet somehow nearly every encounter fits the symptoms of sleep paralysis almost exactly. Between sleep paralysis and various not-uncommon drug experiences, I think it's safe to say that the human mind is wired to be prone to imagining exactly the type of entity that people describe.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11716616 - 12/25/09 11:50 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sorry but your wrong - the majority of what I call outstanding incidents of close encounters do not happen while the person is asleep.
I'm aware of this modern day confusion of sleep paralysis and some people do confuse the two but its fairly easy to distinguish between the two.
Look at any of the close encounter incidents and the witnesses were wide awake and outside doing everyday tasks. Let me reference a few for you to research...
Stephen Michilak Alan Godfrey Barny and Betty Hill Travis Walton Pascagoula abductions Allagash abductions
These are all exceptional cases and in all cases the people were wide awake and have secondary evidence. In the case of Stephen Michilak he had physical evidence in the burns and radiation poisoning he received. In the other cases there was evidence such as multiple corroborating witnesses and lie detector test evidence.
Its not 100% solid proof but it is certainly highly suggestive. These are just a portion of the credible close encounters that have happened world wide.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11717479 - 12/25/09 04:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think linking alien encounters with sleep paralysis is a pretty big stretch. Yes one sometimes experiences an entity while in that state, but it is usually either a vague idea of something in the room, or black shadows - not detailed reports of alien beings along with a lengthy encounter scenario.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11719761 - 12/26/09 02:03 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help? And does it have a spot for my penis?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
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Psilocybeingzz said: If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help? And does it have a spot for my penis?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11719795 - 12/26/09 02:18 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybeingzz said: If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help? And does it have a spot for my penis?

Oh boo hoo. I didn't ask you to be amused. When they added that icon, they should have realized it was going to be over used in a douchey manner.
And besides, the greys have raped plenty of our people. It's time someone stuck something in them for once. It can be a probe. It doesn't have to be my penis.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#11719810 - 12/26/09 02:28 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybeingzz said: If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help? And does it have a spot for my penis?

Oh boo hoo. I didn't ask you to be amused. When they added that icon, they should have realized it was going to be over used in a douchey manner.
And besides, the greys have raped plenty of our people. It's time someone stuck something in them for once. It can be a probe. It doesn't have to be my penis.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#11719823 - 12/26/09 02:36 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybeingzz said: If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help?
Seriously? Well to be honest, I think you wouldn't even have a chance to get anywhere near it. They probably have the ability to mindscan you. Therefore it would know your intentions of raping it just as fast as you can think of the idea. If you happen to be someone who randomly does things such as raping somebody without thinking about it first, then yes the Grey would probably call out for help telepathically. I imagine you would receive the most epic anal probing the Greys have to offer in return for your heinous crime.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Metatronix]
#11719837 - 12/26/09 02:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybeingzz said: If I held down and raped a grey, would it call out telepathically for help?
Seriously? Well to be honest, I think you wouldn't even have a chance to get anywhere near it. They probably have the ability to mindscan you. Therefore it would know your intentions of raping it just as fast as you can think of the idea. I'm a Satanist. And thedudenj taught me to use Datura for flying, blocking mindscans, and scanning people myself.
If you happen to be someone who randomly does things such as raping somebody without thinking about it first, then yes the Grey would probably call out for help telepathically. I imagine you would receive the most epic anal probing the Greys have to offer in return for your heinous crime. 
True and I would totally deserve it. Wow. You did more than use an icon. Amazing how people can sometime put their feelings into words! To convey ideas!
Anyway, I couldn't even kill a cow unless it was for food, I doubt I could rape a highly intelligent alien, let alone a woman. It's just not in my nature to be brutal like that..... Hell our senseless brutality, both on a personal basis, and as a whole culture is one of the main things that makes me FEEL like an ALIEN on this crazy planet. (so to speak)
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#12410638 - 04/17/10 06:44 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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sorry its so late, i just found and read this thread and thought this would be interesting. \http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/15/midwest.fireball/index.html one like this was seen months earlier also. i dont see how if it was a meteor how it would be in sky so low, and for 15 minutes.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Legend]
#12410694 - 04/17/10 06:59 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't think official disclosure is required.
