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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11713411 - 12/24/09 05:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Given that the topic being talked about is entirely speculative, I can't see how any of you actually believe that it's worth feigning any actual relevant knowledge which can bring anyone on the shroomery closer to the truth regarding aliens and UFO's.
It's a crazy concept which we have no method to explain the occurrence of in reality, as can be said for just about every other mysterious event which cannot / has not actually been recorded and studied. I'm not hating on speculation, just all the hating on each other in this thread caused by the speculation.
My view on the subject: If UFO's were related to actual aliens, that would be super cool. But, no video will ever stand as complete evidence to the existence of said aliens. That said, I'll be waiting hopefully for a first hand encounter, which I promise to promptly put up on youtube
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: klodeo]
#11713418 - 12/24/09 05:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have seen this and the end part is really crazy to think about. The structures were cut so precisely there is now way they could have done it back then. I think they said they predate the Egyption pyramids.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713434 - 12/24/09 05:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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We speculate and talk about this topic because it is interesting and people want to know whats out there. And people are seeing things and drawing have been made that date back thousands of years. This topic continues to be brought time and time again because if ETS are truely visiting us then it would change everything. My opinion.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11713440 - 12/24/09 05:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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dunno if i believe that they were built by aliens to be completely honest, maybe tho. think it might be more likely that there have been loads of extremely advanced civilizations in the past and that history as we know it is rubbish... never know though, could be aliens. maybe both
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: klodeo]
#11713604 - 12/24/09 06:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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either way that show was awsome to watch.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Charles]
#11713876 - 12/24/09 07:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Charles said: Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.
So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?
Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?
i think ufo's are more often than not high up in the air- and just an example of comparison, your average person probably has at best a camera phone or a small camera with them- i don't think i could ever get a good picture of an airplane with my cell phone, let alone a regular camera that doesn't have amazing zoom... only if something flew very close to me i would be able to film it in such a way that you can see it clearly....
you also might find this footage from the Mexican military interesting, this footage is from their radar when something was flying next to it...
I also believe for most people UFO's can be a seeing is believing thing.... it's easy to deny the thousands of sightings that go on through out the world every year but once you see one for yourself i don't think you can go back... and you usually know its a legit ufo when it starts doing out of the world things that makes no sense/
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: skatealex2]
#11713914 - 12/24/09 07:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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skatealex2 said:
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Charles said: Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.
So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?
Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?
i think ufo's are more often than not high up in the air- and just an example of comparison, your average person probably has at best a camera phone or a small camera with them- i don't think i could ever get a good picture of an airplane with my cell phone, let alone a regular camera that doesn't have amazing zoom... only if something flew very close to me i would be able to film it in such a way that you can see it clearly....
you also might find this footage from the Mexican military interesting, this footage is from their radar when something was flying next to it...
I also believe for most people UFO's can be a seeing is believing thing.... it's easy to deny the thousands of sightings that go on through out the world every year but once you see one for yourself i don't think you can go back... and you usually know its a legit ufo when it starts doing out of the world things that makes no sense/
It can not be denied brother.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714023 - 12/24/09 08:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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DeadHearts said: If so, how soon and how will this be done? How do you think it would change things on this planet?
There has been such an increase of UFO sightings / videos that just makes be think that something might happen soon.
Such an interesting topic 
Disclosure is definitely upon us. It will probably occur within the next 5 years or so. All the evidence I've reviewed has me believing that our reign on planet Earth is almost up. I don't think there's going to be a war but I believe we will probably have the planet taken from us. Meanwhile the only thing we'll be able to do in response is sit back and watch it happen. Basically the entities we're dealing with are lightyears ahead of us in technology. They're so advanced that they can do whatever they want and we can't do a thing to stop them.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Metatronix]
#11714091 - 12/24/09 08:53 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are some pretty clear videos/photos out there. All possible hoaxes, of course, but they make you think "what if..."
http://www.ufoevidence.org/photographs/view/topphotos.htm
More compelling are the cases of mass sightings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave
13,500 estimated sightings, as well as tracked on radar by military jets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_lights
Witnessed by hundreds, if not thousands of people (including the governor) all across Arizona.
