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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #11713146 - 12/24/09 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Likewise brah :wook:


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11713164 - 12/24/09 04:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Entropymancer said:
Likewise brah :wook:




Back at cha cheif


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Entropymancer]
    #11713165 - 12/24/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

All those things about the speed of light, time dilation etc are based on our current understanding which is also assuming that our understanding will never change.

In a thousand years time we may realize that the speed of light is not even relevant to space travel.

Try telling a guy in a log canoe 10,000 years ago that one day he will be able to fly around the world in a jet. 

Personally I think all these questions are irrelevant.  We are being presented with a world wide phenomena of UFOs.  People can keep saying they shouldn't exist or be able to get here blah blah as much as they like but its not going to make them go away.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713169 - 12/24/09 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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All those things about the speed of light, time dilation etc are based on our current understanding which is also assuming that our understanding will never change.




Exactly.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713175 - 12/24/09 04:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Try telling a guy in a log canoe 10,000 years ago that one day he will be able to fly around the world in a jet. 






They didn't change the laws of physics to invent the airplane.

Sure we will learn more and our perspectives will change, but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong. Its just incomplete and probably partially wrong.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713183 - 12/24/09 04:56 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Right, and technology that was once thought to be impossible is now used every day.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #11713189 - 12/24/09 04:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

They will very soon. I have determined this using my crystals and my psychic abilities. Also, my Coven has made a few key spells in this area. Plus, the neighbor's dog assures me it will be so.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713191 - 12/24/09 04:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah they did - have you asked the guy on the canoe how he thinks physics works :rotfl:

You seem to forget its just a theory - even Einstein himself said the theory was incomplete.

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but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.




So for aliens to visit Earth our laws of physics have to be completly wrong. :rolleyes:

and

Quote:

Personally I think all these questions are irrelevant.  We are being presented with a world wide phenomena of UFOs.  People can keep saying they shouldn't exist or be able to get here blah blah as much as they like but its not going to make them go away.




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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #11713206 - 12/24/09 05:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Over time, all manner of amazing things have been caught on film and video. Things that were million to one shots, caught and preserved forever, in focus and well lit. All without even being really prepared for.

Someone just happened to be there, have a camera, and bam, they got a beautiful shot of something amazing.

So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?

Do aliens and bigfeets give off some kind of magical energy that causes lenses to fog over and cameras to go out of focus?

Oh, and as a side note, lets not forget that they were working on some of the most advanced stealth technology in use today back in the early 70's, only to openly admit to the public that we had such capabilities in the 90's.

So what do you think the government has been doing in the nearly two decades since then?


Edited by Charles (12/24/09 05:08 PM)


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713210 - 12/24/09 05:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:

i never said it was impossible for aliens to be here. i said it was improbable and impractical

i also never said UFO's didn't exist, i said it doesn't make any sense that they would be aliens.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713224 - 12/24/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.




Explain what you mean by this then?


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713228 - 12/24/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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nice1 said:

You seem to forget its just a theory - even Einstein himself said the theory was incomplete.








incomplete yes, but that doesn't mean its just some crazy idea. a theory is something thats been tested over and over and over and over again by many different people with very accurate results


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713236 - 12/24/09 05:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

nice1 said:
Quote:

but that doesn't mean that our current physics is completely wrong.




Explain what you mean by this then?




i was replying to you saying we might discover how to travel faster than the speed of light

reread my first post. in fact i said that according to some people's current understanding of physics that interstellar travel IS POSSIBLE. Thats the FIRST thing I said.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713251 - 12/24/09 05:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

:facepalm:

I never said that.

Reread the thread please.

What I actually said was this...

Quote:

In a thousand years time we may realize that the speed of light is not even relevant to space travel.




very different to what you thought I said.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: nice1]
    #11713264 - 12/24/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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nice1 said:
:facepalm:

I never said that.

Reread the thread please.



Someone said it. but i have no desire to reread the thread, you seemingly haven't read it either. i think you are just looking for people to argue with. this one's going on hide.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713266 - 12/24/09 05:15 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Only if the "aliens" want to announce themselves to us.

If "aliens" have in fact visited, why not just land and say hello?

If an intelligent life form can manange intergalactic travel, I think avoiding a Sony video recorder would be pretty easy.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713279 - 12/24/09 05:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Would you stop editing out your mistakes please!  LOL  I should of quoted you.  :mad2:

You claimed I said we would learn to go faster than the speed of light and then edited out when you realised you were wrong.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: psilyguy]
    #11713298 - 12/24/09 05:19 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not argueing - I'm explaining why you are wrong but seems you are twisting your opinion every time I show you to make out that you are not - even going as far as to delete your mistakes.  Tut tut.


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: Charles]
    #11713371 - 12/24/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

This thread got out of hand. There will always be believers and none
believers. Until the average person experiences something they can not
explain the will always question someone who does or try and find the
most rational possibility which is fine. But you can not tell me that
all these videos poping up and worldwide sightings are just "balloons"
or "helicopters" and things like that.



"So why is it that all things ufo or cryptozoological always turn out blurry?"

Not all the video of these objects are blurry. The videos from the
space shuttles are particularly compelling. Hundreds of former officials claim they have seen these objects and are now coming fourth and want the truth from the government. Something is going on
and I wish people would just question it instead of writing it off
as nothing.


Edited by DeadHearts (12/24/09 05:32 PM)


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Re: Do you believe there will be a UFO / ET disclosure soon?? [Re: DeadHearts]
    #11713404 - 12/24/09 05:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

not 100% on what i believe on this subject to be honest, but just to throw it out there, anyone seen this documentary?



its the history channel one called 'ancient aliens', is all that chariots of the gods stuff (erich von daeniken), claiming that aliens visited earth ages ago and influenced the evolution of civilization...


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