Odds are strongly positive that life exists outside of earth.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Shins]
#12411248 - 04/17/10 09:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shins said: I don't think official disclosure is required.
Odds are strongly positive that life exists outside of earth.
this isn't about that
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#12451730 - 04/24/10 11:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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did anyone see the History channel show over the Hebrews crossing over the dessert. They had some sort of machine that created this algae they lived on. We can now create this, and it provides lots of nutrients. And the ark of the covenant be radioactive. They think this was all given to them by Extraterrestrials. Crazy shit.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Legend]
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Legend]
#12453249 - 04/25/10 11:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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legit27 said: did anyone see the History channel show over the Hebrews crossing over the dessert. They had some sort of machine that created this algae they lived on. We can now create this, and it provides lots of nutrients. And the ark of the covenant be radioactive. They think this was all given to them by Extraterrestrials. Crazy shit.
Just watched that last night. Its like the second installment of the Ancient Aliens on the history channel. And it was even more interesting.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#12453501 - 04/25/10 12:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok idn if this has been posted yet but i really feel that this guy, johnathan reed, is NOT lying about what he saw; its pretty obvious in the video that he isnt faking his emotion, hes definitely in shock. its a must watch series and a truly incredible story, that again, i really have vetted and have found nothing that refutes it. what do you guys think? oh and I would really recommend that you watch the whole series...
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jw2234]
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ALIENS ARE NOT REAL. They are humans from the future's past.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
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legit27 said: did anyone see the History channel show over the Hebrews crossing over the dessert. They had some sort of machine that created this algae they lived on. We can now create this, and it provides lots of nutrients. And the ark of the covenant be radioactive. They think this was all given to them by Extraterrestrials. Crazy shit.
Just watched that last night. Its like the second installment of the Ancient Aliens on the history channel. And it was even more interesting.
its pretty mind fucking to think about! but yeah thats what it was, the ancient aliens program.
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I don't believe there will be
I know there will be
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skatealex2 said: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/26/aliens-probably-no-friends-of-yours-stephen-hawking-says/
simple minded fool
Because he posted a story?
What's simple minded about it. I found the info Stephan Hawking presented fascinating. And I'm kinda proud to say I've been saying basically the same thing for years!
It's not hard to imagine given how thinly dispersed life seems to be that we might just be cattle or something to concur for them. Of course we all want them to be magical benevolent beings that will usher in a new glorious future........But that's not a cold rational look. It's beautifully imaginative, but hardly likely.
And look at what we are? We're great in many ways, but we're still disgusting and primitive in others. Who says we'd be looked at as intelligent enough, worthy of them? Look what we do to each other, and our home.
We'd be looked at pretty fucking horribly. And we'd be lucky if they had compassion for us. What if their hyper intelligent, violent to other species, and dismissive of our existence? What then? Space Jam?
A terrible movie wont save you.
Also....calling Alex for posting a story just shows how weird the moderation here is. People misunderstand a joke and I get banned. You call people simple minded fools, I checked a thread with tons of straight up trolling.....and I get kicked for humor.
Thanks again for the most recent one WS :P That was so wise.
Anyway, you are way off base for saying such a thing. He posted a fascinating story. One I was going to post myself.
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i am not saying he is, i am saying steven hawking is
maybe he knows about physics but he doesnt know about aliens or theology or archeology it seems to me
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12469632 - 04/28/10 01:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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you are ALL wrong and I am the only one who's right
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12469633 - 04/28/10 01:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Aliens only eat humans.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
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like the show V. come on, people seriously think if an alien civilization can travel across the galaxy the need to eat humans?
give me a break
i can only think of positive reasons for a civilization that advanced to be coming here.