The problem is no one really takes this stuff seriously, and the government sure won't hold any open investigations.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Tranquil Toad]
#11714226 - 12/24/09 09:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714267 - 12/24/09 09:34 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
Because if you think about human history. You see how far we have come since the first "people" came about. Our histroy has been but a speck of time compared to the whole universe or even our own planet. It is so unfathomable for me to believe that there could be no civilizations out there (even in out own galaxy) that are far far more advanced than us.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714315 - 12/24/09 09:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: All the radio waves ever generated by humans extend only 100 lightyears from Earth. That's nowhere near even the closest star. How would anyone know we're here?
Did somebody blow up Alpha Centauri? Last time I checked it was less than 5 light years away.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
#11714335 - 12/24/09 09:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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god actually shit all over that whole star and thus blocking out the light
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: jimbotron]
#11714343 - 12/24/09 09:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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jimbotron said: How would anyone know we're here?
The same way astronomers discover new planets from here on Earth. If an advanced civilization possessed interstellar travel capabilities then it probably wouldn't take them long at all to find us. They wouldn't be restricted to a single vantage point and would be able to go anywhere in the Universe to systematically scope out new planets.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714505 - 12/24/09 10:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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The alien beings visiting this planet at this time are all under what is called the "Rule of Non-Interference" with 'undeveloped' civilizations. An undeveloped civilization being one, which has not undergone it's transformation yet into a galactic society. i.e - Left their own solar system under their own power and discovered the galactic society on their own... or spiritually transcended on a global level into it. The "Global Society" simply being: The awareness of, and coexistence with other sentient intelligent beings and lifeforms in other parts of the Universe. The rule of non-interference is rule number 1 when dealing with a "sleeping" society. They are not allowed to interfere directly with our reality. This caused some problems in the past, when they would reveal themselves, and the lessons they brought us, and instead we worshiped them like gods, which was not what they wanted. And there were other incidents with some dominant races causing some other issues with enslavement of lesser evolved humanoids, so protocols for interaction had to be put in place you see. We have to learn our lessons ourselves.
All/most? civilizations recorded throughout the Universe all follow a distinct pattern of evolution. The level we are at now is the turning point for civilizations who have followed our same or similar path before. Our technology surpasses our understanding of the spiritual implications or knowledge backing it, (cloning, nuclear weapons, etc) we have destructive habits without the understanding of the full circle, and we are on a totally self-destructive path. At the same time, there is a vast new spectrum of knowledge becoming available, and connecting people in ways like never before. There is an awakening occurring on the brink of destruction. It is at this point, that civilizations usually do one of the following:
1. Collapse into war;anarchy;chaos;pollution;famine whatever and we destroy ourselves and our ability to survive on the planet. 2. Evolve into higher levels of understanding and living in harmony with ourselves and each other.
There is really not much wiggle room between the two. You either go with the flow, evolve and change to suit your environment, or it kills you, or in this case we kill ourselves. Either way, civilization as we have built it cannot last for long, it is simply not sustainable. New methods must be brought to the table, new ways of creating beneficial organic technology. New ways of restoring the planet, and each other.
This is an extremely interesting time for our planet specifically. While all planets (and the mass consciousness of the planet) undergo transitions through the dimensions, ours shift is occurring extremely rapidly. What some planets may take thousands or even millions of years to make this shift, ours is happening in about the span of over 30 years or so. We're talking exponential evolution. On an evolutionary scale that's like jumping 10 light years in a nanosecond. This is a momentous occasion throughout the galaxy, and it effects not only us but neighboring systems as well, or even a galaxy 500 billion light years away... it's all connected.
Some of them are here just to watch and observe. Taking notes, as it were. Some of them take a more direct approach and have various missions and tasks working in the background to attempt influence..
As they cannot interfere, directly in our reality, this means they cannot interact with our conscious mind. In fact they don't even exist on that wavelength, they reside permanently on what we call the subconscious/unconscious level. The 4th dimension is without ego, a loss of 'self' while still maintaining an identity, a re-connection of group identity, this is the 'state' many of them reside on. All communication is telepathic, as this is the most efficient Universal language known. As a result, all contacts occur on the subconscious level, which is why many contactees had regression before they even realized the experience.. the mind conveniently tucked it away. They simply had to remember it.