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and you usually know its a legit ufo
Interesting. There are objects that are truly unidentified. And the more unidentified they are; the more we can be sure they are something.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12479942 - 04/29/10 08:02 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: i am not saying he is, i am saying steven hawking is
maybe he knows about physics but he doesnt know about aliens or theology or archeology it seems to me
1. Yes HE DOES understand those subjects. And probably far better than you do, including Theology.
2. Even if he didn't, who fucking cares. He's doing real science. He's doing important, revolutionary things. Theology? Really? You're going to come at him like that? 
And the idea he's simple minded. WOW. Ironic that you'd say such a thing.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: like the show V. come on, people seriously think if an alien civilization can travel across the galaxy the need to eat humans?
give me a break
i can only think of positive reasons for a civilization that advanced to be coming here.
I thought the Vs found humans disgusting and gross smelling
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480014 - 04/29/10 08:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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lets say there ARE aliens and theyre very advanced and have been visiting earth.
why would they want to come here?
i highly doubt it would be to come say hello and become best friends with us.
IMO a more reasonable explanation would be that they have run out of resources on their current planet, OR something is about to destroy it (an asteroid, a dieing star, w/e) and they are looking to keep their species alive somewhere else.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: thoughts]
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iwasaClown said: lets say there ARE aliens and theyre very advanced and have been visiting earth.
why would they want to come here?
curiosity. the same reason we might want to visit an ant hill sometime
side note: aliens would NOT come to earth for resources there are plenty of resources on uninhabited planets they would not go through the trouble unless there is some ultra rare element that is on earth that we don't know about  but then we're just dealing with space pirates
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480040 - 04/29/10 08:19 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Stephan Hawking =
I THINK NOT.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480071 - 04/29/10 08:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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iwasaClown said: lets say there ARE aliens and theyre very advanced and have been visiting earth.
why would they want to come here?
curiosity. the same reason we might want to visit an ant hill sometime
side note: aliens would NOT come to earth for resources there are plenty of resources on uninhabited planets they would not go through the trouble unless there is some ultra rare element that is on earth that we don't know about  but then we're just dealing with space pirates 
exactly
if you can rip a hole into the other side of the universe, you probably don't have resource issues
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12480099 - 04/29/10 08:27 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh here's the video I was thankin' about while writing that
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480213 - 04/29/10 08:44 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think there are reasons to believe aliens would be interested in us
he says at a certain point you become immortal
what do you think a bunch of immortals do with all the time they have?
they play in the sandbox
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12480239 - 04/29/10 08:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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what did you do once you beat Spore? lol
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480600 - 04/29/10 09:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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When aliens come this will happen.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480631 - 04/29/10 09:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Envix said: what did you do once you beat Spore? lol
i definitely dont think if i am immortal i will get my rocks off going around killing developing planets
*shrug* seems to me like in order for a civilization to get to a certain point, all the assholes have to die off. if you have time travel technology what is stopping some douche bag from ruining everything?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
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well if Hitler got his way we would be a NAzi planet and probably a whole lot more technologically advanced and would probably already be conquering other planets by now. but also we'd be a nazi planet..
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12480655 - 04/29/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Envix said: well if Hitler got his way we would be a NAzi planet and probably a whole lot more technologically advanced and would probably already be conquering other planets by now. but also we'd be a nazi planet..
hitler didn't get his way
people like hitler tend not to get their way, given time.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12480680 - 04/29/10 09:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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This disclosure is old news it happened a few years ago
A large number of ex high ranking officals including air traffic controllers, ex secret op. officers, commercial pilots, numorous military defence specialists with top secret clearance, people who had access to very sensitive documents lieutenants, ex commanders in the u.s airforce, astronauts,etc...
If this isnt disclosure enough I dont know what your expecting, for obama to make a huge speech over a emergency broadcast on the T.V??
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#12480688 - 04/29/10 10:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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KroniclyHigh said: This disclosure is old news it happened a few years ago
A large number of ex high ranking officals including air traffic controllers, ex secret op. officers, commercial pilots, numorous military defence specialists with top secret clearance, people who had access to very sensitive documents lieutenants, ex commanders in the u.s airforce, astronauts,etc...
If this isnt disclosure enough I dont know what your expecting, for obama to make a huge speech over a emergency broadcast on the T.V??
thats what a lot of conspiracy theorists say is going to happen
I respect a lot of what david wilcock says. I dont believe all of it, but thats what he thinks is going to happen, and he has quite a few followers
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12480691 - 04/29/10 10:00 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: people like hitler tend not to get their way, given time.
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
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morrowasted said: people like hitler tend not to get their way, given time.
ehhhhhhhhhhhh
most people dont like dying
you get someone whose bright idea for the future is to kill everyone he doesnt like, generally it isn't going to turn out well for him.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12481100 - 04/29/10 11:28 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Envix said: well if Hitler got his way we would be a NAzi planet and probably a whole lot more technologically advanced and would probably already be conquering other planets by now. but also we'd be a nazi planet..
Nazi lesbians, dude. Nazi lesbians.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#12481111 - 04/29/10 11:30 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh my goodness! This thread is back! I thought it was moved to Conspiracy Theories forum a couple of months ago! :O
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: gab1159]
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no there are two. i made one thread that is like 40 pages. apparently because I worded my title differently (it wasnt a question), it was deemed a conspiracy theory
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12485442 - 04/30/10 07:34 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12485453 - 04/30/10 07:37 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: no there are two. i made one thread that is like 40 pages. apparently because I worded my title differently (it wasnt a question), it was deemed a conspiracy theory
lol
Thats a double standard. This thread should get moved too.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#12485470 - 04/30/10 07:41 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: no there are two. i made one thread that is like 40 pages. apparently because I worded my title differently (it wasnt a question), it was deemed a conspiracy theory
lol
Thats a double standard. This thread should get moved too.
This a place for laid back intelligent conversation. This is just that if you choose it to be. It should stay just where it is.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
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DeadHearts said:
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morrowasted said: no there are two. i made one thread that is like 40 pages. apparently because I worded my title differently (it wasnt a question), it was deemed a conspiracy theory
lol
Thats a double standard. This thread should get moved too.
This a place for laid back intelligent conversation. This is just that if you choose it to be. It should stay just where it is.
this is very laid back, i see no reason to move it. http://www.ufocasebook.com/nasaufophotos.html
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#12485511 - 04/30/10 07:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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You are not a particularly laid-back individual, d00d, but yes... the thread should stay.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#12485890 - 04/30/10 08:55 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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dumb that the other thread got moved
UFOs arent a conspiracy.
nothing is a conspiracy.
i am a conspiracy theorist theorist. i think the government makes up conspiracy theories to throw people off
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12485893 - 04/30/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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You think incorrectly...
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: deCypher]
#12485902 - 04/30/10 08:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok i didnt make that up

i do think there has been a UFO coverup though. i just hate the phrase conspiracy theory because of the negative connotations it brings along with it
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
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I do not see how this can be fake. And if it is man made then someone is hiding very advanced technology from us.
Well it could be fake. Tracking software is pretty easy to use, and making a bunch of lights float around in the air in a 3d program is pretty straight forward, I work in the CG industry and this could be (very believable) CG. I find it very hard to believe this is real. I'm not saying it isn't. But for me I would personally need to see this with my own eyes... Like the shit in the bible, don't believe it unless I see it. The camera flashes going off everywhere make it quite believable, cos you think well if I saw that thing I would be snapping away like a motherfucker.
my one major problem with this is,
That thing flew over a city, wouldn't a WHOLE lot of people be screaming about that shit, sending photos everywhere. I know I would.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Legend]
#12512320 - 05/05/10 06:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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bump
did anyone see yesterdays Ancient Aliens episode?
interesting how last week i mentioned that if aliens did exist they would be visiting earth for resources, but you all disagreed.