We cannot expect alien beamships to land on the white house lawn and say Hello. That's not how they roll. We're a fucked up race of beings on this planet, and things are changing, fast. But for the better, I think. They are not here to solve our problems for us... we fucked ourselves we have to unfuck ourselves. What they ARE here to do, is help guide us in the right directions once we have established ourselves as an awakened civilization. They are here to help the awakening process along, working subtly in the background.. Once the filth is washed away, real cleansing can begin. But the drain has to get unclogged first.
We are not alone in the Universe. In fact this Milky Way Galaxy alone is home to thousands of star nations, most of which are part of an alliance of nations, some call the Galactic Federation, or Federation of Light. Earth is to become a member of this Federation and become a beacon of light in the future. Earth the light ship.
So yeah there's a lot of crazy shit going down on Earth right now, it's the melting pot of the Universe, lots of crazy experiments. It's pretty much the craziest experiment the Universe has ever attempted. So it's very interesting to a lot of people. And if we pull it off, that's going in the mofucking history books.
tl;dr: So they are all already there. We just have to meet them there halfway. They've taken the first step, they are waiting for us to meet them on that middle ground. As for government disclosure of the UFO coverup, yes I think it will happen soon.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
#11714520 - 12/24/09 10:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe, but also think that they are staying away for some reason. There are cave drawings depicting alien and UFO stuff, our own native american tribes have stories of alien abductions. The MAYA and the Egyptians have UFO carvings and drawings too.
My Mom and I saw what we believed to be an alien craft silently fly across the sky after our car had stopped working for some reason and after it was out of sight the car lights turned back on and the car started just fine as if nothing was wrong. I was like 7 or 8 and my Mom was like 40 I think and we both saw the same thing.
It's funny how the same person that won't believe in UFO's or Aliens, even with video evidence yet will quickly accept that there is an all powerful God that made man from dirt and women from a rib and that there was a guy named Jesus that came back from the dead and had mystical powers.
I guess it's just all about what you wish to believe.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Morican]
#11714556 - 12/24/09 10:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Morican said:
It's funny how the same person that won't believe in UFO's or Aliens, even with video evidence yet will quickly accept that there is an all powerful God that made man from dirt and women from a rib and that there was a guy named Jesus that came back from the dead and had mystical powers.
I guess it's just all about what you wish to believe.
People seem to ignore and block out the scary things in life and welcome the good. I can understand why people don't want to believe in alien visitation. The idea is flat out terrifying. Believing in God provides a sense of comfort when it comes to death.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Shroomism]
#11714565 - 12/24/09 11:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shroomism said: The alien beings visiting this planet at this time are all under what is called the "Rule of Non-Interference" with 'undeveloped' civilizations. An undeveloped civilization being one, which has not undergone it's transformation yet into a galactic society. i.e - Left their own solar system under their own power and discovered the galactic society on their own... or spiritually transcended on a global level into it. The "Global Society" simply being: The awareness of, and coexistence with other sentient intelligent beings and lifeforms in other parts of the Universe. The rule of non-interference is rule number 1 when dealing with a "sleeping" society. They are not allowed to interfere directly with our reality. This caused some problems in the past, when they would reveal themselves, and the lessons they brought us, and instead we worshiped them like gods, which was not what they wanted. And there were other incidents with some dominant races causing some other issues with enslavement of lesser evolved humanoids, so protocols for interaction had to be put in place you see. We have to learn our lessons ourselves.
All/most? civilizations recorded throughout the Universe all follow a distinct pattern of evolution. The level we are at now is the turning point for civilizations who have followed our same or similar path before. Our technology surpasses our understanding of the spiritual implications or knowledge backing it, (cloning, nuclear weapons, etc) we have destructive habits without the understanding of the full circle, and we are on a totally self-destructive path. At the same time, there is a vast new spectrum of knowledge becoming available, and connecting people in ways like never before. There is an awakening occurring on the brink of destruction. It is at this point, that civilizations usually do one of the following:
1. Collapse into war;anarchy;chaos;pollution;famine whatever and we destroy ourselves and our ability to survive on the planet. 2. Evolve into higher levels of understanding and living in harmony with ourselves and each other.