what a coincidence that they talked about how aliens could have been coming to earth in search of gold.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: thoughts]
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iwasaClown said: bump
did anyone see yesterdays Ancient Aliens episode?
interesting how last week i mentioned that if aliens did exist they would be visiting earth for resources, but you all disagreed.
what a coincidence that they talked about how aliens could have been coming to earth in search of gold.
i think the idea is kind of silly. they base that claim off of some very loose evidence. it's pretty much just sitchin's theory, and it's been around for a long time. aliens could be taking gold while they were here but that doesn't mean that was their primary purpose. I am 99.9% sure that you can find gold elsewhere
if they were here for the gold then why is it still here
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
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if they can travel here then their technology is clearly on a ridiculas level. why would they need gold?? certainly not chains and fronts
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#12512633 - 05/05/10 07:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Why do we need gold? We dont, we horde it because we like it for some reason. Aliens may like it too.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DieCommie]
#12512718 - 05/05/10 07:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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because gold is the most conductive metal.
they were saying how their space ships could be made of gold.
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#12512727 - 05/05/10 07:33 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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They took all the big chunks, obviously.
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if they were here for the gold then why is it still here
because its US humans that dig & mine to get the gold & they somehow took it. since we had been mining the gold at our own pace, we still have more gold to find.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: thoughts]
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sounds like BS to me
i believe there is a good chance of ancient aliens but i seriously doubt humans are a slave race for mining gold
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12512860 - 05/05/10 07:48 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, they forced humans to cut and quarry huge stone blocks and pile them up for their amusement.
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amusement? i doubt it
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
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there's a lightning storm where I am.. except there's no accompanying thunder.. and it's not raining out.
the last flash just shook the house 
and it's striking pretty much in the same spot. and it doesn't even look like lightening it's just a flash that seems to be originating from a single point. like an orb of some sort.
i'm pretty god damn convinced it's a UFO.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12514723 - 05/06/10 01:14 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#12514735 - 05/06/10 01:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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couldn't get any good ones the only camera I had was my macbook pro i tried taking a video but all that showed was flashes 
anyway, china is diclosing information rite now
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Envix]
#12514736 - 05/06/10 01:17 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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unidentified flashing object
I would have to agree with you, sir.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: morrowasted]
#12514762 - 05/06/10 01:25 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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It didn't make much sense to me.
They would of had no use for the energy as there were no electrical devices and I seriously doubt a civilisation that clearly knew practically nothing about metals could make a space craft.
If they did have all that technology then why has not even one scrap of it ever been found?
And the whole miniature plane thing, it was just a bird that's all. They just put the tail feathers the wrong way round and to say it utilizes modern flight characteristics was just BS as almost anything can fly, let alone something modeled on a bird will certainly fly.
I'm aware that UFO's are real but that show was just a load of hyped up non-sense.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Set]
#12514780 - 05/06/10 01:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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A UFO was spotted over my city last night.. Cincinnati, Ohio.
I say UFO lightly at this point because nobody knows exactly what the object was, but it's strange that these sightings are happening more and more every day.
http://www.wlwt.com/video/23456777/index.html
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#12557909 - 05/13/10 08:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: mycocozm]
#12558682 - 05/13/10 09:54 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#13026674 - 08/09/10 01:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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still no disclosure
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#13026718 - 08/09/10 01:53 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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It already happened.
The UK governments Nick Pope disclosed. The French government disclosed in the Cometa report. The head of Belgiums airforce disclosed. Loads of US military officials have come forward.
All these officials have disclosed on public TV.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#19056388 - 10/30/13 06:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Apparently still no UFO disclosure from the US government today. ;/
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#19057717 - 10/30/13 01:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
skatealex2 said: Apparently still no UFO disclosure from the US government today. ;/
What a damn shame
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Legend]
#19057739 - 10/30/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Guys Im gonna disclose some top secret shit, I AM A FUCKING ALIEN, so are you get to know yourselves a bit better
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