There is really not much wiggle room between the two. You either go with the flow, evolve and change to suit your environment, or it kills you, or in this case we kill ourselves. Either way, civilization as we have built it cannot last for long, it is simply not sustainable. New methods must be brought to the table, new ways of creating beneficial organic technology. New ways of restoring the planet, and each other.
This is an extremely interesting time for our planet specifically. While all planets (and the mass consciousness of the planet) undergo transitions through the dimensions, ours shift is occurring extremely rapidly. What some planets may take thousands or even millions of years to make this shift, ours is happening in about the span of over 30 years or so. We're talking exponential evolution. On an evolutionary scale that's like jumping 10 light years in a nanosecond. This is a momentous occasion throughout the galaxy, and it effects not only us but neighboring systems as well, or even a galaxy 500 billion light years away... it's all connected.
Some of them are here just to watch and observe. Taking notes, as it were. Some of them take a more direct approach and have various missions and tasks working in the background to attempt influence..
As they cannot interfere, directly in our reality, this means they cannot interact with our conscious mind. In fact they don't even exist on that wavelength, they reside permanently on what we call the subconscious/unconscious level. The 4th dimension is without ego, a loss of 'self' while still maintaining an identity, a re-connection of group identity, this is the 'state' many of them reside on. All communication is telepathic, as this is the most efficient Universal language known. As a result, all contacts occur on the subconscious level, which is why many contactees had regression before they even realized the experience.. the mind conveniently tucked it away. They simply had to remember it.
We cannot expect alien beamships to land on the white house lawn and say Hello. That's not how they roll. We're a fucked up race of beings on this planet, and things are changing, fast. But for the better, I think. They are not here to solve our problems for us... we fucked ourselves we have to unfuck ourselves. What they ARE here to do, is help guide us in the right directions once we have established ourselves as an awakened civilization. They are here to help the awakening process along, working subtly in the background.. Once the filth is washed away, real cleansing can begin. But the drain has to get unclogged first.
We are not alone in the Universe. In fact this Milky Way Galaxy alone is home to thousands of star nations, most of which are part of an alliance of nations, some call the Galactic Federation, or Federation of Light. Earth is to become a member of this Federation and become a beacon of light in the future. Earth the light ship.
So yeah there's a lot of crazy shit going down on Earth right now, it's the melting pot of the Universe, lots of crazy experiments. It's pretty much the craziest experiment the Universe has ever attempted. So it's very interesting to a lot of people. And if we pull it off, that's going in the mofucking history books.
tl;dr: So they are all already there. We just have to meet them there halfway. They've taken the first step, they are waiting for us to meet them on that middle ground. As for government disclosure of the UFO coverup, yes I think it will happen soon.
I have read up on all of these things and i love you for posting it. I really believe this is what is going on. we can only love one another and see if we can make it through this shit storm of the norm, this straight line of living. We need to wake up as a species!
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
#11714625 - 12/24/09 11:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think we're not worth visiting. Seriously consider this. We have almost killed off most of the species again.(6th great extinction) We have raped most of our forests. Our oceans and rivers are in a sorry state.... And thousands of children die every day while we burn through the last of our fuel.
We don't deserve "visitors" and as much as I want help, I'm not so sure it should even be offered.
Of course I'm feeling a little pissy. Maybe later after Kratom I'll be talking about how cool it will be if/when I ride a spaceship.
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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#11714689 - 12/24/09 11:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Psilocybeingzz said: I think we're not worth visiting. Seriously consider this. We have almost killed off most of the species again.(6th great extinction) We have raped most of our forests. Our oceans and rivers are in a sorry state.... And thousands of children die every day while we burn through the last of our fuel.
We don't deserve "visitors" and as much as I want help, I'm not so sure it should even be offered.
If they are as advanced spiritually as they are technologically, I would imagine we would not be viewed as some hopeless planet to be left to it's own demise, but as brothers and equals in creation who are going through a very challenging process of growth. And how exciting it must be to watch the drama of Earth unfold!
I agree with Shroomism that there is probably some sort of quarantine in effect that will allow us to work through our own problems. How can we be expected to function if they just land and implant us with knowledge and technology when we do not have the maturity to process and use it wisely?
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